How not to hire an American

[GeorgeGist]

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[bluestateguy]

1. "Jobs Americans won't do"

is such a dishonest argument. Plenty of Americans will pick lettuce, dig ditches and work manual labor if you pay a living wage and good benefits.

These corporate slimeballs simply don't want to do that, so they are demanding an immigration bill that will flood the market will millions of desperate workers, thereby driving wage and benefit scales down.

In addition, the bill's "path to citizenship" provisions are unfair to those legal immigrants who have been patiently waiting and playing by the rules.

The bill must be defeated. Not amended and tinkered with, but defeated.

[leveymg]

2. If you show up at a CA State Labor Dept Office, they will send you to an ag job at $12.67/hr

You don't have to live in the housing provided by the farm labor contractor, but most do. If you don't speak Spanish, you won't be able to communicate with most of your coworkers. If you can't hack stoop labor with nothing between you and the blazing sun except a straw hat for 8 hours a day, then you won't last.

Are you sure you want to pick tomatoes and green beans for a living? How about laying roofing tar or asbestos removal?

Yes, there are jobs most of us avoid.

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[TheFarseer]

28. wow, you came in with a bang!

I agree with you totally. I cut grass 8 hours a day. I walked through cornfields for a full day of detasseling. It's good for young people to do manual labor. It makes you want to do better and puts some money in your pocket too. Much better than sitting around with your Playstation and begging money from your parents. When we let them tell us we need illegal immigrants because we're too good to do manual labor, it's so wrong on so many levels.

[Maraya1969]

38. They are talking about jobs with RESUMES! Not pressure washing jobs.

Besides there are plenty of people ready and willing to take hard jobs at a decent rate. A lot of kids picked corn and other produce during the summer months in our town. I remember going to a friend's work where the fumes from the glue were so overbearing I had to leave. And these people worked there full time.

There are plenty of hard and dangerous jobs that Americans can and will do. This is just pure greed by trying to get cheap labor. My extended family worked in a steal mill....hard work but it supported a family.

The list can go on and on and as someone said in this thread....what about the Coal miners? That is one of the most dangerous jobs ever and yet people still do it.

I can't believe you said that.

[Warpy]

41. Welcome to DU

A lot of us on this board have done amazingly disgusting and uncomfortable jobs and would do them again if they paid us enough to live on. Some of us are desperately bored by office work and some of us want to keep moving, not be chained to a desk.

The problem is that the jobs that keep this world going carry no respect and pay starvation wages.

(Next time, hit "alert" if you spot an elitist troll posting flamebait.)

[Highway61]

47. The market is dead folks....period

I've been in recruiting for years and made a good living at it. Those were the days when companies wanted the best and the brightest (MIT, Harvard etc.). After 9/11 it all went away. Most of the recruiters I knew are at Home Depot working. The jobs that are posted on Hot Jobs and Monster are bogus...just as the video said. They will cut cost anyway they can...how else would the CEO's make salaries in the millions (Yahoo, for instance, he stepped down yesterday with 71mil in his pocket....give me a break..that is obscene!)
Yea, there are jobs posted alright..the jobs don't exist, the companies collect resumes from outside recruiters and hold onto them with no intention of hiring anyone of them.

example...Colgate Toothpaste...FDA did a recall because Diethylene Glycol (anti freeze)was found. Well, Colgate said that the toothpaste was counterfeit. It was from Africa. All's well and good right? What they didn't tell you was all their toothpaste is made in MEXICO... (there's a country with good environmental standards and over-site :sarcasm: as well as high paid quality labor. "American" Company at it's best (CEO there will leave in July with a package over 148MIL...)http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2007/03/30/colgate_ceo_receives_194m_in_2006/

Remember the good old Hershey Bar? Made in Mexico they moved a few months ago...sorry I'm ranting, but I am angry as hell.:grr:

p.s New here.... what does n/t stand for?

[Fovea]

66. N/T = "No Text" n/t

[Maraya1969]

70. They moved "Hershey" to Mexico??? They named an entire town

after that candy.


FUCK THEM!

[Highway61]

74. here's the link

They closed the plant in Reading, PA and Oakdale, CA and some workers from Hershey as well, Oh, and by the way....they were UNION employees that were laid off! The continued erosion of the middle class...I will NEVER buy that brand again!

http://keystonepolitics.com/hershey-closes-reading-plant-moves-mexico

http://www.theodoresworld.net/archives/2007/06/jalapeno_chocloate_anyone.html

[Morgana LaFey]

77. Welcome to DU

How did you happen to find us? Glad to have you, but I thought uncannily coincidental you showed up just in time to comment on this thread. Just curious. And I definitely share your rage.

