Maxine Waters sounds off about Blue Dogs...says Rahm recruited them.

[madfloridian]

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Here is more from Daily Kos.

Maxine Waters says Rahm's Blue Dogs chickens have come home to roost

Waters stated the following in an angry tone:

1. Emmanuel, when in Congress recruited conservatives to run as Democrats, and promised them that they would not be strong armed into voting with the caucus. Now "those chickens are coming home to roost."

2. Giant blocks of population in these Blue Dog districts are impoverished and are clearly "not being represented by their Congressmen."

In response to a question about whether the Blue Dogs should be primaried, Waters stated:

1. She didn't want to make empty threats on things she could not deliver, but she wanted to get the message out about what Blue Dogs are doing so that someone in their district gets angry and motivated to run in a primary.

In response to a question about the Senate Finance Committee bill, she stated that:

1. The progressive caucus wanted a single payer plan, and that the progressive caucus has compromised enough.

2. The SFC plan is unacceptable.

3. She is regularly meeting with the progressive caucus, the black caucus, and the tri-caucus to stategize against the Blue Dogs and keep a robust public option.

The Blue Dogs were given blanket permission to screw us by the WH CoS.

That same person lost us a house seat here in Florida by kicking a good real Democrat out of the race and recruiting a millionaire Republican to appeal to the fundamentalist groups. He had two affairs and the seat went Republican again. Kudos to Dave Lutrin, the good Democrat who posted here and told me he might run again. They dried up his funding, even the teachers union turned on him because of the DCCC pressure.

Go Maxine.

Here is an article about more of the DCCC's shenanigans in recruiting wealth conservatives to run as Democrats. It is by Matt Renner at Truthout. Read it all. From 2007

Special Report: Democratic House Officials Recruited Wealthy Conservatives

How Emanuel came to his decisions about which candidates to support against Democratic opponents is known only to Emanuel and his staff. Emanuel declined direct comment on this story. But an examination of individual races reveals a pattern of financial and political support for wealthy conservative candidates and an assault on their grassroots-supported opponents who were running on platforms that included a full withdrawal of US forces from Iraq.

Here is only one example from the article, a candidate we donated to and supported through DFA, one who helped build up grassroots Democrats in that area of IL.

A well-documented instance of interference by the DCCC during a Democratic primary occurred during the contest between Christine Cegelis and Tammy Duckworth. Cegelis, a strong proponent of withdrawal from Iraq, encountered unexpected and effective opposition from the DCCC.

Cegelis challenged former 16-term Republican Congressman Henry Hyde in 2004. An information technology specialist, Cegelis had no previous experience in politics, but decided to face off against an entrenched incumbent Republican. Her 2004 campaign, run on a meager budget with mostly volunteer staff, was able to create a tightly knit grassroots infrastructure in the Illinois 6th Congressional District. In 2004, Cegelis received just over 44 percent of the vote. The 82- year-old Hyde decided to retire rather than face another reelection campaign in 2006. This seat became a top target for the Democratic leaders and a microcosm of a much larger battle for the future of the Democratic Party.

Emanuel, himself a congressman from the neighboring 5th District of Illinois, apparently tried to recruit six different candidates to run against Cegelis. According to Kevin Spidel, campaign manager for the Cegelis campaign, all of Emanuel's attempts failed because the potential candidates "all said 'hell no!' They knew the resentment they would face. If you were in the district, you knew how much Cegelis was loved. She built her own machine."

Eventually, Emanuel found a candidate who lived just outside the district, Tammy Duckworth. Duckworth, a helicopter pilot who was severely injured in combat in Iraq, was convinced to run against Cegelis by Emanuel and two Democratic heavyweights, Illinois Senators Dick Durbin and Barack Obama.

[Buzz Clik]

1. Ah, politics in America.

Just keep talking and let the voters sort it out.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

2. I suspected Rahm was behind

many of the turnabouts in this administration. Being the presidents closest adviser and confidant though what can a person say?

Rahm needs to go!


Sooner rather than later!

