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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:44 AM
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CNN: There Is A "Dark Fringe" To These Tea Party Events
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 10:47 AM by Turborama
 
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The thing all these loons are missing is that if there were plans to lock them all up in "death camps" these protests would have provided a perfect opportunity to round them all up. Also, has anyone seen news coverage of this guy walking around with an AK47 and where it was?


CNN All Platform Journalist Jim Spellman traveled with the Tea Party Express as it made its way across the country these past two weeks. It was a colorful trip, full of passionate opinions - to say the least. Here are some of the highlights for you.

(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every - an everyday Tea Partier is an American citizen that is frustrated with the direction the country's going -

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are truly concerned about the - the heartbeat of our country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're taking our liberties away. It's tyranny. It's a Gestapo-type (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's too much involvement in the government. We can take care of ourselves.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't - I didn't vote for him, but I didn't necessarily have anything against what he was saying. He gets an office and it's like all of the things that I was kind of afraid of really happened.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They can have my country when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I think their agenda is to slowly but surely take away everything that we worked for and everything the Constitution stands for. Are we (INAUDIBLE). Kill (ph) the bill! (INAUDIBLE) Free the bill! Free the bill! (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Officers that he picked are all either communists or socialists.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I really don't really want to be a - a guinea pig for the experiment they have with the population control.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's going after our kids and try to indoctrinate them into a national defense army, and we're not going to let him do it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're kind of the ultimate check and balance, I suppose.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't want a revolution. I don't want a civil war. I would hate for that to happen. But it is a possibility. It's there as an option - as a last resort should our government turn on its own people.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

LEMON: That's just a sampling of what our Jim Spellman heard as he rode along with the Tea Party Express, and he joins me now from Washington. You see him there. Was that most extreme of what you've heard or was it pretty typical?

JIM SPELLMAN, CNN ALL PLATFORM JOURNALIST: Well, the gentleman there with the AK-47, that was definitely an extreme. We saw people wearing handguns from time to time. But really, running through this whole sort of subculture that's developed around these tea parties, it - it's a - a bit of a - a dark undercurrent you have the - the bulk of the people that are there for low taxes, less government control, but there really is a - is an element that's got these kind of outlandish conspiracy theories about death camps and - and about the, you know, this takeover, people comparing President Obama to Hitler. That really is a sizable thread (ph). It's not just a couple of people on the edges.

But one of the big questions, you know, will be can this movement go forward while maintaining this kind of element on the edges. You know, we don't know, but, Don, it's a - it's a - it's a - there's some heaviness out there with this.

LEMON: Yes. And you know, as you were talking I'm looking at it. I saw the guns, I saw the, you know, socialist with the face, the red lips and what have you. Here's what I want to ask you. At the - at the tea parties or these rallies that you have been going to, did you ever see any people there who were explaining what's in - what's actually in the bill to the people at the rallies?

SPELLMAN: You know, a little bit, more with sort of talking points. But what you hear from the stage is a lot different than what you hear in the crowd. On the stage they are talking about small government and health care and such, cap and trade (ph), things like that, but in the crowd what you are really hear is - is really a different message, when you get out and talk to the people. You know, it's a much sort of darker thing where they really, really feel that - that the country is going in the wrong way, in a really serious...

LEMON: Explain to me, what do you mean by a much more darker thing? Talk to me about that.

SPELLMAN: Well, I mean, one of the things that we heard over and over again is that - is that it's sort of the - the death panels thing, taken to several degrees past that where the president is going to set up these - these death camps where they're going to do forced sterilization, and - and that the government is taking over the internet to stifle, you know, speech and that there's going to be forced vaccinations.

These are not things that after 30-some Tea Parties, this is not one or two people. This is people that we heard over and over and over and over again - You know, really, there's just so much sort of disinformation or misinformation out there that it really creates a - a significant part. You didn't see as much of it here today in Washington, but in these towns across America that we went, it - it really is out there, Don, and it's - it's - it's - you know, it gave me pause more than once, going across the country with the Tea Party Express.

LEMON: CNN All Platform Journalist Jim Spellman. He was on the - the bus or on the Tea Party Express from Sacramento all the way to D.C. Thank you so much for your reporting, sir.


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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:52 AM
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1. Scary.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:52 AM
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2. It's all like the rumor that is passed around the room
What you get on the other side is completely warped from what was started.

This is just an extreme case of it spread by a propaganda machine with a nut job who started the rumor and is inciting the changed message on the other end.


