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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:01 PM
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Bill Moyers Journal: Glenn Beck Fantasized On Air About Murdering Michael Moore In 2005
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 11:17 PM by Turborama
 
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The clip about him starts at 7:38. These psychotic ramblings were made back in 2005 and didn't get much press attention at the time. I'm sending it to Keith to see if he'll do anything with it.

From the uploader:

"We must remember that any oppression, any injustice, any hatred, is a wedge designed to attack our civilization."
Franklin D. Roosevelt

If FDR's quote is true, then inciting others to disrespect and hate in order to "win" is treasonous to America as it divides the USA from within. A House divided against itself will not stand.

Under current http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ056.107.pdf">United States law, set forth in the USA PATRIOT Act, acts of domestic terrorism are those which: "(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States."


Radio host Glenn Beck "thinking about killing Michael Moore"

May 18, 2005 6:04 pm ET

Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.

Beck's program is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks (owned by radio conglomerate Clear Channel Communications) on more than 160 radio stations across the country to an estimated audience of 6 million listeners. He has previously falsely accused Moore of "taking help and money from Hezbollah" and called Michael Berg, who criticized the Bush administration after his son Nick was beheaded in Iraq, "despicable" and "a scumbag."

From: http://mediamatters.org/research/200505180008




The complete piece & transcript: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html

The rest of the Journal after the YouTube clip stops.

RICK KARR: Muslims are some of Boortz's favorite targets.

NEAL BOORTZ:"It's Ramadan and Muslims in your workplace might be offended if they see you eating at your desk. Why? I guess it's because Muslims don't eat during the day during Ramadan. They fast during the day and eat at night. Sorta like cockroaches."

RICK KARR: Reverend Chris Buice says he's heard that kind of language before.

REVEREND CHRIS BUICE: If you look at the history of like situations like in Rwanda in 1994, the talk radio was a big part of leading to the conditions that created a genocide. The Hutu radio disc jockeys would call the Tutsi cockroaches. There's the sense that these aren't human beings. You know, they're not human beings with children or grandchildren. These are cockroaches. And when you hear in talk radio that liberals are evil, that they are traitors, that they are godless, that they are on the side of the terrorist. That's hate language. You don't negotiate with evil people. You don't live in community with people you consider to be traitors.

RICK KARR: Millions of Americans tune in to right-wing talk radio every day. Rory O'Connor is a media critic and a liberal himself who's written a book on shock-talkers. He says not all of these broadcasters use violent language. But they do all share a predilection for outrage and, he says, they're all practically addicted to constantly cranking up that outrage.

RORY O'CONNOR: Here's the real problem. When you shock somebody, if you come back the next time and you apply the same stimulus, it's not shocking any longer. It's already happened. So you have to ratchet it up a little bit. So how do you cut through? How do you really shock? I think that in order to continue to outrage, you have to constantly be jacking up the pressure. And ultimately, there's gonna be some deranged person out there in that audience who's gonna say, "You know what? That's a good idea. Let me act on that."

GLENN BECK:"The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment."

RICK KARR: Entertainers — that's what a lot of the shock-talkers call themselves. O'Connor says, maybe. But their words can motivate their listeners to act.

RORY O'CONNOR: Now first and foremost, we have to recognize that many of them are employed across multiple platforms. So they may say something on their radio show, but they may repeat it on their television show. They may then repeat it in their newspaper column. They may repackage the ideas into their best-selling books.

RICK KARR: Last year's debate over the immigration reform bill became a case study for Rory O'Connor. As arguments went back and forth, some of the language turned venomous. Hosts amped up their audiences' outrage with attacks on the bill's supporters and verbal assaults on immigrants.

NEAL BOORTZ: "I already have received at least one brilliant email today about the immigration problem <...>this person sent me an email, said when we defeat this illegal alien amnesty bill and when we yank out the welcome mat and they all start going back to Mexico, as a going-away gift let's all give them a box of nuclear waste<...>tell 'em it can, it'll heat tortillas."

