TYT: Is The Upcoming SC Ruling More Important Than Healthcare Reform?

[ihavenobias]

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Note: After you watch the above video make sure you check out this important interview:
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Summary: Cenk explains the terrifying Supreme Court case that could destroy whatever democracy we thought we had left (I *wish* that was hyperbole). You can . And yes, I made the video title more provocative. Because if you think getting real reform (on any issue, including healthcare) is hard now, the Supreme Court could make it impossible in the future.

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[fascisthunter]

1. we may just need a revolution

[FiveGoodMen]

8. At this point, I think it's our only hope

And an incredibly faint one at that.

[omega minimo]

14. the bleatings of the lameos who never want to take action when it actually matters........

[midnight]

2. Another example of money trumping peace.......

[PatSeg]

3. A big K&R

I have a feeling we won't be hearing about this in the MSM.

[ihavenobias]

13. 99% of the time that's true.

Maybe MSNBC primetime. And shockingly CNN's Rick Sanchez had a great segment with Bernie Sanders the other day that mentioned OpenSecrets.org.

[MrsCorleone]

15. Bernie Sanders and Rick Sanchez talk about this on the teevee machine.

Surprised the hell out of me.

linky

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x369022

[BREMPRO]

4. Ironic that the right complained about "activist judges" and now they have the most

overtly activist justices appointed to the SUPREME COURT! All the concerns about Robert are now revealing themselves in his unprecedented activism. Corporate power is the only goal, not justice. Kudos to McCain for calling out the court for "naivety" and being misinformed. I hope we have the best lawyers in the country arguing against changing this decades long ban on corporate money in elections. You KNOW the ones arguing for it are clever bastards.

Roberts is a fascist activist turd. He referred to the government as "big brother" this week during an argument.

Justice Kennedy better vote against this or we are screwed.

[Seldona]

5. K&R

The attacks are coming hard and fast this week. Holy shit. I am suffering from outrage burnout I think.

You have to give them one thing. At least they are consistent. Unfortunately they are consistent ideologues.

[mascarax]

6. Your question is valid

Because if the Corporations totally take over the elections...

[fubarsnafu]

7. This is incredible

Heard about this but didnt realise the impact it will have.
Hell no! I've been totally into the HC debate (hook,line & sinker) thinking we (the left) finally had A LEADER in the Whitehouse. Ha...the jokes on me.

[20score]

9. We've sunk pretty damn low. Time to break out the shovels. K&R

Damn!

[pleah]

10. K& R

[JDPriestly]

11. I wish I could recommend this 150 times.

A frustrated voting populace is not a good thing, and that is what we will have if the restraints on corporate bribery of our lawmakers is allowed to increase. We already have enough of it.

Overturning the restraints on corporate and union donations will fuel an even more likely class war. If you think the Tea-Baggers at the town halls were out of control. Think what we would have if there were no restraints on corporate and union participation in our government. The excessive influence of corporations in particular is just horrible. If John Roberts wants to encourage the revival of a strong and angry union movement, giving corporate donations a free reign would be the ideal way. Americans are no longer as uninformed as they were at the time of Tammany and the outright buying of votes. But, here we go again. The increase in corporate and union donations directly to politicians will divide the country even worse. May I remind Justice Roberts that the wealthy class may have more money than the poor, but they have many fewer numbers than the poor. This is just asking for trouble.

[GivePeaceAchance]

12. I don't know if it's smart for them to go there more and more people understand what the ruling ...

will mean. It would be like the 2000 ruling all over again do they really want that on their resume for the rest of history. Those that do this should get their names written in stone for selling off what was left of democracy if they do. Execessive corporate power has killed enough people already, if they sincerely want a future the families that won't be exploited by unregulated big business, they do have it hung in the balance of whether they do the right thing this time. Great to know that Sotomayor is likely to vote for democracy.

[DissedByBush]

16. Tough one for this specific case

Free speech vs. campaign finance. I'm sensitive to the issues of corruption of the electoral system through money but I'm kind of rabid when it comes to freedom of speech.