:crazy:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:54 AM
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3. Jim Spellman deserves some kind of award
Any halfway normal human who manages to endure the teabag expres across the entire country to get a story has definitely gone above and beyond.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:55 AM
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4. Hey is'nt an AK-47
a commie gun?:freak:

Therefore: the guy must be a commie!(according to freeper logic) :rofl:
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:02 AM
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5. Dark Fringe? More like Dark Heart.... Afraid of dark skin.
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 11:03 AM by AlbertCat
"racism straight up"
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:03 AM
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6. I place the blame for this squarely at the feet of John McCain
for not shutting the rhetoric down and putting a leash on the ditz from Alaska. She whipped these loons into a frenzy and he stood by and watched. Now, they are off whatever meds they may have been taking last fall and off the charts with this nonsense.

If any attempts are made on the life of our President (or his family!) it will be McCain's baby.

I can only hope that Sasha and Malia are being shielded from this insanity.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:06 AM
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7. These have to be the stupidest people in the country...
their ignorance has risen to such toxic levels, they are a threat to this country.
Ultimately truth will win out but its gonna get real ugly. Unfortunate.
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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:10 PM
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21. If they were protesting under Pres Bush, they'd be locked in free speech zones
Remember them? Fenced off areas far away from the main event where anyone that wanted to protest the president were forced to go so Bush wouldn't be bothered by seeing any protests?

Couldn't even wear a t-shirt to an event that had anything negative about Bush or his policies on it. You were forced to leave or arrested.

My, how quickly people have forgotten.



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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 09:40 AM
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40. They are stupid in the sense of not realizing they are being used and misled.
Their "crime" is believing every paranoid thing Glenn Beck says. If I believed what they believe, I'd be terrified.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:13 AM
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8. I listened to this yesterday with great interest.
It must have been difficult for Jim to digest the craziness he heard and observed. Still, he had to appear unbiased to gain the baggers trust so they would agree to talk to him.
After he did digest what he saw and heard, he said it gave him "pause". I took his word pause to mean "scared". I believe what he witnessed scared him.
He would be bleeped on air if he said they're fucking bat-shit, crazy, racist lunatics.
K&R
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:18 AM
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9. Dark fringe?
More like a blanket of doom.
Nuckin futs. All of them.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:21 AM
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10. kick and rec nt
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:28 AM
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11. today's mainstream of the modern Republican Party
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:29 AM
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12. Unfortunately, the prime time media and the sunday shows don't talk about this.
The media perpetuates the myth that these people are just sane people protesting fiscal policy.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:22 PM
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24. exactly!
That's why I perked up to see if Jim was going to pull the covers back and expose the ugliness that lurks. No one else has.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:31 AM
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13. K&R
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:33 AM
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14. kikanrek
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:41 AM
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15. It's not a "fringe". It's the base of the rep. party
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 11:46 AM by dgibby
I'm glad to see this type of reporting, though. I think some in the media are finally waking up to the fact that these are violent, dangerous people intent on overthrowing this government.

This is going to get much uglier before it's all over. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. They'll keep acting out until the govt. is forced to take action, then blame the govt. and say, "See, we told you so!". Instead of suicide by cop, it's going to be suicide by govt., but it's still going to be suicide. Unfortunately, they're going to take a lot of us with them, I fear.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:52 AM
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16. .
"UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's going after our kids and try to indoctrinate them into a national defense army, and we're not going to let him do it. "

knock knock
who's there?

2001-1/20/2009

must have been in a complete stupor the last 8 years
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:53 AM
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17. There's some heaviness out there with this. Good point
understated. They want us all to fail, so they can then man tabla rosa. Their way, or death panel.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:55 AM
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18. sigh
i WISH we could have forced sterilization of the stupids.
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:01 PM
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19. All of them... loons!
"Also, has anyone seen news coverage of this guy walking around with an AK47 and where it was?"

I think the correspondent might be referring to the dude who attended a tea-bagging session in Arizona bearing a holstered gun and what looked like an assault rifle hanging from his shoulder. There might been others, but I clearly recall the guy in Arizona. Also, if it is the same dude, I later read that he's a follower of that crazy preacher in Arizona who has openly prayed for the deaths of Obama (and I think his entire family) during one or more of his Sunday morning worship services.

What I also find interesting about some of the tea baggers is their odd belief that 1) only they own guns, and 2) only they will return fire without hesitation if fired upon.

These people are truly delusional.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:53 PM
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29. No, I was referring to the wacko at 1:17 with the AK47
The nutcase with the AR15 you mention is in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4-JieEI-0Q

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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:07 PM
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35. My bad
Thanks for the clarification.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:03 PM
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20. Well, if we're going to have "forced sterilization", these ass holes.................
.............is a good place to start. Jesusfuckingchrist, is there a "brain plague" out there that's infecting our citizens with IQ's under 75??? After 200+ yrs, looks like this is the beginning of the end of this country.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:37 PM
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28. The tea bag crowd is all for forced sterilizations
They support it as long as the only people being sterilized are black or Hispanic women on welfare.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 03:37 PM
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34. You got that right.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:11 PM
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22. "And I think their agenda is to slowly but surely take away everything that we worked for.."
"And I think their agenda is to slowly but surely take away everything that we worked for and everything the Constitution stands for."