BILL O'REILLY: "But do you understand what the NEW YORK TIMES wants? And the far left want? They want to break down the white, Christian male power structure which you are a part and so am I, and they want to bring in millions of foreign nationals to basically break down the structure that we have."

RICK KARR:O'Connor says the result stunned Washington.

RORY O'CONNOR: There were massive numbers of emails and letters and phone calls. You know, senators said, they had to have two or three people in their office answering the calls. That was all that they could do. They were inundated. And beyond that, how do you get their attention? Well, I tell you. If you send those threatening letter to a senator's home, that gets his attention pretty fast.

RICK KARR: Florida Republican Senator Mel Martinez got a threatening letter at home. North Carolina Republican Richard Burr got a threatening call at his office. South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham told the NEW YORK TIMES that he and others had received threats, too. The TIMES also reported that a mass email opposing the bill suggested that its supporters needed to be "taken out by ANY MEANS". The bipartisan support collapsed, the bill died and right-wing talk-radio hosts took credit.

RORY O'CONNOR: This is evidence of their vast power. I mean, you know, President George Bush was pulling out all his political capital to get immigration reform passed. Trent Lott was backing him up with everything he had. And guess what? The President and the Republican leadership and Harry Reid and the Democratic leadership, they all lost. And they lost to a bunch of radio jocks.

RICK KARR: Right-wing talk radio hosts usually reserve their ad hominem attacks for liberal figures. Jim Quinn has his own name for the National Organization for Women.

JIM QUINN: "The National Organization for Whores, they're whores for liberal politics in general, and they were whores for Bill Clinton in particular."

RICK KARR: Glenn Beck tried to connect former Vice President Al Gore's efforts against global warming with Nazism.

GLENN BECK: "What was the first thing they did to get people to exterminate the Jews? Now, I'm not saying that anybody's going to, you know, Al Gore's not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however(...)you got to have an enemy to fight. And when you have an enemy to fight, then you can unite the entire world behind you, and you seize power. That was Hitler's plan. His enemy: the Jew. Al Gore's enemy, the U.N.'s enemy: global warming."

RICK KARR: During this year's Democratic primaries, Rush Limbaugh urged his listeners to vote for Senator Hillary Clinton to foster division in the Democratic Party in the hope that that would lead to violence in the streets of Denver. He called it "Operation Chaos".

RUSH LIMBAUGH:"This is about chaos, this is why it is called Operation Chaos(...)the dream end, if people say what is your exit strategy. The dream end is this keeps up to the convention. And that we have a replay of Chicago 1968, with burning cars, protests, fires, literal riots and all of that. That's the objective here."

RICK KARR: American politics has always been a rough game. But political scientist Jeffrey Feldman, who's written a book on the effects of angry political rhetoric, says this is different.

JEFFREY FELDMAN: Our system is a deliberative democracy. And that deliberative democracy depends on a certain kind of talk, a certain conversation in order to function well. What right-wing rhetoric does, when it reaches that violent pitch, is it undermines that particular conversation, such that the focus of political debate, becomes increasingly hamstrung by fear, and the ability of citizens to engage in the basic act of civics becomes gummed up. That conversation breaks down.

RICK KARR: Knoxville pastor Chris Buice agrees.

REVEREND CHRIS BUICE: When you blame all your problems on some minority group then everyone else is exonerated. We exonerate ourselves. We don't have to look at ourselves to see what sort of ways we contribute to the problems of the world. We don't have to examine ourselves, to see what we are doing that is helping to create the problems that we're so concerned about.

RICK KARR: In other words, Buice says, angry talk-radio rhetoric simply sets up scapegoats for society's problems. And ever since Jim David Adkisson walked into his church and opened fire he can't help but wonder whether that might lead to more violence.

REVEREND CHRIS BUICE:I just think a lot of people are hurling insults from the safety of television studios, the safety of radio studio, the safety of cyberspace, which they would not throw if they had to stand right next to a person and look in their face and say the same thing. And so that's a void in our community, the chance to be in the same room and to have these exchanges and remember the humanity of the person on the other side.

