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Tue Jul-21-09 11:33 PM
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Rick Sanchez Puts End To Obama Birth Certificate Issue |
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Sanchez on Birther Stupidity. Holds up a copy of Obama's birth certificate and says: "For a large and vocal number of Americans, this may as well be bathroom tissue." Why he thinks the number of people even remotely fixated on this issue is "large" I have no idea.
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Tue Jul-21-09 11:34 PM
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1. Prolly 'cause the corporatemedia |
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makes sure the small but loud little hand full get full attention.
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Tue Jul-21-09 11:48 PM
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2. Yep. And to the detriment of us all. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 11:49 PM by Number23
What's funny is that even the conservative radio guy Sanchez is talking doesn't buy it. Says that he won't allow callers to his show to even TALK about the birth certificate issue but yet, somehow thinks that Obama should call a press conference or tell Gibbs to go out with the birth certificate to dispel these rumors.:eyes:
Obama could tattoo his birth certificate to his behind and these stupid, racist @ssholes still wouldn't believe that it existed. So why should he or anyone in his administration acknowledge these people??
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Tue Jul-21-09 11:57 PM
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be "conservative" but he has a history of exposing rw whackjobs on msnbc.
So I'm not surprised he would go for the reality on this one, too.
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Wed Jul-22-09 12:20 AM
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6. I've often turned to Rick Sanchez when Norah O'Donnell was on MSNBC. |
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He's much less irritating and attempts to present a balanced view. He was excellent covering news about Gaza in recent months, when we heard little about this elsewhere. And he was willing to be tazered... x( ;)
Rhiannon :hi:
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:18 AM
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30. Seems there's at least two different |
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views on Rick Sanchez. He was a corporatemediawhore for a long time and then suddenly he switched and started calling some facists on their crap..but, I see the post below doesn't have any good feelings about him.
Maybe some "news" people like to mix it up to get viewers from both sides?
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Thu Jul-23-09 02:16 AM
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39. It's also possible that some DUers haven't watched him for a long time. |
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That's the way it is for me and Lou Dobbs. I used to watch him frequently, when he was speaking out against the Iraq war, even subscribed to his newsletter. Randi Rhodes once had a crush on him, LOL. But when I moved in with my BF, I got used to watching the MSNBC lineup, didn't realize that poor Lou had become completely batty until I read it here on DU. :crazy:
My turning the channel to Rick Sanchez was simply because I found Norah O'Donnell so irritating. She really sent me over the edge when she glibly announced, not that long ago, that the Israeli president was here to visit President Bush*! And I was pleasantly surprised with Rick's evenhandedness and the relevant questions that he asked. Before, I just thought that he was the idiot that agreed to be tasered... :rofl:
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Wed Jul-22-09 03:27 AM
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11. Rick Sanchez has a history of supporting fascists... |
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in Miami's cuckoo Cuban National Federation and just played kiss ass with otto reich not just a few days ago. He's a media whore who couldn't paint journalism any more yellow than he does.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:20 AM
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31. I hear ya..but, for some |
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reason he was calling out some facists on their huge crap as with the birthers.
But, I say.. fuck all mediawhores.
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Wed Jul-22-09 12:09 AM
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4. Because there are millions of racist people in this country who wont accept a black man as president |
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Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 12:13 AM by GreenTea
they'll kick and scream and refuse to believe even with absolute proof right in their face because their hate is so sick and obsessive, while the racist pigman Limbaugh fuels the fire and hate every single day on republican hate radio.
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Wed Jul-22-09 12:17 AM
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Wed Jul-22-09 12:33 PM
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32. i totally agree with that assessment and i do not want our |
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president to dignify this scurrilous trash with any kind of response. the media should be doing it and i thank rick sanchez for trying. maybe he should now talk to lou dobbs.
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:36 PM
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33. this is the issue, not his origin of birth |
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Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 01:38 PM by SemperEadem
because the very same people who are screaming the loudest would have kept their mouths shut over McCain in born in Panama.. and they sure didn't have a problem with Schwarzenegger's being born in Austria back when that special election went down.
This is about a black man being president and nothing else. They cannot stand it and their crazy is being worn on their sleeves.