[ihavenobias]

17. The Bottom Line

Allowing corporations and other groups to pour even MORE money into the system in effect devalues the free speech of everyone else who doesn't share the same resources. It's basically saying that we want a system of proportional representation, i.e. representation in proportion to how much money you spend.

That fundamentally undermines our democracy and should be 100% unacceptable.

[20score]

18. Well said!

[DissedByBush]

29. I have the same problem with the corporations

But consider a person wants to make a film, a definite free speech issue.

He got the financial backing from a corporation to make it.

Does he now suddenly have no right to free speech?

If the film were not about Clinton nobody would be trying to force him to give up those financial backers, who may have only backed the film, and thus enabled his freedom of speech in this medium, on an assurance of anonymity. This places a suppressing factor on freedom of speech, something that is also not acceptable.

I don't know what the solution is, but whatever it is had better be careful of treading on the First Amendment.

[olegramps]

25. Just when is a corporation a cirtizen whose freedom of speech is being silenced?

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."
Thomas Jefferson

[elleng]

19. IMPORTANT Argument on CSpan Saturday at 7 est.

Everyone should watch, to understand Supreme Court process and members.

[jgraz]

The right-wing coup of 2000 is almost complete

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[jgraz]

20. The right-wing coup of 2000 is almost complete

[Xicano]

21. This isn't political activism!

Lets call it what it really is - a coup!

[yellerpup]

22. The Constitution says, "We the people..."

Corporations are not addressed in the Constitution, they can't vote, they can't enlist in the military, they can't get married (gay or straight), they can't drive a car, start drinking when they turn 21, and they are not counted in the census. Corporations are not citizens they are legal entities whose rights are enumerated elsewhere and NOT in the Constitution.

K&R! :dem: :dem: :dem:

[Douglas Carpenter]

23. kick and recommend!! a very disturbing possibility

[olegramps]

24. Roberts is a fascist Opus Dei freak.

There are Strong indications that he is a member of one of the most radical secret societies that is determined to create a theocratic state. This secret organization was formed to put Franco in power and totally backed the powerful industrialists in Spain.

No one would listen to these accusations when Roberts was put up for the nomination. I believer that he is an brain-washed freak just like the master spy Robert Hanssen who was as a member of Opus Dei and attended mass daily. Hanssen's family, like Roberts family, was presented as the ideal family with six children all duly brain-washed in Catholic Opus Dei schools.

These people are far more dangerous than any red-neck hillbilly because they are intelligent people with superior training who have been carefully recruited and have massive support to place them in powerful positions. Opus Dei has powerful people in corporations that would welcome this ruling as a God send to bring about their conquest. They would be able to buy every politician and warp every campaign to put into office the most radical conservative. As an insight into their mentality their massive New York headquarters has separate parking and entrances for males and females. The females in the cult perform menial tasks in a throw back to the Dark Aged mentality of male superiority.

So if you wonder just why Roberts is pushing for this radical change, you may very well have an answer.

[Kajsa]

26. This is more than judicial activism,

considering the impartiality the SC Justices vow to uphold,
this borders on judicial malpractice!

Kudos to both McCain and Feingold for fighting this.

K&R

[ejbr]

27. This is what happens when you allow someone

to steal two presidential elections.

[theFrankFactor]

28. Critical Mass? Are We There Yet? Let's Start a Plan of Action!

Critical Mass? Are We There Yet? Let's Start a Plan of Action!

Since Americans surrendered most of their protections to revolt we also face new challenges there. The "Patriot" Act has -as planned- given corporations that run the United States government even more power to murder, torture and disappear American citizens.

American's are unfortunately addicted and plugged into debt and over-extension to such a degree that some of the best options to help choke corporate interests will requite very large sacrifices of many of us.

One place to kick 'em where it hurts is BUYcotting. These people understand one thing and one thing only --GREED--.

AS you may know, many of what were perceived as Progressive and Liberal organizations are also in on the invasion and attack on America by Corporate Terrorists. We need to organize in a manner that does not place our assets in the position of being stolen.

If you can spare some of your time, please join me and other like minded Liberals and Progressives at http://TheFrankFactor.com

Kudos to Cenk for being a voice outside of the propaganda!
-=Frank