[madfloridian]

12. He is not one of my favorite people.

[truedelphi]

15. About removing or keeping Rahm -- You are missing the point here -

This nation is a Banana Republic. Without the bananas, but with plenty of chimps.

Obama's electoral results would have been swept under the carpet if he hadn't made a deal. And Rahm was part of the deal.

The Democrats that are allowed anywhere near the power are nothing but Gatekeepers, and Corporate lackeys. Look at how Di Fi made sure that Angelides was the one running against Schwarzenegger. The people's choice to run against Ahnold was Westly - he was articulate and had some charisma, something needed if you are taking on a Hollywood star. But Angelides was a fish out of water, when pushed into a spot requiring he have some demonstrable something - and of course he lost. Thanks Di!

Look at who Rahm went and supported in 2006 in FLorida, from madfloridian's past posts:

http://tinyurl.com/l6pjc2

Mahoney was a Republican who put a D after his name. Think about that.

And who is it that Obama says he wants to deal with the most after the Victory that came to him from an electorate who has 40% of its people voting more or less independent of the Big Two Parties? Does he seek out the progressives? Does he seek out the fiscally conservative?

No, he seeks out the Old Guard, Corrupt as Hell, Repuglicans.

Thus he installs Geithner and Bernanke. And thus we have Geithner and Bernanke looting our economy. Well it is past tense looting - over the weekend the new Big Lie Meme came out. The Meme that replaces "Weapons of Mass Destruction."

This Meme says the "Recession is over" and the Real People are back in the Pink, swinging deals and having fun on Wall Street.

Never mind that the people that made this limited recovery possible won't have anything resembling our former lives for the next twenty years, and should hyper inflation hit in two or three years, we won't have that then. Instead, we may well be facing empty shelves, if there even are stores open.

And why is this Big Lie being told? Watch Corporate TV for two hours,not the cable channels, but the channels that run the news. You'll see that every other commercial is for credit cards.

Think about that. At a point in time when most people cannot add another credit card to their account, every ad is for Credit Cards? Why is this advertising dollar being spent?

These ads exist precisely because this advertising dollar ensures that the card issuers - Chase, Bank of America, Citi etc can control the news. Why would M$M news come out for the recovery that is for Wall Street only at the expense of Main Street, thus risking alienating most of its viewers, unless the ad money paid them to?

[madfloridian]

17. Nice rant, lot of good points.

[truedelphi]

19. Well some of the credit, in termsof my education

Must be passed over to you.

You have offered a wealth of information. And that info has helped open my eyes.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

22. huh?

[DeSwiss]

23. Excellent points and observations. n/t

[followthemoney]

57. Rahm and Obama are cut from the same cloth.

Rahm pushed aside anti-war Cynthia Cegalis in Illinois and Obama pushed aside anti-war Ned Lamont in Connecticut despite their strong showings. What is wrong with these dumb ass Democrats?

300,000 Dumb Ass Democrats voted for Bush in Florida in 2000. If all 300,000 Dumb Ass Democrats voted for Nader instead of Bush in Florida the victory for Gore in 2000 could never even have been questioned. Gore would have had a nearly 300,000 lead over Bush. Gore would have been president in 2000. Think what it costs to keep Bush and Reagan voters in the party. It is not worth it.

All you Dumb Ass Democrats make this party weak and divided. Trying to keep you in is keeping real Democrats out.

What does it matter if someone has a D by their name if they vote for Republicans and vote like Republicans?

[truedelphi]

61. What people's love for Obama shows is how skillful he is

At Public Relations.

I find it philosophically impossible to approve of someone if their policies are shitty and if those they associate with are creeps. Obama refers to Tim geithner as being his "good buddy." He and Michelle are friends with Rahm.

This means a grat deal to me. It means that no matter how personable and likeable Obama "appears to be" on the boob tube, I don't trust a thing he says. My nation is being sold out from under me, precisely because of his appointments, and the fact that he is charismatic is not going to help one bit when Hyper inflation finally hits (in anywhere from six months to three years.)