Obama doesn't have to prove shit to these people. If he wasn't a citizen, there are too many governmental agencies who would have had to have colluded over the past 47 years and been able to see into the future to make it happen.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:30 PM
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35. I don't think it's 'cause he's black... |
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... but simply because he's a Democrat. THAT's the reason you didn't see hay being made out of anything regarding McCain and Arnie's birth location. Obama could have been white, Hispanic, Native American, doesn't matter; because his father was from a fur'n country -- and a Muslim one to boot, OMG!!111!!! -- and he spent time in that country during his childhood, we have to put up with this "important" opin... er, story. :eyes:
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Wed Jul-22-09 12:34 AM
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7. what Obama probably should do is publicly forgive all the folks doing this |
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Always forgive the ones who attack you - NOTHING annoys them so much!
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:06 AM
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8. Perfect 10 for Sanchez k*r |
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He treats this with the appropriate ridicule but also just shuts the door so perfectly with the birth announcement from the Honolulu paper and his great comment.
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Wed Jul-22-09 02:21 AM
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10. I agree. But, it would have been nicer if the lady from Factcheck.org had said a bit more |
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But come to think of it, from her perspective they probably feel that they've said all that they can say. She even acknowledged that at this point, her group considers the obsession over this "issue" insane.
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:42 AM
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9. Maybe some morons... I mean people... |
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don't consider Hawaii to be part of the United States, since it's land mass is not physically connected to this here U S of A. "Things that make you go"...
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:19 AM
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It's just a little vacation colony to them filled with a lot of non-whites of non European descent. Oh, no. They couldn't possibly take seriously any document coming from there.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:10 PM
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34. At least it's not Alaska!!!!! |
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Wed Jul-22-09 03:56 AM
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12. Sadly, I think the group of people known as "moron-Americans" . . . |
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Is larger than we might like to admit. Not to mention that the subclass of people known as "media whores" is also quite large when compared to the larger population of "journalists."
I agree that it would be unpresidential to respond to this now. It would also suggest Obama's running scared from the village idiot. I would not respond to this, and if anyone in the press should ask about it, give 'em a withering stare, move on to someone else, and don't call on 'em again.
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:11 AM
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13. kick and recommended even if the whole issue is insane |
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:40 AM
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14. The problem is, he hasn't put an end to it |
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And he'll never be able put an end to it.
We're still hearing JFK conspiracy theories - and the birthers are much more rabid about it.
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:42 AM
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15. Excellent (and depressing) points. |
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Thu Jul-23-09 03:59 PM
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40. That's not the problem. The problem is that we have liars who are given a platform to lie |
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And that lie gets repeated on radio, on conspiracy and RW websites, and like the little fuck on Sanchez's show said, takes on a life of it's own.
Obama can never put an end to it, and the little fuck knows it. This is classic GOP tactics. It happens every 4 years to Dem Presidential candidates, and even to lesser Dems out there who seems to be a threat at the time.
Look at the history of made up "controversies" Sandy Berger stuffed 9/11 documents into his socks. If only he'd come forward and prove us wrong, then all this would just GO AWAY! Nancy Pelosi lied about the CIA lying to her. If she'd only admit it, then all this would GO AWAY! Gary Condit raped and killed that woman. If he'd just resign and turn himself into the police and admit it, then he can put it past him and all this would GO AWAY! John Kerry shot himself to get those purple hearts. If he'd ONLY release his medical records, than this whole controversy would GO AWAY! Al Gore said he invented the internet. If he'd only apologize for saying it then this would all GO AWAY! Bill Clinton has a trail of bodies in Arkansas. Clinton (never President in front of his name) should release all of his Governor and Presidential schedules, proving he was nowhere near the crime scenes, and this whole controversy would just GO AWAY! The list is longer than I can remember.
Obama can't put an end to it and he shouldn't have to. If I pull something out of my ass and accuse you of of that something, the onus is not on you to prove me wrong. The onus is on me to prove I have the facts on my side. The argument that Obama just has to capitulate and bow down to the demands of the accuser who just pulled something out of his ass is giving them credence at best and worst, giving in to extreme extortion. Which only tells them that pulling lies out of your ass has benefits.