Hmmm
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:11 PM
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23. I know there are a lot of people here at DU that don't like guns................
............But, this shit is really passed the "funny" and is very quickly becoming dangerous. I hope I'm wrong, but I think that we are going to start seeing violence popping up here and there very soon. It's really starting to get scary. Lock and load!!!
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:33 PM
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25. Very smart people !
These same people still believe the US found WMD in Iraq:evilgrin:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:33 PM
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26. Stupid. Fucking. Idiots.
Pathetic.
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dugaresa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:36 PM
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27. it is shocking when you encounter complete stupidity, gullibility and illogical anger combined
and the media helped create this situation.

when you encounter people like the teabaggers that you realize how Nazi Germany came to be. When you have the dejected loser rabble who decided that everyone else was to blame for their problems and they cling to a central leader who just foments them into something large and disturbing. The worst part is when you have even normal people start to find its easier not to think and follow the crowd.


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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:34 PM
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30. Teabaggers are late to the party, and they drank the wrong cool aide.
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 01:50 PM by windoe
1. Bush&Co put fascist laws in place, making a few people obscenely wealthy.

2. President Obama gets elected and HE takes the rap for what Bush did. These rich people have bought off the M$M in order to keep this illusion going, in order to cover up their agenda.

3. Teabaggers are people who have now awakened to all the crimes that Bush&Co perpetrated, they just woke up--and are being manipulated to blame THIS administration. What they complain about is real, they just having a delayed reaction.

4. The illusion is easy to maintain because of the inherent racism in this part of the population, so the crimes go on, and the oldest and most lethal wound is scratched open to be fought all over again, keeping us divided and further conquered.

These people are now being fed all kinds of crazy shit to keep them whipped into a frenzy. I think the idea is to really piss of the left too, so we can just fight amongst ourselves, they are destabilizing the population in order to weaken us. Our country is weak right now, and are being fed hate and intolerant propaganda. What could be the motivation for this --what kind of end game are they playing??


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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:43 PM
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31. Insane and scary.
But then these are also the people that will help the Democrats remain in power by moving the far right into the middle right.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:47 PM
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32. i agree with obamacare.....
death camps for all those who believe this shit!
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SharksBreath Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:54 PM
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33. The Reporter looked like he was freaked out.
Like he walked into the dark side of the human's mind.

A Matrix of stupidity.

Like he felt dirty.

Like he needed a shower to wash his brain of all the imbecility he must have heard from the imbecile's.

Frightened even.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:24 PM
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36. K & R n/t
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:19 PM
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37. Glenn beck has stirred up this hate and fear
He's got them seeing the Pink Elephant in the Room
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 09:08 PM
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38. if that doesn't WAKE YOU UP to their fascist uprising before their real attempts, then nothing will
it's the start of a coup - they should have captured video of all of them who were protesting Obama with violent undertones. Why not, there wasn't that many there that day - a few dozen employees could have captured video of all of the worst. They need watched - their dangerous & unstable.


READ THE BILL

READ THE BILL!

READ THE BILL!!!


whatta lunatic
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:50 AM
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42. READ THE BILL! READ THE BILL! READ THE BILL!
"Read the bill!"

The mantra of every right wing mouth-breather who HASN'T read the bill.

One thing I wish somebody would do is go to one of these teabagger circlejerks and just walk through the crowd with a camera and microphone doing interviews. When they start in with their "read the bill" nonsense, just have the guy ask them to cite where, SPECIFICALLY, in the bill it says the things they believe. They, of course, won't know, but will respond with the only thing they know: "Read the bill. It's in there." At which point the interviewer will reach into a backpack or some other kind of satchel and pull out an actual copy of the bill, hand it to the person and say, "Flip to the page where it says that." Then just sit back and watch the dumbfounded expressions.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 03:13 PM
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43. "she's choppin' broccoli... she's choppin' ooh!"
exactly - they will have no response, and the very few who do will turn to the page where they will distort the words and say, you got your opinion and I got mine - as one of my old friends said to me... I said, well, if it doesn't say there's going to be panels telling doctors to cut off medical care to elderly, then it aint happenin!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:37 PM
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39. The GOP has a tiger by the tail
Question is, can they control it? I think they lost control a long time ago. There is some real deep-seeded hatred out there. Always been there.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:35 AM
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41. The whiteness of this demonstration is blinding. . .
white monkeys flinging poo-poo. Pathetic.

God help those fuckers if they actually hurt Obama or his family in any way.
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