:toast:

[Highway61]

84. Found an article from Air America Radio

A while back...Been reading the website ever since. GREAT people. Yahoo removed the message boards and I found I was surrounded by knuckleheads. I joined yesterday and here I am. Although I am nervous about posting as I know "Big brother" is watching...I feel at home here. God...NORMAL people. A breath of fresh air I'll tell ya...whew :)

[Morgana LaFey]

87. Oh, we just sorta ignore Big Brother -- he's quiet enough not to

disturb us.

:evilgrin:

[Ladyhawk]

88. Interesting...they're closing the Hershey plant down the hill.

Moving to Mexico, is it? Lovely. :(

[Kajsa]

56. Did you read the DU rules

regarding personal attacks?

Quote-- "You are an arrogant, condescending ass-wipe"-- unquote.

Please read them.

You can find the link on the homepage.

Edit-

here, I copied it for you.

3. Civility: Treat other members with respect. Do not post personal attacks against other members of this discussion forum.

[bluestateguy]

14. Thousands of Americans are coal miners

The work is dangerous, repetitive and boring. Yet the pay and benefits are good, so Americans line up to do these jobs in states like West Virginia (those jobs that are left anyway).

[hootinholler]

17. The jobs these people are referring to are not those jobs.

This shit has cost me personally in my industry for most of my career.

-Hoot

[robinlynne]

32. If you watch the video, you will see the opposite is ture. They are strategizing about

HOW TO GET RID of the 50 American applicants looking for each job!

[lazyriver]

43. 10-14 years ago while in college, I spent two summers and

two spring breaks laying hot tar roofing in Newark and Perth Amboy, NJ to pay my way through school. The money was good but the work was back breaking, hot, dirty, and you did it for 10 -12 hours a day, six days a week.

I spent my other spring breaks and summers waiting tables, framing houses, and laying shingle roofs. There were many other people like me doing the same things at all those jobs. There were others who worked these jobs as second or third jobs because they were putting their kids through school, paying off debt, or simply struggling to survive without having to accept welfare.

I was able to pay my way through college with minimal student loans because these jobs existed and paid well to those who don't mind busting their asses to better their lives.

Your comments make it seem obvious you've never HAD to do a job "most of us avoid". If that is the case, I hope you realize how fortunate you are.

[acmavm]

48. Your post just disgusts me. I've done crap jobs simply to have a

job. I wasn't picky either.

Hey, guess what. We won't need to learn how to speak Spanish if we PUT AMERICANS TO WORK.

[nedbal]

79. If the poster is in his 20's then it's a bad attitude, Me.. I'm a LOT older with a family...

and couldn't hack that kind of work any more. I did something close to it in my 20's

[robinlynne]

31. absolutely!

[Maraya1969]

39. In case anyone wants to contact this lovely "Cohen Law firm" here is theinformation

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[april]

51. thanks I will

we all should ...how did they get this on video ?

[Warpy]

3. I wish I could give this one multiple recommendations

because it needs to be on the front page of DU and everybody needs to see it.

These smarmy suits are what we are all up against.

[whistle]

4. If American workers become disqualified enough times, they get

...discouraged and then drop out of the job market and then BushCo can claim that unemployment is decreasing. So, what's the solution? How can American workers rights be protected?

[moblsv]

5. k&r

.

[silverweb]

6. Disgusting.

n/t

[General Lee]

7. Isn't it time for a

REVOLUTION!?!?!?!?!?!?!

I'll get the guillotines, the rest of you round up the aristocrats!

[EVDebs]

19. General...see post #18. The "law" is being ignored and loopholed

and each of these felonys are punishable to $10,000. Yet lawyers show how to keep doing it. Hmmm.

[progressoid]

8. Good God.

How do they sleep at night?

[ArbustoBuster]

25. They sleep on a huge pile of money.

Bastards.

[ElboRuum]

65. Only Humans Need Sleep. Not Pods.

[Dr.Phool]

9. What a bunch of disgusting bastards.

[kikiek]

10. This should be on every newscast. Unfortunately those corporations are probably part of it.

[Garrett]

12. Sick...

It's amazing these people are so casual about discussing this in a group....while being filmed ... and giving such explicit instructions. Sickening. They obviously don't see anything wrong with it.