BILL MOYERS:We may never know what finally triggered the killer's rage, unless he chooses at his trial or later to tell us. But not for a moment do I think any of the talk show hosts mentioned by the police would have wished it to happen.

We asked several radio hosts to come on this broadcast and talk about the story; they either declined or didn't return our calls. The issue of course is not their right to say anything they want on the air. The First Amendment guarantees their free speech as it does mine. Government shouldn't be the arbiter of what the Bill of Rights leaves to one's own sense of fair play. Watching that report, however, I was reminded of a story from folk lore about the tribal elder telling his grandson about the battle the old man was waging within himself. He said, "My son it is between two wolves. One is an evil wolf: anger, envy, sorrow, greed, self-pity, guilt, resentment, lies, false pride, superiority and ego. The other is the good wolf: joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, generosity, truth, compassion and faith." The boy took this in for a few minutes and then asked, "Which wolf won?" His grandfather answered, "The one I feed." So, too, America's public life. The wolf that wins is the wolf we feed. Media provides the fodder.

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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:13 PM
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1. Gonna watch
:beer:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:13 PM
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2. Murdoch needs to yank this guy before Fox gets sued big time
Beck is setting Fox News up for a gigantic civil lawsuit if any of Pelosi's family, Moore's family or more are now victims of his inciting death wishes against them.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:38 PM
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3. WHEN are the men in white coats going to show up and take this maniac away?
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 11:42 PM by BrklynLiberal
The best statement made there....

REVEREND CHRIS BUICE:I just think a lot of people are hurling insults from the safety of television studios, the safety of radio studio, the safety of cyberspace, which they would not throw if they had to stand right next to a person and look in their face and say the same thing. And so that's a void in our community, the chance to be in the same room and to have these exchanges and remember the humanity of the person on the other side.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:40 PM
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4. # 8. n/t
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:01 AM
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5. Obviously you don't understand that the Patriot Act is never to be used against RWers. You must have
missed the teensy, tiny, fine print.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:14 AM
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6. That FDR quote is so relevant to these times.
I so look forward to Murdoch and Ailes losing their media monopolies. It has to happen.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:31 AM
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7. K & R
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:45 AM
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8. Glenn Beck was always like this. That's why it was a shock
Edited on Tue Sep-08-09 03:46 AM by sabrina 1
when CNN hired him. There was outrage at the time and many people wrote to CNN complaining about the decision. When asked why they did not listen to 'liberals', the producer said something like 'they don't yell loud enough'.

Beck's ratings on CNN were very low. They kept him on way past the time when they should have let him go. I don't know why these so-called millions that are now supposedly watching him, weren't watching him on CNN. They got rid of him finally with numbers so low, it was getting ridiculous to keep him.

But he behaved himself on CNN and was hardly recognizable as the rabid lunatic he was on his radio show. Fox claims his ratings are high, and if that's the case, they'll keep him. Even more so if he gets the left angry.

I wish people would just ignore him. Let him fade away into oblivion. He'll probably end up in a mental institution anyhow, which will not diminish his popularity with the far right wingnuts.

It's sad that these fanatics have managed to get so much power over politics. Some new rules regarding hate speech need to be put in place. What they do is not free speech. Michael Reagan asking his audience to arm themselves and execute a liberal blogger, Beck fantasizing about killing Michael Moore, this is NOT free speech. It is criminal and should be treated that way before someone gets hurt.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:36 PM
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9. In Holland, this is called 'hate speech' and 'incitement to violence'...
and all those people (Savage, Beck, Reagan and all the others) would be prosecuted.

That is: if they could actually get on radio or tv. Because I guarantee you, no Dutch radio or tv station would allow that kind of talk for even a minute!

When will the American government finally put a stop to this?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:50 PM
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10. How interesting that the scurrilous quotes about poor folk don't engender liberal rage.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 04:45 PM
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11. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Turborama.
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