And the health care reform scam going down as I type is just that - a scam. Soon everyone will realize that all this "reform" offers is the mandate requiring us to purchase a defective product from the bloated Insurance Industry. It will be set up so that the expensive premiums will ensure, not your health or my health, but the continual army of lobbysists that will stop any meaningful reform from happening over the next twenty years.

[DaLittle Kitty]

28. Yeah, Rahm CROSSED OFF The Names Of Candidates Like John Russell and Bob Bowman In 2006!

Russell was invited to the 2006 Congressional Boot Camp sponsored by AFSCME and New House PAC. These two from Florida are TRUE Progressive/populist candidates... www.johnrussellforcongress.com John was one of 18 Candidates hand picked from across the Nation... Then Rahm got a hold of the list and put up all these fucking REPUBLICRATS... So now you got yerself this piece of shit bunch of assholes there to obstruct wherever and whenever necessary. Just a bunch of Fascist politicians no matter their "side" of the aisle (sic)! Will somebody run against these POS's in the primary and get rid of their sorry asses... PLEASE!!! :nuke:

[madfloridian]

29. And Jan Scheider as well as Dave Lutrin.

He handpicked nearly every Florida race.

[ChiciB1]

44. Yeah & Look How Well THAT One Worked Out!!! Instead This Place

went on to re-elect a man who has something close 15 lawsuits against him , EVEN at this time, and THAT knowledge was known BEFORE the FIRST ELECTION.

They picked Christine Jennings in 2006 and screwed Schneider, then Jennings loses by some weird CRAP that went on where 18,500 votes must have gone floating in the bay! So 2008 comes around and THEY (Rahm and the rest) just left Jennings hanging in the wind!!!

The best DEE-MOCK-CRAZY money can BUY!!! What a crock!!!!

[DaLittle Kitty]

62. This IS Our "Corporatist" Dem Party! Hardly Discernable From The Repubs! Watch The Health Care,

That will determine where things go... Rahm is a remnant of the 1930's! (?)

[muryan]

39. Rahm's job was to get the majority back

You surprised that he decided to run some conservative candidates? 2006 and 2008 gains in the house are in large part to his recruiting efforts. If you don't like it, fine. You have the ability to work your district for the candidate of your choice so next time it makes it a little harder for the national party to ignore progressives.

[PatrynXX]

33. Would not think it wise to remove Rahm

unless we want Palin in 2012. o_O

What one needs to do is vote the blue dogs out or make enough shit fly that makes the blue dogs think their jobs are in danger. (should I be saying Number 2 here since we are mentioning dogs??)

[loudsue]

3. Yay for Maxine Waters!! Remind people about the TRUTH of what happened.

Rahm Emmanuel is a hemmoroid on the Dem party's ass, and should have been removed a long time ago.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

4. I have never

liked nor trusted Rahm Emanuel. There's something inherently sleazy about him.

K&R for Maxine.

[Fedja]

35. That's why I like him.

He seems more honest about being a politician than most.

[howmad1]

58. Oh, wow: by that logic.........

....you must have been wildly, madly, passionately in love with George W. Bush.

[Fedja]

60. Nah

I like Rahm as a person, you see. While I may not agree with his positions, I like what I perceive as an honest and abrasive demeanor. Bush was a half-a-twit and a dishonest one at that.

You need to get your rabies under control, the world isn't black and white. I actually like some people I disagree with and vice versa, dislike some people I agree with.

[tooeyeten]

47. there absolutely is

if he stays, the President needs to get another voice in the WH to counter this nut.

[bkkyosemite]

5. I am very tired and called all on the Energy and Commerce Committee telling them if they don't vote

in the Single Payer amendment that they would be voted out. Then I see this YouTube of Maxine Waters and what she has to say. Out with that ganster Ralm!!!

I called her office and said I heard that Ralm pulled in some conservatives and the guy said yes he did with a very definite tone.

I told him that I advocate Single Payer and that calling yesterday and being so angry I thought it was the right thing to call Maxine and tell her I appreciate her for her honesty and her support for SP and I told him to give her a hug of appreciation for me. He said he would and I said goodbye.

