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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:31 PM
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CNN's Campbell Brown & Guests Discuss The Racism That Was On Display At "Soreloserpalooza"
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 10:50 PM by Turborama
 
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Daily Beast's John Avlon nails it with, "there's a deal with the devil being made with these folks".

The difference between us protesting about Busch's legitimacy & against his policies and what they are saying is that we had/have facts on our side and they have a wacko conspiracy theory and O'rly Taiters. Also, Busch is an idiot and was a total embarrassment to the country every time he opened his mouth.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:34 PM
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1. Great question !!!
Hope the rest of the media keeps asking it (with one clarification)...

Is The Republican Tea Party Racism Going Too Far?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:36 PM
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2. Is there an "acceptable" level of racism?
I mean one that doesn't go too far?

:sarcasm:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:39 PM
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4. To white folks, yes: "acceptable level" means the level at which....
it becomes a permissible defense to say things like "it's just a few bad apples", and thereby ignore racism.

We're currently above that level, so we white folks are *forced* to actually acknowledge and talk about it - and there's nothing we hate more than that.

So the naturally the question arises: When can we get back to ignoring it?
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:30 AM
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15. "A few bad apples"???
Why is the GOP so fond of misquoting that old adage? The FULL saying is:

"A few bad apples SPOIL THE BARREL"


It doesn't sound so harmless now, eh? In other words, the old adage is in fact saying that a few kooks could potentially be the start of something much bigger and far more serious.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:54 AM
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16. Yah - we conveniently leave out that part of the saying.
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 12:55 AM by BlooInBloo
:P

And if anyone brings it up, we start blabbering about "reverse racism", and how you can't judge all white folks by the actions of "just a few bad apples", etc.

And then we go our merry way, allowing racism to continue to thrive.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:00 AM
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22. True true.
And it only takes one nut with a gun...
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:41 PM
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5. Good question.
And the answer is no, of course. I just copied and pasted that one and on second thoughts I'm going to retitle it.

At least the racism inherent in these protests is being raised on CNN, though.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:43 PM
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6. This was the first question that entered my mind, too.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:57 PM
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8. Well, if one is really polite about it...
No, not really. There needs to be more intolerance of intolerance.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:36 PM
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3. That deal was made in the 60s.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:50 PM
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7. Typical
The RW ALWAYS points the finger at the other side, and dodges the question. But The one guy was right, there is a civil war brewing. They lost the war the last time, and I remember working with southerners and hearing them say the south will "rise again'. Well, lets get on with it, and finish the job, I say.... bring it on! Seeing shit like the sign that said "We came unarmed... THIS TIME" and all the rebel flags flying, it's just a matter of time. But they better remember this, if these people do start some kind of armed insurrection, it will come out in the end that it was perpetrated by religious leaders, insurance companies, big business interests, talk show hosts, and politicians from the right. That is some cause to die for eh?
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IWannaKnowWhy Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:08 AM
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12. You might want to check your facts next time...
Because Lincoln was the FIRST Republican POTUS. Heck, the party was created to combat the spread of slavery from the Kansas-Nebraska Act. Their motto was "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men" or something similar so they were very much ANTI-slavery from the very beginning. Ironically enough, the Democrats of the era were primarily found in the Southern and border states.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:05 AM
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17. I know that..
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 02:06 AM by stuball111
I was talking about now, and not about slavery over 100 years ago. I'm talking about secession and it doesn't matter what party they supported back then, it's the ideology, and the fact that the Civil war was about profit, and money and the fact that corporate powers back then hated the fact that they would lose a labor pool of free workers, and have to start paying wages to blacks if they lost. Kinda similar to the southern anti union mindset that exists today, never mind racism. They didn't have talk show hosts back then. That was a hint of the time period I spoke of.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 03:16 AM
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19. +1, way over the heads of some. nt
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:39 AM
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26. The Republican Party of Lincoln's time has little resemblance to the Republican Party of today.
The modern shift of the Republican Party from pro (national) union, pro Constitution is almost complete. The Republican Party embraced the the old elemental Democratic elements or Dixiecrats in the 1950's that are the direct descendants of those who perpetrated succession. Modern Republicans may well pay the price for that mistake. As Republicans become more and more of a regional party the line has completely blurred from the origins of the Political Parties. Then is no longer now.
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:19 AM
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28. Hard to say what they are now...
The Party Of No seems to be a fit description. TPON? Hmmm They don't seem to be for anything, not even their own party!
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BillDU Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:58 PM
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9. K mart
The Klan is alive..
and as sick as ever.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 11:29 PM
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10. I like the eye twitch at 8:18 - very telling

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Left Coast2020 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:04 AM
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11. I know I may be in the minority on this, but my hope is.......
that these RW sickos keep it up--in small numbers of course. America is much smarter than many believe. Let these zombies and their racist hate mongering freaks continue to show the world how loonie the repug party is--which is essentially their party of association. They will have the repug party in the toilet fairly soon.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:18 AM
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13. Wow, good catch! I hadn't noticed that before you mentioned it
Very telling indeed. I wonder what kind of tattoos he's wearing under that shirt, too.
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 12:26 AM
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14. Joe "Tea Party" manages to let slip that...
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 12:26 AM by Puzzler
... about 40-50% of the US opposes Obama's agenda (at about 8:25 into the clip). Therefore, by his own admission, 50 to 60% are NOT opposed. So why is he trying to have the minority (by his own figures) impose their will on the majority?


(BTW, I do not for a second believe his "figures". I'm sure that the movement he represents is far, far smaller than he'll ever admit)
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 02:48 AM
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18. They don't care about being the minority, because they think...
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 02:58 AM by Zookeeper
they are right and the rest of us are wrong-headed tools of Satan. I don't think they are true fans of freedom or Democracy and feel no obligation to respect the results of a fair election.

(It's hard to accept that so many people have zero interest in reason, facts or civility.)
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 04:43 AM
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20. ...
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 05:25 AM by GivePeaceAchance
...
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 05:55 AM
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21. Anyone seen any footage of the organizers
of these events rebuking their members for carrying those signs? He said they addressed them. How so?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:59 AM
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23. there's no footage because I presume it never happened,
the reality is that there was no person of color in that crowd, except for police and reporters, and I"VE LOOKED.

They can pretend its not racism when being interviewed, but we all know the ugly truth here -- the movement is USING racists as shock troops.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:07 AM
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24. Correct.
I don't believe there was any attempt made by the organizers (or attending politicians) to disassociate themselves from the so-called fringe aspect of this movement.

I don't know why a person of color would want to get involved with a group that advocates taking this country back 100 years. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they know what was going on at that time, and ask how can that not be a racial sentiment?
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:26 AM
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25. These people are comparable to Hitler's Brown Shirts.
When they have been exploited to do their corporate master's bidding to destroy Obama, just as they did to German's Jews, they will be abandoned just like the Brown Shirts were in the Night of the Long Knives. These mobs of ignoramuses are the perfect "Useful Idiots" that can be totally controlled and manipulated at will. There is always a dangerous element in every society that can be transformed into a mob. These are the people with the same mentality as those who were whipped up to lynch Blacks. That is what this reminds me of. A Southern KKK lynching by racists.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 07:55 AM
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27. Head of the nail meets the hammer, 100% correct
Whenever firearms comes to a protest (Hatefest) it is a particularly dangerous mob. For the most part the Brownshirts used clubs and bricks, these idiots are raising the stakes.
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