[kikiek]

13. Isn't it ironic that their job is the one that a true American wouldn't do.

[lumberjack_jeff]

49. I guess I was wrong.

There ARE jobs that I wouldn't do. I wouldn't be one of the fucking assholes for all the tea in China.

[SergeyDovlatov]

15. Umm.... They are lawyers. That is what they do

There are laws on the books. They are navigating around them to do what their clients want.

They are talking about getting a DOL approval for converting a person on H-1B (usually in high-tech) to a permanent resident. H1-Bs are limited to 3 years and can be extended to another 3 years after which a person should leave the US.

Now, if a person worked in a company for 6 years and is a good match, employer will try to retain him and get a permanent status. That is the time when the lawyers will perform the compliance requirements by playing tricks highlighted by this video.

I don't find this anymore disgusting than any other times when lawyers are finding a way to skirt the laws their clients don't like.

[kikiek]

24. You don't find it anymore disgusting that they are working to keep US citizens

unemployed? This is typical Bush shit at work. Replace the worker and lower the wage. It is disgusting and anti American, but that is Bush's "legacy" in all he has done.

[SergeyDovlatov]

29. not exactly true

It is more about keeping skilled foreigners who otherwise will be booted out of the country after 6 years.
This was the law of the land for a long long time. That was the case long before Bush Jr. came to power.

I am actually sympathetic to H1-B to Permanent resident conversions. If you want to fight this, you need to strike at the root. Namely, H1-B visas for skilled workers.

The question I would ask, would you like to close the country to all foreigners until you reach 100% employment?
If not, what kind of immigrants would you like to come to this country and under what conditions?

[kikiek]

42. Not ones that are "imported" to replace American workers. Often the laid off American is training in

in their replacement. This form of the practice is an abuse it isn't about immigration.

[SergeyDovlatov]

54. you avoided the question

"The question I would ask, would you like to close the country to all foreigners until you reach 100% employment? If not, what kind of immigrants would you like to come to this country and under what conditions?"

This video is about making an employee you like a permanent resident. If you object to H1-B visas and want to get rid of them, then, you eliminate the only realistic path that a skillful foreigner can start on to become an american.

There is no other legal immigration option (discounting marriage, exceptional abilities (sport/science), adoptions and refugee/asylee status)

[1monster]

64. Did we watch the same video?

This video is about making an employee you like a permanent resident. If you object to H1-B visas and want to get rid of them, then, you eliminate the only realistic path that a skillful foreigner can start on to become an american.

This video was about disqualifying any and all qualified resumes. Did you miss the part that said that if a resume met all of the qualifications for the position, then the resume was turned over to a management member to find some way of disqualifying that person.

This isn't about keeping already employed HB-1 visa workers. It's about bringing in more foreign workers on HB-1 visas and getting them green cards at the expense of the U.S. citizen worker and taxpayer.

[SergeyDovlatov]

69. Yes we did watch the same video

This video was about disqualifying any and all qualified resumes. Did you miss the part that said that if a resume met all of the qualifications for the position, then the resume was turned over to a management member to find some way of disqualifying that person.

Yes. They are talking about disqualifying americans. We did watch the same video.

This isn't about keeping already employed HB-1 visa workers. It's about bringing in more foreign workers on HB-1 visas and getting them green cards at the expense of the U.S. citizen worker and taxpayer.

I understand how you can get this impression from watching this video. But this appearance is misleading.

In the video they are talking about how to make a foreigner a permanent resident. Getting a permanent residency is the last step in the long chain of events that happen to the foreigner who wants to immigrate to the US.

Now, under what condition a company wants to make a foreigner to be a permanent resident?
ANSWER: When a company wants to continue his employment and he/she can no longer be employed under H-1B visa (6 years max).

Moreover getting a permanent residency for a foreigner is risky for the sponsoring company, since, as soon as he gets permanent status the person is no longer bound to work for that company and can seek better employment elsewhere.

Under H-1B a foreigner is bound to work for the company indicated in H-1B visa. As soon as his employment terminated he has to leave the country or be deported. Getting a person on H-1B is similar to getting an indentured servant that has to work for you or be thrown out of the country. Getting a greencard for that person is similar to granting him freedom.

Unfortunately to grant that person freedom you have to perform the regulatory compliance dance and this video illustrates the absurdity of it.

