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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:29 PM
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Fox News: Horrific effects of antidepressants/psychotic drugs
 
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Breggin says the field of psychiatry long ago sold out to the drug industry.

I would add that the consequences of having industry shills running the Food & Drug Administration for the last 30 or 40 years shouldn't be surprising to anyone. And Obama's new pick to head up the FDA is Michael Taylor, a former Monsanto executive and lobbyist, so it looks like business as usual. I don't see how any real change is ever going to take place in healthcare without reforming the pharmaceutical industry first, because that's such a major part of healthcare in this country. Hope and change isn't going to happen with slimeballs like Michael Taylor running things.


The connection between psychotic drugs and mass shootings, suicide (ABC, Fox, CBC):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE

Psychotic drugs = Zoloft, Paxil, Xanax, Wellbutrin, Prozac, Cymbalta, to name a few.
These are common prescription drugs heavily advertised to consumers on television, magazines, etc.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:32 PM
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1. No, thanks. Fixed News will never be an authority source for me for any information.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:36 PM
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2. Most of the major networks have done similar reporting on these drugs
ABC, Fox, CBC, CNN, etc.

The connection between psychotic drugs and mass shootings, suicide :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:41 PM
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3. Breggin interview, part 2
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJNMBr2zRX8&feature=related
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:43 PM
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4. I think the word you want is psychoactive, not psychotic.
Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 02:44 PM by MineralMan
Of the drugs you mentioned, all are psychoactive. None are antipsychotics. One is prescribed for anxiety. The rest are prescribed for depression and bipolar disorders.

I'm not sure what your point might be, but your terminology sucks. All of those medications can be lifesavers when prescribed appropriately.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:50 PM
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6. The key word is 'can' be a lifesaver
There's a small chance that having a gun in your house can be a lifesaver too if someone breaks in and tries to attack you in your home. But as studies have overwhelmingly shown, people are far more likely to use the gun on themselves or a loved one then they are on an assailant.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:59 PM
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10. It's not a small chance with these medications.
They are extremely useful for those disorders. Knowing a person with bipolar disorder very, very well, I know that it took some time to find the particular medication which was effective for her. Once that was found, she is always without any symptoms.

These medications are poorly prescribed by many physicians. It's not the medication, it's the application. Misused or used for someone who needs a different medication, they can be dangerous, of course. So can heparin or even aspirin.

The problem is not the drugs. It is how they are prescribed. That's why, if you have a psychiatric disorder, your relationship with your physician is critical. It takes time to figure out the appropriate medication(s) and dosage(s) for your particular chemical imbalance. In the meantime, careful monitoring is needed.

Don't condemn the meds, themselves. All are very useful. All can be misused.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:55 PM
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9. These are in fact psychotic drugs
any mind-altering drug that causes a chemical, psychiatric reaction in the brain can be called a psychotic drug.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:17 PM
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13. There is no such thing as a "psychotic" drug. Only people can be psychotic.
And the rest of your sentence is just wrong. The drugs that you named are not mind-altering which generally means "hallucinogenic".
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:34 PM
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16. Waste of time, I think.
I think this OP is a "true believer."
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:02 PM
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18. 'True believers' are those who think the intentions of big pharma
Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 04:15 PM by rollingrock
are nothing but good. True believers are the doctors and their patients who hand out these highly potent, powerful drugs to their young children and teens as if they were candy.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:49 PM
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25. Yep.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:10 PM
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19. They are mind-altering indeed
Edited on Sat Jul-25-09 04:16 PM by rollingrock
By definition, depression is a state of mind and state of emotion, and emotions are obviously controlled by the brain. In order to alleviate bad emotion, or depression, by definition these drugs must chemically alter the brain. That's the industry's own definition, not mine. How the heck do you think these drugs work then, if not on the mind? To say they're not mind-altering is just sheer ignorance.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:48 PM
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5. Is this guy a Scientologist? n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:51 PM
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7. That was my thought! nt
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 02:54 PM
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8. No
he's a psychiatrist and Harvard-trained MD.
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:13 PM
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12. So Scientology doesn't accept Harvard grads?
Actually, according to Wikipedia, he worked with the Church of Scientology in the 1970s and his wife is a former member.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Breggin

He claims they are no longer involved, but a Google search reveals many people who question that claim. Whoever is right, they seem to be pursuing the same agenda.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:59 PM
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17. Nice smear job
So anyone who dares to criticize these drugs is a Scientologist? That's rich.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:09 PM
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11. It galls me to agree with anything seen on Faux News.
I do agree that the advertising of drugs is reprehensible and that drugs are overprescribed. I have been clinically depressed, though, and function much better on a low maintenance dose antidepressant, so is that hypocritical?

On a purely visceral level I dislike this guy's smarmy condescending voice and would not choose him as my psychiatrist.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:24 PM
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14. Scientologist crackpot. n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:19 PM
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20. Nice, ignorant, knee-jerk judgment.
It's such a good thing that "progressives" are much more deep thinking than conservatives.

:wtf:
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 06:28 PM
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24. This guy has ties to Scientology.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 08:18 PM
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26. As I said, nice igorant knee-jerk dismissal. Which is what YOU deserve.
Typical tactics of the RW... don't respond to the content... don't respond to the information presented.

Just a personal smear, and a judgement.

You've learned it well.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 11:44 PM
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27. Get over yourself.
I had no idea dismissing quacks was a RW thing..... an example of his quackery:

"Permitting children to have sex among themselves would go
a long way toward liberating them from oppressive parental
authority."-Peter Breggin, M.D., in his book "The Psychology of Freedom"
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 04:26 PM
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21. I guess the European Union must be filled with Scientologists too
December 10, 2003 - The UK banned the use of all SSRI antidepressant drugs (except Prozac) for children and teens. The banned drugs were Paxil, Effexor, Zoloft, Celexa and Lexapro. Prozac was subsequently added to the ban in April, 2005 by the European Medicines Agency.

and so are all the reporters on ABC, CNN, and CBS, stations whom have all done highly critical exposes on these psychotic drugs.

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 03:31 PM
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15. FAUX Noize is admitting that pharmaceuticals are bad?
OK, who at the drug companies pissed off old Rupert? :evilgrin:

(always entertaining when these bastards turn on their own)
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:13 PM
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22. Some things are too shocking for even the MSM to ignore
Congressman Henry Waxman on SSRIs: 'This is about money, this is not about science...The pharmaceutical industry has systemically mislead physicians and patients.'
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-25-09 05:50 PM
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23. This reeks of scientology blanket condemnation of psychiatry...
I'm not saying scientology is behind it, but anybody who generalizes and condemns the entire field of psychiatry fails to recognize the immense good that is accomplished along with the few "horror" stories.

Scientology is a master of anti-psychiatry PR, a profession they blame for the Holocaust, and I wouldn't be surprised to find out some of their efforts contributed to this report.
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