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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 03:43 AM
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Democracy Now: Republican Gomorrah (1\3): Inside the Movement That Shattered the Party
 
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Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement That Shattered the Party

In a Democracy Now! exclusive, award-winning journalist, Max Blumenthal, joins us for the first extended interview about his debut book, Republican Gomorrah: Inside the Movement That Shattered the Party. The book traces the rise of the radical right in the U.S. and how it used the concept of personal crisis to grow as a movement and eventually capture control of the GOP to transform it from the party of Dwight Eisenhower to the party of Sarah Palin.

Part TWO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9y4hhxiliQ

Part THREE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqo8TdfDosE
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:16 AM
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1. Here's the original DN! article, with transcript:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/4/republican_gomorrah_inside_the_movement_that

Thanks for the lead! I wasn't trying to "upstage" you, but I thought this link would be more useful to most here.

pnorman
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:41 AM
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8. Thx to you both. nt
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 06:40 AM
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2. Bookmark.
Incredible.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:19 AM
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3. most interesting
interview.... a most credible explanation for the choice of Palin by McCain
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:25 AM
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4. great interview, thanks nt
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:36 AM
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5. k/r
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 09:11 AM
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6. Very insightful. Thank you.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:31 AM
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7. Every Democrat and Democratic leader needs to
see this and read the book.

The battle between Theocrats and Corprocrats. Is that what we have become?
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:13 AM
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10. And Jeff Sharlet's book, "The Family".
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 11:15 AM by dgibby
I sincerely believe this movement has already infiltrated the Democratic Party, in the guise of the DLC and Blue Dogs.

The problem with liberals/progressives is that we cannot wrap our heads around their ideology, so we tend to dismiss them as a lunatic fringe. They're much, much more than that, and we ignore them at our own peril because they will not stop until the US becomes a Theocracy.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:16 AM
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11. Peril
And, you know, under Rushdoony’s plan, disobedient children, witches, blasphemers, adulterers, abortion doctors would all be executed, according to, you know, Leviticus case law. As extreme as it sounds, it had an enormous impact on the right-wing evangelical movement as it moved from the pews into the political realm, because it gave them something to campaign for, even if what they were going to get was going to be more along the lines of a Republican Gomorrah than what they saw as, you know, a theocratic Canaan.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 10:56 AM
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9. This is not only limited to the evangelicals.
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 10:57 AM by olegramps
There is a similar movement in the Catholic Church. Opus Dei members hold the same views as held be the theocrats who have captured the Republican Party. Abortion is the one and only issue that determines if the Catholic hierarchy will support a candidate. The Catholic laity, however, is not like the their evangelical counterparts and do not necessarily follow the dictates of the bishops.

The bishops who attended Vatican II, which was called by the most progressive pope in the history of the church, John XXIII, were also far more liberal in the thinking then those who now dominate the church. John Paul II could be compared to Dobson in that he was in reality an enemy of the reforms of Vatican II and selected only those bishops who absolutely did not question any of the church's positions including contraception, pre-marital sex, celibacy, homosexuality, etc. and most especially abortion which has become the lighting rod issue that dominates every other issue.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:40 PM
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14. There is overlap between the groups such as Brownback in Opus Dei & The Family
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9178374/gods_senator

Although Brownback converted to Catholicism in 2002 through Opus Dei, an ultraorthodox order that, like the Fellowship, specializes in cultivating the rich and powerful, the source of much of his religious and political thinking is Charles Colson, the former Nixon aide who served seven months in prison for his attempt to cover up Watergate. A "key figure," says Brownback, in the power structure of Christian Washington, Colson is widely acknowledged as the Christian right's leading intellectual. He is the architect behind faith-based initiatives, the negotiator who forged the Catholic-evangelical unity known as co-belligerency, and the man who drove sexual morality to the top of the movement's agenda.

"When I came to the Senate," says Brownback, "I sought him out. I had been listening to his thoughts for years, and wanted to get to know him some."

The admiration is mutual. Colson, a powerful member of the Fellowship, spotted Brownback as promising material not long after he joined the group's cell for freshman Republicans. At the time, Colson was holding classes on "biblical worldview" for leaders on Capitol Hill, and Brownback became a prize pupil. Colson taught that abortion is only a "threshold" issue, a wedge with which to introduce fundamentalism into every question. The two men soon grew close, and began coordinating their efforts: Colson provides the strategy, and Brownback translates it into policy. "Sam has been at the meetings I called, and I've been at the meetings he called," Colson says.