I also listened on MSNBC to an interview with Obama's Domestic Adviser. She was asked specifically about the Finance Committee taking out the public option. She went on this discourse about how wonderful it was for the bipartianship that is happening. That she had been in Washington a long time and never saw this wonderful thing and SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE QUESTION ASKED ABOUT DUMPING THE PUBLIC OPTION.

Boy I am down in the dumps this morning.

[bkkyosemite]

9. Just emailed the WH and told the President that Ralm needs to be fired and that Single Payer is the

only fair and equitable way to help all the people with healthcare and said to hell with the Blue Dogs.

[truedelphi]

16. Good to know there is still someone whose office we can call

And express our views.

I think I will replace the WH line with Maxine Waters' line. Last tiime I called the WH, I was put on hold for ever, and then when I said I wanted Single Payer and Single Payer only, I was laughed etc.

[LaPera]

6. The fucking corporate DLC - When will people understand who these fucks are?

Driven by & supporting corporate fucks...from the Clinton's to Ralm Emanuel to Carville to Obama...

Yes, they have some democratic ideology, but it's always corporations first, as we seen with the banks, the military & it's corporate demand for wars to continue AND we'll see it with health care - in the end there will be no public option...

These same DLC assholes like Emanuel wanted to take over Howard Dean and the DNC in 2007 - to completely control the democratic party with DLC candidates for the upcoming presidential race.

Back in 2006 Emanuel screamed at the great Howard Dean to give more support & DNC money to the DLC candidates, these same moderate blue dogs (republicans except in name) that will sabotage any true liberal ideology in the democratic party.....

Dean instead told Emanuel and DLC to basically, go fuck themselves. Dean told Emanuel that he & the DNC were going to stay with Dean's 50 state strategy, (and thanks to Dean the democrats won back congress in 2006)- and that same 50 state strategy was used again in 2008.

We here at DU all knew about the fucking corporate DLC for years. Now they are in power and we are stuck with them and the new corporate democratic party, more than likely forever.....Corporate money talks!

[rudy23]

36. I wish I could rec this post. We can never forget Rahm was Obama's number one draft pick.

Any time Obama sends bad cop Rahm out there to tell us things like "go fuck yourself on the public option", he's trying to disassociate from his own DLC policies. We cannot let him.

[Lorien]

37. But even some DUers defend them, saying "the only other choice is to

vote Republican". That's not true. We can expose the DLCers, run true Dems against them and if that fails, vote third party. We MUST stop believing that the old way is the only way. Our corporate masters are hoping that we never try or demand anything new.

[The Wizard]

42. Funny how Dean's efforts to rebuild the Party

were remarkably successful in such a short time span only to get Howard Dean jettisoned by the likes of Emanuel. They used Dean to get power and then gave him the boot.
A word of warning to the Blue Dogs: Howard Dean is a straight shooter and has insurance company stooges in his sights. Max Baucus will lose his Senate seat either through retirement, a primary challenge or a Republican victory, but his days as a United States Senator are winding down to the next election cycle. This should serve as a red flag to the DLC that Republican lite is not acceptable to the voters who cast ballots.
The political landscape has changed, and Emanuel is on the wrong side of history.
Taking bribes disguised as campaign contributions must cease. The Internet is a powerful tool the corporate lackeys have failed to understand, and their failure to grasp the power of the netroots will bring about their demise.
Twentieth Century strategies do not bring victory in the era of netroots mobilization.

[ChiciB1]

46. Dare I Say It... And I Realize Edwards Made His Own Mess... But It's

been rumored for years that EDWARDS would never make it in D.C., because D.C. "hated" him!

I KNOW... Edwards will be vilified here as he ALWAYS is by so many, but even though he had made some past decisions that he came to regret, regarding politics, BEFORE he got caught... they weren't going to let him "play" anyway!

This county has been bought and sold for... I realize many here don't understand why I feel this way, or why I carp... but this is just a part of it!