[Fovea]

68. The offensive thing about it

is how cynically it subverts the intent of the law.

I am not against current H1-B workers seeking residency. I am against using the law in a 'race to the bottom' tool against highly skilled domestic labor.

Further, it seems like a RICO group conspiring to abet others in a fraud on applying workers. There is no good faith intent to hire, so the offer constitutes fraud, does it not? The whole killer interview technique itself is bait and switch.

But the fraud on the applying worker is not simply an injury to the applicant, it is a fraud on the applicant and the government, whose regulations they are frankly subverting.

Or am I missing something?

[SergeyDovlatov]

73. You are right on target

I think you provide a fair assessment of situation.

Lawyers are working hard to workaround the law which, if enforced as intended will DENY any chance of a foreigner immigrating to US ever. (apart from marriage, adoption, refugee/asylee, exceptional scientist/entertainer/sportsman)

Again, as I mentioned before, this video is about getting PERM labor certification for a person who you want to keep employed after expiration of H1-B visa. (see my post #69 where I provide more extensive explanation)

Peace
Sergey

[knoxy]

80. I can't stand Bush

but you can't blame this on him solely.

Hillary Clinton has been in bed with Tata Consulting for years. This is not a Bush issue. It's not a Democrat or Republican issue. Lou Dobbs is no liberal. This is an AMERICAN issue. Blaming Bush won't get you anywhere. I hate the guy as much as anyone, but this is one area that doesn't solely lie on his shoulders.

There are some great Senators and Reps out there pushing for bills on immigration that target more than illegal immigration - they target American companies attempting to circumvent the system (as this law firm is). Support them!

[kikiek]

81. We do need to support them.

[Poll_Blind]

16. WOW! About one post every two months comes up like this that...

...I wish I could reach out and force people to watch. That is simply incredible.

Incredible!

PB

[EVDebs]

18. DOL's ETA Form 9035 wording is a hoot

http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/pdf/h1bcl.pdf

Page 6 of 10 starting with (A)...I know of plenty of displaced US workers.

The hilarious 'attestation's, made under a supposed penalty of perjury, make it easier than ever to simply fire your current workforce of US citizens and then outsource your labor pool with H1B visa holders.

The old days required an 'attestation' that you weren't displacing any current US workers, but apparently the DOL got wind of this little problem and now makes discrimination in hiring US citizens easier than ever. You'd think that discriminatory hiring on basis of nationality wouldn't be used AGAINST US citizens, but we live in an insane world now, don't we ?

[EVDebs]

20. Invitation to fraud

Invitation to fraud

By MATT WICKENHEISER, Staff Writer

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/immigration/060926im22m.html

"The U.S. Department of Labor's role in approving visas for skilled foreign workers is a rubber stamp that exposes the system to fraud, according to internal audits and a Portland Press Herald/Maine Sunday Telegram investigation...

This certification process could hurt American workers and raises national security issues, critics and auditors suggest, by not providing enough review of the need for foreign labor in the United States...

The Labor Department "has minimal human intervention during the review process and the certification approval is simply a rubber stamp, as long as the (labor condition application) is complete and free of obvious errors," the U.S. Department of Labor's Office of the Inspector General said in its 2003 report, "Overview and Assessment of Vulnerabilities in the Department of Labor's Alien Labor Certification Programs. And that rubber-stamp program is a magnet for those who want to defraud the system, the auditors suggested in the same report, as evidenced by continued findings of fraud in the system by their office."


So...what's new ? Old hearings on this in '05

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1428181&mesg_id=1428289

and Congress did NOTHING !

[Robert Oak]

21. Dailykos diary also

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/18/22435/0365

[HCE SuiGeneris]

22. I couldn't watch the whole video I was so pissed off...

Who is this company in the clip?

[Robert Oak]

26. diary

on dailykos I wrote all of the details and people dug further.

If you think that's bad just the originals were really a horror show because there were no validating comments...

[Robert Oak]

23. TY Everybody

This is so outrageous ...is that a real ID name?

[zalinda]

27. Any one send this to Dobbs?

Isn't he the one who is leading the charge for American workers?

zalinda

[file83]

30. The empire is crumbling. Oh well!

[robinlynne]

33. This video is exceptional. Can you tell me (us) where it came from,and the context?

Who was in the audience? Where and when, etc?
I ask, in order to try to pass this on and get people to see it, besides us.

