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Fri Sep-11-09 01:26 PM
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Thom Hartmann - Is Global warming the cause of the wildfires? |
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Fri Sep-11-09 01:48 PM
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1. I thought it was determined this was arson...n/t |
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Fri Sep-11-09 02:05 PM
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2. Yes, but fire spreads faster in areas under drought. |
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The vegetation is dry in southern CA from years of drought.
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Fri Sep-11-09 03:16 PM
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4. That part of the forest hadn't burned in 60 years. |
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It wasn't the drought, it was simply time for it to burn.
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Fri Sep-11-09 05:47 PM
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It is sad that people perpetuate nonsense, when they don't know what they are talking about. http://www.californiachaparral.com/chaparralmyths.htmlBTW - did you see the 60 minutes firefighter program?
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Fri Sep-11-09 10:29 PM
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8. I live less than 10 miles from where the fire started. |
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I've walked through that forest many times. That forest floor was covered with over a foot of old pine needles and other detritus, and it's been that way for the 20 years I've lived here. Oh, and most of what burned was way above the chaparral line - a ponderosa pine forest with several 10,000 ft mountains.
I'm not saying the drought and global warming weren't factors, but they weren't the only factors. It was ready to burn.
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Fri Sep-11-09 02:55 PM
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3. Not the cause - wild fires are endemic to southern california, the ecosystem |
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has developed around regular, consistent wild fires - but certainly a contributor to their virulence.
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Fri Sep-11-09 03:28 PM
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5. Hesitating to post this as it might get dungeoned |
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But what is causing all these droughts and fires?
We in Northern Calif. had storm clouds in our area all last weekend. We also had the flights overhead spraying the chem trails and Golly gee, surprise! surprise! the clouds went away. Then the storm clouds formed yesterday. Same thing occurred.
When I water the garden, I water for over forty mionutes. The next morning (fourteen hours later!) everything is bone dry -even though the humidity has been in the 60 to 70% region of the barometer.
Why is every things so dry - even well watered gardens?
What is going on? Why the unnatural droughts?
By the way, these planes are not commercial air liners. They crest a local hilltop clearing the hill by only 1,000 feet por so. This means they are at the altitude of around 5,000 feet. Moments later the plane is so high up I can hardly see it - 30,000 feet or more. Than some five miles later, the plane has descended so that it barely clears that group of hills. Again, at that point its altitude is in the 4500 to 6500 foot level.
What is going on here!?!
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Fri Sep-11-09 05:49 PM
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7. Global climate change. |
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This is a severe severe (D-2) drought year.
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Sat Sep-12-09 02:41 PM
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9. I agree to the term of Global Warming - but my point is |
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What is REALLY causuing the droughts.
Because of volcanic activity in the early 1990's, both methane and carbon dioxide levels were tapering off. And although by the year 2000, carbon dioxide levels were again rather high, I am curious as to why the "tipping point' suddenly occurred at the same point in time when the chem trail flights were beginning to be noticed world wide. (BTW, my article on weather modification, circa 2003, was read into the United Nations records on the subject of modern warfare and weather moduification.)
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Sat Sep-12-09 06:48 PM
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10. K&R. Interesting talk with Rolf Skar of Greenpeace about the complexities of |
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Edited on Sat Sep-12-09 06:48 PM by Overseas
forest fires-- not just the different causes of forest fires but what conditions make it easier for them to spread out of control.
Thank you.
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