DEE-MOCK-CRAZY!!! I'm VERY fed up!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

7. Maxine tells the TRUTH --

It was Rahm while under Clinton who decided that all the corporate money the GOP was gettimg needed to be gotten by the Dems, too. I remember it clear as day.

Fuck Rahm, and Fuck the Democratic corporate lapdogs. :mad:

[mod mom]

8. Why did Maxine Waters support DLCer/"family/fellowship" member HRC in the primary?

Don't get me wrong. I believe Rep Waters is correct to blame Rahm but just wondering why she supported the corporate agenda in the primary.

[GreenTea]

10. Corporate blue-dogs "Democrats" will kill public option for health care that 76% of Americans want

[EC]

11. Why can't the Blue Dogs and Republicans realize that a big

part of why industry and small businesses are driven out is because of health-care? If they didn't have to provide it, their over-head would be cut by quite alot...

[LaPera]

14. Public Option would help small businesses immensely, but

the republicans & blue dog democrats truly, truly don't give a fuck about that, they support their corporate masters, big bucks insurance corporations...The insurance industry doesn't want to lose a single nickel in profits, and they clearly would if a public option were in place, because a public option would create competition.

And right now the insurance company have it all to themselves, which explains why they are spending over a million and a half dollars a week to defeat a public option...it's a good investment for the insurance corporations because with their outrageous cost for policy premiums they would lose billions if a public option passed, as others would be able to go elsewhere with a public option...

In so much as the reason why the insurance companies give big, big bucks to the republicans and the blue dog democrats to defeat a public option.

And they will defeat it, with all the lies and TV & radio ads they have planned distorting, smearing and lying about the true facts of a public option and how it would truly help tens of millions of Americans...but that doesn't really matter to the paid-off republicans or the paid-off blue dog democrats..

Because corporate money talks and the repugs & blue dogs gladly listen and will do what that money tells them they want....Screw the small businesses, the workers, the middle class and the poor...it's only the corporations profits that matter.

[bvar22]

13. I am glad to see REAL Democrats starting to Name Names.

Wellstone had started to do that shortly before he was killed.
Stay safe Maxine.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone

[ensho]

53. kick

nt

[ihavenobias]

18. K & R n/t

[Fire1]

20. Yeah, Rham may have recruited them but at whose behest? n/t

[madfloridian]

21. The republican wing of the democratic party. Of course.

:hi:

[avaistheone1]

25. Hhmm who does Rham work for?

:think:

[Captain Hilts]

49. The president is just a naive victim of Emmanuel's dastardly schemes! nt

[MasonJar]

24. Tell it like it is, Maxine. Good for you!!!!!! I knew as soon as Barack chose Rahm that

I was not going to be a happy camper with his administration. He is DLC personified, as is Obama. The later just never joined officially, but his policies tell all.

[tblue37]

26. Thank you for the summary for us deafies. Since the other peopel who posted this video did

not bother with a sumamry, yours is the one I will K&R. (I will not K&R videos when the poster won't bother to offer a summary for us hearing impaired people.)

[madfloridian]

30. Thanks for that. I always try to add some info.

I remember someone posting about what a problem it was, and I think we get thoughtless here.

:hi:

[tblue37]

32. I am that someone who posted the thread about what a

problem it is. It is very frustrating for use hearing impaired people to feel excluded from the communtiy because we cannot hear the words on the videos.

Now I make a point of selecting the viideo posts that do offer sumamries and K&Ring them (with an explanation that I am only K&Ring the ones with summaries.)

It has become something of a crusade for me.

[tblue37]

27. K&R for the summary. nt

[Divine Discontent]

31. wonderful person she is! and questionable he is! and great post with all info in text format too!

:)

and ps - blue dogs need to lose their bone for being bad and pissing on the carpet...

[TreeHugginHippie]

34. I'm moving to Canada if they don't get a public option

Screw this shit, man. I want free health care and some good herb, man. I'm outta here if Obama and the dems blow this, man! Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee!