[chalky]

34. Lawrence M. Lebowitz of Cohen & Grigsby

http://www.cohenlaw.com/attorneys-81.html

Don't know who he was speaking to, but here's a page from their website.

[robinlynne]

35. listed in "The Best Lawyers of America", no less. a criminal.

[robinlynne]

36. oh shit. This man went to my college.

[SergeyDovlatov]

37. In case somebody cares how it works, here is a brief summary

How a foreigner can become a permanent resident.

1. Get admitted to a grad school in US. Student visas almost automatic in this case
2. Get interviewed by companies visiting grad schools and drop out of school
(at this point you are competing with americans on the merit, not as a foreigner)
3. if you get yourself a job, you need to make sure that your employer really likes you and wants to keep you after your work visa expires (H1-B 6 years max)
4. If employer wants to keep you, he needs to sponsor your green-card and that is exactly the time when he employs the lawyers such as the ones shown in this video. (and those lawyers are not cheap. let me tell you)

So, what part of this process do you disagree with?

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

46. The part where the employer skips over workers in his own country

and picks you, because you won't insist on expensive things like a health plan. And step 4 will never happen, because these people don't want you to become a full citizen, for the same reason. When your visa expires, you'll be swapped out for the next guy to come over the border.

[EVDebs]

52. Also the employer deliberately weeds out older US workers

in favor of younger H1b visa holders. Mass firings of US workers, to be replaced by H1b holders were the norm back in 2002, mostly for jobs that Indians will be trained for and then the jobsite will be transferred to 'backoffice' in India. The training takes place here.

[shance]

67. It's like they are admitting they are totally disregarding equal opportunity

This is an interesting video, not in a positive way.

[SergeyDovlatov]

53. not applicable in the context of this thread

"CND writes: When your visa expires, you'll be swapped out for the next guy to come over the border."

That is not applicable in this case. This video is about step 4. H1-B to perm resident conversion. Listen carefuly what the lawyer says in the beginning: "PERM process".

I understand that you guys want to feel outraged and, I agree, the video does make your blood boil if you don't have a full understanding how the system works. To me, it just shows the absurdity of immigration laws.

I went through this process myself and so 100s of the people I know. I challenge anyone to continue this discussion and, I believe, in the end you will be able to appreciate the point I am making.
I am also interested to hear how do you think it is possible to fix immigration laws to avoid absurdities such as in this video that people had to jump through to get a permanent residency status.

Peace,
Sergey

[kristopher]

72. It also happens at stage one

While this video segment is about conversion of temp status to perm status, it also happens in the initial recruitment stage. You don't really think that in a country of 300,000,000 people there weren't qualified people who were willing to do your job, do you?

You're here because you bring increased competition to the labor pool and exert a downward pressure on wages. No offense meant to you personally, but that's the way it is.

[SergeyDovlatov]

76. Yes and No

You're here because you bring increased competition to the labor pool and exert a downward pressure on wages. No offense meant to you personally, but that's the way it is.

I agree with you here. However, I don't really know the solution to this apart from closing the country to immigrants altogether.

Wait. Let me revise that. I am here because I want what is best for me and my family and to bring my unique abilities and perspective to the country I admire (foreign policy notwithstanding). ;)

The explanation you offered is indeed one of the reasons why I was allowed into this country, but it wasn't my motivation. ;)

You don't really think that in a country of 300,000,000 people there weren't qualified people who were willing to do your job, do you?

Yes. There are plenty of qualified people, but they are already employed by our competitors and to lure them to come work for us will require offering more money, better benefits, etc than salary and benefit package of the company they are currently working for.

it also happens in the initial recruitment stage.

No (discounting H1-B abuse and fake companies which whole goal of existence is to bring foreigners in).
Well, let me take my "no" back and replace it with maybe (since I know how it works only in a few companies, I can only infer how it works in others).

In the company I work for, when a person comes for an interview his immigration status is unknown to interviewers and we are prohibited from asking it. We need to make a hire/no-hire decision on the merit (which includes whether a person has a good command of english language which gives american an advantage over a foreigner).

After a person is given a "hire" and agreed to take a position and happened to be a foreigner, HR and legal department will take care of the compliance paperwork to get him H-1B visa

[Ganja Ninja]

40. United we stand.

:patriot:
:sarcasm:

[SteelPenguin]

44. I've met a couple of them before

You know how when you meet some people you think they're nice and they're really just playing you and they're scum?