Colson's most admirable work is Prison Fellowship, a ministry that offers counseling and "worldview training" to prisoners around the world. Many of his programs receive federal funding, and Brownback is sponsoring a bill that would make it easier for more government dollars to go to faith-based programs such as Colson's. Social scientists debate whether such programs work, but politicians consider them undeniable evidence of the existence of compassionate conservatism.

And yet compassionate conservatism, as Colson conceives it and Brownback implements it, is strikingly similar to plain old authoritarian conservatism. In place of liberation, it offers as an ideal what Colson calls "biblical obedience" and what Brownback terms "submission." The concept is derived from Romans 13, the scripture by which Brownback and Colson understand their power as God-given: "Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation."



So there is overlap sometimes openly where they will support one another as long as their goals are the same but I am sure if they got close to their ultimate goal they would turn on each other with as much venom as they do with non-fundamentalists now.
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Crowman2009 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:59 PM
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12. Max Blumenthal is DA MAN! He's my favorite investigative reporter.
He also did a video on Pastor Hagee's "Christians united for Israel," among others.

Here is Max Blumenthal's youtube page and website:

http://www.youtube.com/user/mblumenthal

http://maxblumenthal.com/
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 05:04 PM
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13. James Dobson made $1,000,000. off of the women that Ted Bundy killed.
He could NEVER have made that off of Bundy himself.

It WAS the fact that Bundy killed those women that made him such a hot property. Think of all of those folks buying that tape to "get saved" but REALLY it's about . . . .

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 06:56 PM
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15. Blumenthal was on NPR the other day - transcript & excerpt of his book links
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 07:25 PM
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16. Kicking. Another deeper look into the hard right.
All parts were fascinating.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:10 PM
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17. "feeding delusion, victimhood and failure as a means through which to build a political movement"
Max Blumenthal vs. The Far Right "God" Of Dumb Hate
by Frank Schaeffer

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/max-blumenthal-vs-the-far_b_278800.html

Republican Gomorrah is the first book that actually "gets" what's happened to the Republican Party and in turn what the Republicans have done to our country. The usual Democratic Party and/or progressive "take" on the Republican Party is that it's been taken over by a far right lunatic fringe of hate and hypocrisy, combining as it does, sexual and other scandals with moralistic finger wagging. But Blumenthal explains a far deeper pathology: it isn't so much religion as the psychosis and sadomasochism of the losers now called "Republicans" that drives the party. And the "Christianity" that shapes so much "conservative" thinking now is anything but Christian. It's a series of deranged personality cults.

The Religious Right/Republicans have perfected the method of capturing people in personal crisis and turning them into far right evangelical/far right foot soldiers. This explains a great deal that otherwise, to outsiders, seems almost inexplicable -- the why and wherefore of "Deathers" "Birthers" et al. Blumenthal brilliantly sums up this pathology as:

...a culture of personal crisis lurking behind the histrionics and expressions of social resentment. This culture is the mortar that bonds leaders and followers together.


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In another time and place the despicable (and sometimes tragic figures) Blumenthal describes would be the leaders of, or the participants in, local lynch mobs, or the followers of the Ku Klux Klan. But today figures such as James Dobson, Pat Robertson, (the late) Jerry Falwell, Newt Gingrich, and Sarah Palin have led a resentment-driven second American revolution, not just against Democrats and progressives but against the United States of America itself. And this group of outsiders (in every sense of that word ) now control one of our major political parties.

As I explained to Blumenthal when he interviewed me, one of the reasons I left the far right movement in the 1980s was because I perceived it becoming the bedrock of anti-Americanism. The worst things got the better we right wing activists liked it. We loved crisis. We manufactured crisis! Crisis (public or personal) would force the country to embrace our radical solution: a radical turn to Old Testament law that would put homosexuals to death, see adulterers stoned at the city gates and so forth.

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That said Blumentha's case against the Religious Right is breathtakingly damning. What these folks want -- to destroy our pluralistic democracy and replace it with theocracy -- appears so far-fetched to most Americans that unfortunately their agenda is not taken seriously. The great service Blumenthal performs is to not only enlighten those who didn't grow up in the movement (as I did, sad to say) but to offer a genuine warning as to the seriousness of what these people will unleash if not stopped, then stopped again and again -- because they are here to stay. And they just happen to control the Republican Party!

Why should Blumenthal's book to be taken seriously? Take it from this former "insider" he knows what he's talking about. His thesis is less about politics than about the deviant psychology that people like Dobson have cashed in on by feeding delusion, victimhood and failure as a means through which to build a political movement. What Blumenthal reveals is the heart of the most dysfunctional and truly dangerous -- not to mention armed -- darkest reaches of our country.
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