[FlaGranny]

38. I hope you don't

believe that health care in Canada is free. It's not free anywhere in the world. Canadians pay for their health care through their taxes - everyone their fair share. Don't advertise you want to go to Canada to smoke pot and get free health care. They won't want you. You'd better have some bucks in your bank account and a profession that is in demand. Canada is not stupid.

[Moochy]

55. Bad Example of Troll in "Stealth Mode"

pizzatime!

[Captain Hilts]

40. Did Rahm make Obama hang out with Jim Cooper - the House's top opponent of healthcare

reform - during the campaign?

No, I didn't think so.

That said, I think the prez supports reform, but he's not the progressive he was marketed as being.

[BEZERKO]

41. Fucking Blue Cross Democrats!

[Lena inRI]

43. The Rahm giveth. . the .Rahm taketh away. . .

So it goes. .thanks to Representative Waters and you, madfloridian, for getting out the truth.

Course, anybody who's read any Shakespeare can see what the Rahm is.

President Obama, take notice. . .be on guard. You ARE the POTUS, you don't have to listen to the Rahm Iago as you press the Blue Dogs. . .better named Blue Snakes like the snake their sycophant IS.

You know your Iago will bite you in the ass.. . it's just a matter of time.



Laurence Fishburne as Othello/Kenneth Branagh as Iago

:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

[ChiciB1]

45. I Said It From The Get-Go... Rahm IS NOT Our Friend!! I Have Never

felt comfortable with him, never liked the way he operated and have had many doubts these past SEVEN months about quite of few of the decisions Obama has made!

I'll say again... about Obama...
I Voted For This Man, But This ISN'T The Man Who I Voted For... The CHANGE I See Is In HIM!!

So much talk about Change & Hope... while I went on "dreaming!"

Good for Maxine to FINALLY make some noise about this, wish there were more speaking out, and what's more I WISH so many of us here and around the country would GET THEIR HEAD out of the sand! We need to stand together with one voice and REVOLT!

Anymore, that's the ONLY way we are going to have ANY affect at all! Time's a wastin', yet I see it all the time here at DU, GIVE HIM "MORE" time!! With what has gone on in this little window of time so far, I wonder what 3 1/2 more years will look like!!

Are they just trying to pass "some" kind of health care bill, JUST TO SAY THEY DIDI?? I really wonder. Some say it's just a step to open up the debate for something better, I've become cynical enough to THINK NOT!!

Rahm is not my friend, but I guess there are many here who have yet to see THIS hand writing on the wall!

JMHO!!!!!!

[Captain Hilts]

48. The President is not a passive victim of Emmanuel's scheming folks.

If you support a policy, credit Franklin.
If you oppose a policy, blame Eleanor.

If you support a policy, credit Obama.
If you oppose a policy, blame Emmanuel.

[Mr. Sparkle]

50. While Maxine is right, we need Blue dog Democrats.

though they should not be put on committees of influence where they can sabotage at large the democratic agenda.

[Dinger]

51. Yes, blue dogs (repukes) Should Be "Primaries"

Definitely. I'm going to do a poll.

[mrs_p]

52. i am suspect of rahm's recruits

one of which is betsy markey who just beat marilyn musgrave here in FOCO. i don't think she is considered a bluedog but i'll be watching her very carefully. i know she had to be pressured to vote for the energy bill and i don't think she has yet to take a stand on the health care reform bill in the house.

[ieoeja]

54. I mostly like this part.

"She is regularly meeting with the progressive caucus, the black caucus, and the tri-caucus to stategize against the Blue Dogs and keep a robust public option."

I only say "mostly" because I think the Democrats ought to go ahead with single payer. Democrats only need 1/4th of the Blue Dogs to pass legislation.

[Butch350]

56. There is no two party system anymore...

it's just the Natl Corporate Party, they just switch the names of democrat and republican every fews years
to keep the illusion in place.

[miyazaki]

59. Rahm gets the palm.

Never liked that squirrely weasel going back over a decade.

[psychopomp]

63. May she be only the first

...not the last, of congresspeople who endeavor to keep this administration honest by calling them out on their right-leaning policies.