That's not these people.

No these people were "off". Broken. They seemed really weird to me. I don't know how to describe it. Kind of like when you have your kids with you and they meet one person and talk to them and tell them about their toys and their day, and other people they just stare at? These are people some adults might not find anything wrong with, but kids will just stare at them.

Some might describe it as soulless. I dunno.

[kikiek]

45. Funny until it is your job they start looking at. There aren't any that are safe if the current

administration has their way. The only equal opportunity they believe in is lower wages and multiple jobs to get by for all. It isn't a joke.

[april]

50. how American makes me sick

maybe we should send this to Keith Obermann..

[Kajsa]

55. This makes me sick to my stomach.

Words fail to describe how I feel
about this.

:puke: --- says it all.

[K in FL]

57. Here's one example of Employers' abusing the sysyem...

My nephew owns and operates a Tile Company in Florida. Although it is a small business, he tries to keep two full time American workers busy. He pays them barely a living wage starting @ 10 dollars per hour. Two tile companies in the area employ illegals from Guatemala. These companies bid jobs far below what my nephew can afford and remain in business. Out of necessity, these illegals live four families to a house. To top that off they send half their menial wages back to their homeland. While they have children who are considered American citizens, they get food stamps and medicaid. How does any of this help our economy?

[curlyred]

63. they do not get food stamps nor do they qualify for medicaid

15 posts, huh?
Nice little anecdotal story but bullshit nevertheless.

[iamahaingttta]

58. Umm... you know... we consumers

could refuse to buy anything made by companies that behave in this way.
And do it loudly!
For example, I will never buy another Hershey product again.

If we would treat the companies that treat their workers like shit as the pariahs that they are, they'll either get the message, or go out of business.

Just sayin'...

[getmeouttahere]

62. Seems to me that's the ONLY answer, imaahaingttta....

I have serious doubts whether amerkins will take the time and make the sacrifices necessary to pull off these kinds of boycotts, but in my view its the only power we have left. Even Dem politicians (with a few exeptions like Kucinich) won't stand up for the average Joe, but if we stop purchasing their products maybe we can change things. I'm open to suggestions, but I don't see any other way.

First step, stop shopping at Wal-Mart with their cheap chinese crap and low wages/no benefits!!! There are alternatives out there, folks, you just have to seek them out.

One example, for purchasing non-sweatshop, union-made clothing is:

www.justiceclothing.com

[AzDar]

59. Kick!! n/t

[supernova]

60. I am heartsick

and enraged.

The things I want to do to this presenter in this video and the people on this dais aren't printable here. :grr:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

61. Sent the following letter to the firm that made this video...

Resume submission to http://www.cohenlaw.com/

Kimberly A. Connell
Human Resources and Office Manager
412.297.4920
[e-mail]
vCard


RE: The following link contains some very revealing information on how you conduct business http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

As I am an American, it would appear that I have no chance of qualifying for a position within your company, or those with which you consult. Your strategy depicted in this video of your marketing seminar is truly disgusting. Thank you for contributing to the demise of this country. May you rot in hell.

XXXX X.

[Highway61]

75. Excellent

Although it will fall on deaf ears as these folks don't give a rat's ass. As long as they get a paycheck, they would sell out their own mother. I am sick of the "all about me" attitude. Maybe should send to MSNBC Keith would be interested...no? I already sent off to Randi Rhodes...


whoops...spelling

[HCE SuiGeneris]

82. KO sounds like a great idea...

Welcome to DU Highway61 :hi: :kick:

[Vilis Veritas]

71. Human resources.

We are resources. Not people.

Peace.

[Morgana LaFey]

78. I don't know whether to cry, break things or throw up

Or maybe all three.

What I DID do was send this to anyone who's EVER BEEN IN my email address book. I've sent it to people I don't even know who they are anymore. I urge all of you to do the same.

I'm seriously sick at heart to see something like this.

[Kajsa]

83. Morgana, I did the same thing.

I've sent it to everyone I know.

This needs widespread distribution!

If every one person passes it on to 5-6 people,
it'll get around.

[BadgerKid]

85. Version from informationweek.com

http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199905192

[rosesaylavee]

86. Kick

Late to the thread with a kick for the Tues eve folks. Everyone should see this.

[old_techie]

89. original Cohen & grigsby videos posted

all 20 original at

http://lyrelyrepantzandfier.com/wordpress/cgseminar/