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Wed Jul-22-09 05:30 AM
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addressed this too. There's legislation by republicans now to require future presidents to show their birth certificate..Bill Posey is the sponsor. Chris calls them nutjobs...appeasing the nutcases..wacko wing...paranoid. Playing to the crazies..lol Birthers bring down republican base http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#32056026
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Wed Jul-22-09 05:54 AM
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17. Thats a good thing.... :) |
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They deserve to drown together.
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Wed Jul-22-09 06:44 AM
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I liked the last part where Chris says so those wackos in John Campbell's district of California don't vote for him because he fundamentally disagrees with you.. Chris got him to say that he believes Obama is a native born American. The light on these people is great and proves their ignorance on issues and their bigotry.
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Wed Jul-22-09 05:59 AM
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18. Anything that makes reich wing morans |
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froth at the mouth is OK with me. Is this the result of Reagan closing insane asylums in the 80s? Really, these nuts should be sterilized.
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Wed Jul-22-09 06:33 AM
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19. I'm sure they'll all have a change of heart |
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when the Groper throws his Alpine hat in the ring.
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Wed Jul-22-09 06:46 AM
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21. Newest Conspiracy Theory---Bush was Competent |
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Try and EVER prove that one..............
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Wed Jul-22-09 06:53 AM
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22. I love it.....- Republican Congressman thinking - my political base are a bunch of crazies... |
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What a bunch of lunatics.
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Wed Jul-22-09 07:40 AM
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Do this exact story on Faux News. That's what the nut jobs watch. But the propaganda wing of the Republican Party wouldn't do that...
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Wed Jul-22-09 08:10 AM
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24. I'd like to see Campbell Brown call out Lou Dobbs for fuelling this shit. |
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Wed Jul-22-09 08:12 AM
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25. The republicans make up their own "facts" |
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They make up whatever they want and then consider it to be a fact. They've done this with: Global Warming, Evolution, Peak Oil, Iraq, ...
What a bunch of ignorant losers!
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:08 PM
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37. You could put it that way. |
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You could also say that Republicans deny the existence of facts and claim everything's a matter of opinion, and that this is connected to their anti-intellectualism. I wonder if these dicks tried to tell their arithmetic teachers in grade school that they were wrong to penalize them for wrong answers, that everyone's entitled to their opinion about what the sum of two numbers is, and who are you to tell me that two plus two doesn't equal five just because you have some fancy college degree and I'm just a kid?
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Wed Jul-22-09 08:54 AM
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26. Shows We Have a Lot of Dazed Fruitbaskets in America |
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And these fruitbaskets are the same ones who believed hook, line and sinker that George Dubya Bush did NOT go AWOL from his national guard duty, despite the many witnesses. (Some of them believe to this day that he was a war hero, not the draft-dodger he actually was.)
Just shows the GOP fruitbaskets create their own reality.
It is America that suffers.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:03 AM
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27. I love the Pug there...like anyone should give these birfers any second notice. |
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They've been told that they are barking up the wrong tree about fifty fucking times by people that have no reason to lie...but they continue to bark.
You don't cave in to stupid and crazy pseudo-nationalistic racists.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:03 AM
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28. The birther issue is so ludicrous that mediaphiles must defend their credentials |
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by speaking out against the insanity of the insane.
Lou Dobbs has demolished his credibility. Liz Cheney is psycho, ditto for Limbaugh. Who's next to betray their stupidity?
No way in hell should Obama defend his birth certificate.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:03 PM
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36. Since when do Refascists care about Constitutionality? |
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If they care about the birth requirements in the Constitution, why not Habeas Corpus?
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Thu Jul-23-09 12:41 AM
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38. this is one of the most concise responses to this insanity - assembled in a simple video |
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Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 12:42 AM by Douglas Carpenter
I would actually recommend people sending this around.
The fact that Mr. Sanchez has generally been a conservative, at least one of his two guest who in spite of some nonsense agreed the whole birth certificate business is nutty and that the Congressman's town hall meeting was a Republican Congressman who also openly states that President Obama is a U.S. citizen only adds strength to this presentation.
The crazies hijacking a Republican Congressman's town hall meeting - might even be rather eye opening about the realities of where grassroots Republican activist are coming from
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