Gates/Crowley Dispatch Audio Released

[masuki bance]

Run time: 01:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0qfWsDTmVY   Posted on YouTube: July 27, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: July 27, 2009 By DU Member: masuki bance Views on DU: 1297

 

[MADem]

1. "Uncooperative gentleman says he resides here?"

"Step out on the porch" was probably met by "I don't THINK so, this is MY house" and that made him "uncooperative."

[Better Believe It]

2. I would have stepped out on the porch. No problem. What would you have done?

In fact, I've had to do that before and had cuffs put on me until the cops figured what was actually going on in a disturbance.

[frylock]

5. i would have exercised my rights..

that's how i do. evidently, not you so much.

[Better Believe It]

6. You didn't answer the question. What would you have done?

See how far you could push him, a battle of wills and words perhaps?

What would you have done as a street smart person?

[frylock]

10. i'm very anti-authoritarian..

and i have been a little confrontational with more than one peace officer while being harrassed for no good reason.

[Mark Stottlemyer]

14. You would have exercised your rights?

If I was the responding officer (responding to a reported burglary in progress) and upon arrival I located a person in the residence (whether they were white, black, brown, yellow, green, or multi-colored) I would absolutely be requesting they step out on the front porch and to provide me with identification that they did in fact live in the residence as so claimed. If you want to exercise some "right" against authority at the point and refuse, then as the officer I would show you it would be my lawful "right" to place you under arrest for obstruction of justice (a misdemeanor offense for interfering with an officers investigation). At least Gates in this case used better judgment then Frylock would have by eventually complying with the officers request - albeit with being somewhat confrontational toward the officer.
Gates should have used his intellect a little more in this case and less playing of the race card. And what color he is would make ZERO difference to me as an officer if i was the one responding. A white homeowner in the same circumstance would be asked to do the same things Gates was asked.
In fact, when I was moving out of a house I had been leasing recently, the home alarm went off. The neighbors, thinking I had already vacated the house called the police thinking it may be a break-in. They arrived and came inside and needed to see I.D. or proof that it was my house. This was not a please if you don't mind kinda request....it was do it so we know you're not the bad guy. I obliged them . They followed me to a back bedroom to get my wallet , watching me ever so closely (yes, even though I was white they had to be careful, and keep officer safety priority number one until I had in fact provided my I.D., which of course I did).
In my case, when I showed the I.D. to the officers they said "Ok, very good, thanks"...and I replied,,,"No problem...I appreciate you guys checking out my alarm". Isn't that how the Gates case SHOULD have ended? I can only imagine what would or could have transpired had I flown off the handle at the cops for having the audacity to question me about what I was doing in my OWN home? No matter what my color would have been (and it is white) I can see how that kind of response could quickly go bad for all involved.

[jjewell]

11. I would have invited the cop inside of MY home,

and showed him my ID, or let him remain on MY porch while he talked to me from there, and handed him my ID, but I would NOT have stepped outside, nor would I have meekly allowed myself to handcuffed for nothing, having broken no laws, inside MY OWN HOME.

[LiberalMuslim]

3. Can I just say...

I absolutely love Mass. accent! 'Keep the caaaars coming'

[ejpoeta]

4. uggh. just.... uggh.

[bjobotts]

7. I resent anyone thinking they have the right to put cuffs on me, especially in my own home.

[bjobotts]

8. Unless you are being arrested they should not put cuffs on you. I would become

extremely angry and belligerent. I don't care how they try to justify it...it's wrong and insulting and dehumanizing. Who the hell do they think they are. No arrest...no cuffs. They would put cuffs on everyone if they had their way and then make you kiss their ass to get out of 'em. Cops used to be citizens too not para military groups of authoritarians who think they are above the citizens they 'work for'. I would rather they held me at gun point till they determine if they want to arrest me than put me in cuffs making me helpless and subservient. I mean what if a crashing passenger jet suddenly came falling out of the sky..parts flying everywhere...I could not even put my hands up to protect being hit.

They don't have the right in my eyes to cuff me unless they are arresting me.

[Better Believe It]

9. In what city or nation do these mythical cops exist?

I don't like most cops. They behave badly, white, black, Latino, women or men. Makes no difference.

Let's get back to the real world.

A street smart person who hasn't violated any laws does not provoke the cops.

Now mass demonstrations, strikes and other big actions is a whole different story. We don't provoke, and we don't let ourselves be set up by provacateurs but we do exercise our rights.

[jjewell]

12. A street smart person who hasn't violated any laws

realizes that "his home is his castle", and doesn't automatically kowtow to demands to leave the privacy of his OWN HOME simply because someone with a badge and a gun tells him to. A street smart person who hasn't violated any laws knows that "please step outside" is the setup and trap for a "public disturbance" rap.

[Better Believe It]

15. And this street smart person has only been arrested in demonstrations

and was not stupid enough to needlessly provoke cops just to make me feel good and get my rocks off.

How about you?

[whistler162]

13. Especially after getting a report of a

possible break in and a forced door!

The officer should know from his handy dandy street and face book exactly who lives there without verifying any id!:sarcasm: