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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:35 PM
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Michael Moore to health care execs:
 
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Jeezus, can we get Moore to run for POTUS? :)
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:46 PM
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1. How about we expose where they all live?
I KNOW WHERE YOU ASSHOLES LIVE YOU IMMORAL DIRTY MURDERING BASTARDS!

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 07:54 PM
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2. At work, I'm getting all sorts of calls from health insurance
companies. I laugh when they call, and tell them that no, we don't have health insurance, but no, I'm not interested. "Go watch Sicko and you'll know why," I've told them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:55 PM
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14. You don't want health insurance?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:46 AM
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15. Not when the cost is 1/3 of my salary
and every one of these "plans" cost about two paychecks. Right now, I'm getting by-and I mean getting by- on my salary. If I get health insurance, I can either choose to not eat, not pay the rent, or not put gas in the car so I can get to work. Plus my husband has several chronic health problems that means he can't get health insurance at all. Luckily, we do have a bit of accident insurance, and we have a wonderful holistic physician who accepts payments.
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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:00 PM
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3. oops, part of my title is missing
Moore to insurance execs: "Head for the hills!"
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:36 PM
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4. Brilliant, MM. Make it a campaign issue.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 08:44 PM
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5. MM has 'caught the wave'......
he's leading the charge!

Grab your boards! ---- surf's up!

Whooooo-Hooooooooooooo!

K & R
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:00 PM
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6. Wow, really good stuff! Good to hear him going against the corporate religion.
The whole idea that the free market is the cause of every ill...Cause in this case he's right, there is a massive conflict of interest in having for profit health insurance companies.
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Puppyjive Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:08 PM
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7. HMO's need to die
Our nicest building in town is an HMO. I called them to see about getting my mother some health insurance because my father retired and her insurance was dropped. Sure, they said, but she is going to pay a lot of money. She was 60 years old, so her premium would come at such a high price, my parents could not afford it. I hate looking at the building. Every time I drive by, I wonder how it is that hmo's can discriminate based on age because my mom is in excellent health. My mom is uninsured, so she has to pay for her doctor visits which she is charged more for than a person who has insurance. The entire US health care system is dysfunctional.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:27 PM
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8. You know someone whom I "respected", and didn't appreciate, said that YEARS ago,
and I didn't understand it at the time - not for a LOOONG time.....

How do you think they can afford these buildings? The Prudential Building in Chicago, for example....."Like a Rock" was their motto......

Now, think about the MAJOR buildings in YOUR town (whom-ever, where-ever you are?).....WHO PAYS for that????? Someone getting cheated out of a life-saving operation?
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:33 PM
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9. Btw, the Prudential Building is right next to the "Amoco" Building (oil)
Amoco was purchased by BP (much to the chagrin of Amoco employees).....THEN the 'Amoco' Building was purchased by the AON Corporation (insurance).......and you can't even get into the f'g lobby w/o an ID card.

We, citizens (CONTRIBUTORS) to HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE, have now been FULLY LOCKED OUT from the spoils of those riches, and even reliving the MEMORY of those 'golden, fun, mostly happy years'.....I'm pissed, and VERY, VERY, RESENTFUL - justifiably so!!!!!
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livingonearth Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:40 PM
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10. Those with insurance can't afford to get care either!
My girlfriend pays for insurance every month, but because of a high deductible she still can't afford to see her doctor. You can forget about preventive medicine with a system like this. x(
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Conscious Confucius Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:56 PM
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11. Michael Moore hates the American people.
Insurance companies that cause people to die by denying insurance do not. Simple logic.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:30 AM
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21. Welcome to DU, Puppyive! n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:32 PM
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12. Gore/Moore 2008! Woo-hoo! (n/t)
:hi:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:39 PM
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13. Is "Sicko" opening one week earlier that June 29 across the country?
...I saw that posted here on DU earlier today, but I was working and could not follow through and read the post. So if it is in fact going to happen one week earlier is there a list of cities where this will occur?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:54 PM
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26. the list is on michaelmoore.com
yes, a bunch of cities

michael is in chicago today

there is a 5:00 rally in daley plaza today and a private showing at a chgo theater.

then it hits a lot of theaters tomorrow (friday)--check his website.
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DK Rocks Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:17 AM
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16. He's Right
He's Right that we ask our candidates to outline HOW they plan on changing healthcare in America. That's why my vote is for Kucinich. He's the only candidate that seems to get the fact that what we need is NOT health insurance, but health CARE.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:31 AM
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22. Welcome to DU, DK Rocks! n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:48 AM
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23. He's right, but don't insurance crookmanies own Congress, who
writes/passes the laws about maximizing profits?
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:23 AM
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17. WOW!
Now, let's watch all the Kool-Aid drinkers attack Mr. Moore. Like rats on a sinking ship... I am ever so grateful that Mr. Moore is articulate, informed and unafraid. AND, if I'm ever given the opportunity to meet him, I'm gonna hug his neck.
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ccinamon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:45 AM
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18. Wow!! What a stunning and moving speech!
I hope he is right that the American people are going to hold the candidates responsible for answering the question: "What is your plan to improve health care for Americans?"
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:38 AM
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19. I liked the parts
...where he said the health insurance companies were going. They have to go. They can go do cars or fires or whatever, but health care? Gone.

