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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:36 PM
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Henry Gates Jr. 911 Tape released from Cambridge Police Department (Subtitled)
 
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"Two Gentlemen... with suitcases" "I think that one is Hispanic, I cannot see the other."
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:44 PM
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1. You know, I think that this really shows how poorly
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 02:45 PM by madaboutharry
the police handled this entire incident. The woman said at least three times that the men could very well live in that house.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:53 PM
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2. Crowley did a bad job on this call.
There aren't any two ways about it.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:59 PM
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4. Apparently someone from the 911 dispatch "summarized" the call
saying there were two black men..

I think that the bottom line is that both over reacted.

Of course, if I were coming home after a long flight from China with probably not much sleep and then not being able to enter my own house, I would be irritated at the world, too.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:07 PM
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6. Bull! Gates was in his own house. It's impossible that he over-reacted. All the
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 03:08 PM by Kahuna
cop had to do was look around and see that there were pictures of Gates in the house. I'm sure there were picture in there. The cop was just being a jerk because he could be.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:43 PM
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11. THANK-YOU!!!
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 03:44 PM by SkyDaddy7
It is nice to see some people fully understand that in America one has every right to be pissed off at a cop in your house, PERIOD! Especially, when the cop knew there was no crime and the house was in fact gates home! What Gates was saying to the cop really does not matter at all once the cop knew it was his house! Plus, this cop was suppose to understand racial profiling and should have known why a elderly African American Man would be upset with cops in his house!

The cop wanted the last word as they always do! It is extremely hard today to find a true professional "Police Officer"...Just "cops"!

I can understand those on the right who simply hate African Americans and anything they do is wrong but to see so many people here on DU defending the cops in this case really surprised me!
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Stellar Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:10 PM
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13. I was watching Andrea Mitchell's show today
and a reporter was telling Mitchell that at one point in the call you could hear Srg. Crawley saying to keep the 'units' coming, *AFTER* Crawley had reported that "the individual had given the ID that says he is Henry Louis Gates Jr."

I bet the President knew as much when he used the term 'stupidly' when referring to the policeman. He can pick up the phone and get all the info he needs as POTUS.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:09 PM
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8. Apparently? Where do you get that information.
Crowley is the only one that appears to refer to two black men and he attributes that to talking to the complaining witness, Whalen, when he arrived on the scene. She denies she talked to him.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6161559

Where are you getting your information.

BTW - citizen Gates has no duty to the police, Policeman Crowley has a duty to Citizen Gates.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6150586&mesg_id=6152508
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:33 PM
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16. Here
n an interview last night, Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert C. Haas said it was accurate that Whalen did not mention race in her 911 call. He acknowledged that a police report of the incident did include a race reference. The report says Whalen observed “what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the front porch’’ of a Ware Street home on July 16.

That reference is there, said Haas, because the police report is a summary. Its descriptions - like the race of the two men - were collected during the inquiry, not necessarily from the initial 911 call, he said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/27/gates_caller_didnt_cite_race_police_say/

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:50 PM
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19. And read what I provided you
Whalen denies talking to Crowley.

Go read the article and Whalen's resent public statement at the link I provided to you.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 05:14 PM
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20. You asked from where I got the information
that the police "summarized" the call and I provided the link and the paragraph. This can explain why Crowley used the "black men" description if it was part of the summary. For someone to flame it by saying that "Crowley lied" - that's just the typical exaggeration and flaming on DU.

We both agree that Whalen did not say there were "black men" in her call.

I was not there, you were not there. You can speculate how Crowley should have reacted but this is just that: speculations.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 05:24 PM
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21. The police summarized was the defense of Crowley's report
not any reference to what the 911 dispatchers told Crowley.

It is you that is speculating and distorting things
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:24 PM
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10. Especially if you had to use a cane at the age of 58 -- and had
suitcases to deal with. A cane, the suitcases, the long trip, the airport (a nightmare in itself). You feel dirty. You just want a shower. And then you can't get the door open without ruining the screen. I would have been very irritable today. Now what is Officer Crowley's excuse. Or is he always that easily ticked off?
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 06:52 PM
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22. The dispatcher told the officer "unkown on the race, or one may be hispanic, not sure".
Edited on Mon Jul-27-09 06:58 PM by JTFrog
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 02:58 PM
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3. Talk about a nosy neighbor
She gave a play by play description of every move the two men made. And if she thought they might live there why even call in the first place?
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:08 PM
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7. Because her neighbor wanted her to call
She said she wouldn't have even noticed anything if the upset neighbor hadn't pointed it out.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:06 PM
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5. Too bad she helped out the old neighbor
Made her life into a living hell for a week or so there. Last time she does that, I'm sure.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:09 PM
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9. The 911 Operator
didn't sound too swift and sounded a bit rude, IMHO.
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 03:54 PM
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12. I agree with you, and...
...what difference does it make to dispatchers if someone is black, white or Hispanic? To even ask that sounds to me like each race will be "handled" differently.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:30 PM
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15. For identification, not discrimination.
...what difference does it make to dispatchers if someone is black, white or Hispanic?
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:39 PM
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18. Having two cops in my family, I wouldn't be so certain it was
for identification. Not after the stories I've heard them tell.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:21 PM
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14. this woman sounds like she knows it's a borderline call she's making.
I seriously wonder how 911 dispatcher sends this across to field units. Does he say, "Investigate a possible break in"? Does he mention anything about ethnicity? It is curious.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 04:35 PM
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17. so did she see it or not?
She says at the beginning that the OTHER woman saw it and told her, then she describes seeing it herself. At least that's the way it came across to me.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-27-09 07:01 PM
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23. "She's a concerned neighbor, i guess.."
Helpful people are a nuisance.
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