I actually think this goal is quite achievable. I know an ignorant and I mean really ignorant republican who is smart enough to advocate socialized medicine. This person actually loathes Michael Moore but would jump on this bandwagon in a heartbeat.

I also liked it when he pointed out that there is a clash of interests with for-profit medical care. The companies are corporations and therefore legally bound to make a profit. The only way they can do it is by cutting back on care. Doesn't mesh. Does. Not. Compute.



Cher

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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:05 AM
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20. President Moore it's got a ring to it. =)
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 11:08 AM by cooolandrew
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:11 PM
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24. I hope people do see his movie
and moreso, I hope that people wake up and see that health care for profit is wrong!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 12:25 PM
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25. Michael Moore makes such perfect sense. It should be obvious
to any of the Democratic candidates talking "universal health care" that they better not mean "universal insurance."
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farmhand Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 03:20 PM
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27. Greedy souless doctors are to blame
One of the biggest perpetrators of the health care industry scam is the AMA. It was the AMA who paid off Congress to make sure that new hospitals can't be built without tons of permits and regulations and they have also made sure that only their state approved buddies can be doctor's in the first place. Setting up tons and tons of regulation in favor of limiting the number of doctors per area in the U.S. is by far the best way to keep salaries well into the 6 figures for doctors and insure that 1000's of people in the U.S. either fork over big bucks or go without health care. How can you explain why you need insurance or government subsidies to afford health care. Why can't someone just goto a doctor and pay cash? Simple, no one can afford to pay cash, thats why. Prime example, we have a person I work with and she cut her hand at work, nothing too serious, small cut. She went to the doctor down the road, and in 15 minutes he stitched it, one lousy stitch, and then charged workers comp $400 for the job. The government had to pick up the tab because she cannot afford the bill. Now if that isn't blatant greed on the part of the doctor, then tell what is? Anybody else could have done it for less than a $100 but he is the only doctor in the area. All the laws and regulations surrounding doctors were bought and paid for by the AMA. This is without a doubt one of the biggest obstacles facing socialized health care in this country. Doctor's will simply go private just like in Great Britain because they actually believe that they are so far above reproach that they would not ever work for less than 6 figures. Greed knows no limit with these assholes, and people are dieing because of it!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 06:05 PM
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28. When a doctor has to go a quarter of a million dollars
into debt for med school, and then pay our exorbitant amounts each year for malpractice insurance, then he or she had better make a lot of money.

My daughter just finished her third eyar of med school. She is looking at that much debt when she graduates next year. Other advanced countries subsidize the training of doctors. Here, they have to pay for it themselves, and it is a huge amount of debt to take on at the beginning of your career--and residents make about $40,000/year, so it will be a long time before she will evn begin to make the sort of money that will help her pay down that debt.

Her dream has always been to serve medically underserved communities, as well as to donate time each year to oranizations like Doctors without Borders, but she now realizes that she has to make money--or else.

Doctors also have to pay overhead and other costs. A lot of the money we pay for medical services goes into administrative ovrhead because of insurance companies.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:15 PM
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29. The doctors I go to don't belong to the AMA
Not that I intended it to be that way, just that they don't. I used to think all doctors belonged or had to belong.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 09:17 PM
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31. The AMAs history is quite sordid - they bitterly fought Canada's health reforms among other things.
It's in bed with the insurance companies.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 01:50 AM
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30. I've seen Sicko, and it absolutely confirms what I have been saying
for years:

Allowing the insurance companies AND the pharmaceutical companies to be publicly traded entities is immoral and unethical, and it sure as hell should be illegal.

What MM said in this clip, about those companies being mandated to produce profits for their shareholders, just confirms it.

When I was part of an investment group, several members wanted to invest in Merck. I was absolutely adamant that we NOT do that, and I told them why. This was a group of very savvy, very blue women, but I was able to teach them a few things about insurance and Big Pharma, and in the end, they agreed that investing in Merck would be immoral.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 08:43 AM
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32. Michael Moore Rocks
Healthcare is going to be the BIG Issue and the WAR
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