MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan Interviews Michael Moore, Alludes To Why He Left CNBC

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC Morning Meeting w/ DYLAN RATIGAN - Sept. 25, 2009: During Sept. 25, 2009's edition of Morning Meeting, host Dylan Ratigan interviewed filmmaker Michael Moore on his new movie 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' during which the MSNBC host made an interesting admission.

RATIGAN: Why do you think American politicians were willing to change the rules of banking to allow this happen?

MOORE: Because those politicians receive tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars from these banking institutions. You know what else they get? When they leave Congress?

RATIGAN: Mm-mmnh.

MOORE: They get a job. Yes, they often go to work for these guys. Or sometimes if they are already working for them, they run for Congress. Either way... the door swings both ways.

RATIGAN: I think most people in this country, even if they don't understand exactly how it happened, they understand that we have a major problem with the way our banking system is constructed right now, and you, in my opinion, are the best filmmaker in this country at connecting sort of systemic flaws, broken systems, outdated systems, bad decision-making with real-life consequence in our society and around the world. And I'm curious what struck you as the most resonant impact as you went around doing this documentary on average people in this country, young and old, whatever it may have been, because of this particular broken system.

MOORE: What I noticed different this time, with this film than probably any other film I've done in the last twenty years, is that before when you would go to cover people who were hurting, these were people had been poor for a long time or had known poverty or low-income levels, maybe they had a job and never had much money - this time I was talking to people from the middle class and the upper middle class, who worked their whole lives, believing in the system, believing in the promise that if they worked hard and the company prospered, they would prosper...

- snip -

...the level of anger that is boiling out there just beneath the surface, I'm telling you... Get out of the bubble here in New York or in Los Angeles and come out there across the country. I've seen it. You've seen it spill over a little bit with the, you know, the town hall stuff and the teabaggers and all that, but believe me it goes much wider...

RATIGAN: But let's stop there because I think we're at a point in this country that if we don't find a healthy place to direct that frustration and anger, and you're talking to someone who left his job at CNBC in order to pursue politicians because of his frustration and anger at the revelation of a system that was clearly designed basically to perpetuate generational theft, and then cover it up.

MOORE: That is correct. That's exactly right.

RATIGAN: So, what I've been trying to figure out, and I would be curious to know from you is, what is the healthiest place for all of us - I decided, listen, I'll see if I can come over to MSNBC and just ask questions of politicians. Most people are not in the situation that I was where they have that realization of the betrayal and the broken nature of, and they can't come over here and start asking questions. But they can do certain things, particularly relative to those politicians and the political structure in general. What do you think is the most effective way to communicate and the most constructive way to communicate the valid anger and rage that exists in this country so that we don't destroy ourselves in the process?

MOORE: Boy, that's an excellent question, because we're near this tipping point and it could tip any which way. And you want it to tip in the direction of people deciding to use the democratic process in order to have their voices heard and to affect change. If that process is so broken that it doesn't hear them, doesn't allow them in, doesn't respond to them, doesn't allow them to run for office... then they'll go another way...

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...No. 1. Money out of politics. That means, publicly financed elections just like they have in virtually every other Western democracy. This isn't a new idea. It actually works over there, because they see that allowing the money from wealth to control the electoral process is a bastardization of democracy at that point. It's not longer there for the people.

- snip -

Then you have to have laws that prohibit these members of Congress from being lobbyists for the next 5 to 10 years...

RATIGAN: I'd say forever.

MOORE: Oh, well, you are such a radical.

RATIGAN: Same thing with the SEC. Why can you work at the Security and Exchange Commission and then go to work for Goldman Sachs.

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[Jane Austin]

1. Can you tell us?

I don't have time to watch the interview.

Thanks.

[Hissyspit]

5. Transcript there now. nt

[WestSeattle2]

6. It's at 4:00-4:15 in the video...he moved over to MSNBC

so he could ask politicians questions. As we all know, CNBC has shown little concern for the average investor and is really just a showpiece for Wall Street.

Wall Street = Casino
CNBC = Showgirl

[FlyByNight]

16. Really looking forward to seeing the new movie

K'ed & R'ed.

:thumbsup:

[nradisic]

2. Wow!

I've always liked Dylan Ratigan. After watching that clip, I think much more highly of him. I have not watched his show, but will do so when I can from now on. Kudos for letting out publicly his real reason for leaving CNBC....because they "perpetuate generational theft"....awesome.

[davidwparker]

20. Same here. I will start watching the show when I can be in front of the TV

at that time.

[PSzymeczek]

32. He turned me off

when the was on The Ed Show, and shouting over Ed. I thought he was rude, and probably a rightie. Am I wrong?

[Grassy Knoll]

3. Michael Moore has a point in all his movies.....but

Nothing seems to ever change.
We the people don't really do much about it , we just watch movies of how bad it is, Jeez !
<edit for spelling>

[Maccagirl]

9. That's because his films are a classic example of preaching

to the choir. It makes no difference how well-crafted they are, the powerful hate him and his values and will do anything to make certain that nothing ever changes no matter Moore's (and our) efforts.

[bertman]

11. Maccagirl, you are waaayyy wrong about him preaching to the choir. I bugged the hell

out of some friends of mine--liberal-ish wife and conservative husband--to watch "Sicko". They were very much anti-Michael Moore because of the Bad Things they had heard about how radical he was.

Well, they eventually watched "Sicko" and it turned them around politically. He, the conservative actually voted for Obama. She was already an Obama fan.

But Michael is right that WE THE PEOPLE have to get up off our lazy asses and do our jobs as citizens. With enough citizens demanding change it will come.

[DutchLiberal]

4. Ratigan likes to hear himself talk a little much for my taste...

But otherwise, good interview.

[stopbush]

15. Yes. He did well here because Moore was his only guest and he gave him time to talk.

Typically, Ratigan hosts 4-6 guests per segment, asks these long, multi-part questions of each guest and then interrupts them before they've addressed Point A of his question. Somebody at MSNBC needs to coach him on this.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. Apparently Tweety already has.

The original Tweet™.

[DutchLiberal]

30. Most cable hosts do this, including those at MSNBC.

Most notably Chris Matthews --can't watch him for more than a minute.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

7. This sure is a change

from when Ratigan was trashing Michael Moore a couple of weeks ago.

[ro1942]

8. Boy these two guys were great, thanks for posting

[grahamhgreen]

10. Ratigan the ratigal - interesting...

[bertman]

12. DAMN!! I couldn't believe what I was hearing from Ratigan. He actually said that stuff

on teevee. Holy Shit.

MSNBC is fast becoming the Anti-Fox

That was an excellent interview.

Recommend.

[DWilliamsamh]

13. WOW! - Anyone frustrated with the BS interviews usually seen should watch this

This was notable for not just Ratigan's revelation of why he left CNBC. This probably the ONLY interview I've seen with Moore, outside The Daily Show, that fair open questions where asked, and Moore was actually allowed to answer. There was no sense that the interviewer was just WAITING for Moore to 'slip up' or say something that could be twisted into a "wait a minute, how DARE you blaspheme America!"

Great interview. Thanks for posting this.

[Uncle Joe]

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.

[BootinUp]

17. Anyone else notice that

most of Micahaels interviews this time around are better in that he seems to be getting better questions, and allowed more time to state his opinions. Maybe I'm imaginging it. Of course his interview with Blitzer on CNN does not fit that characterization.

[The Wizard]

19. Blitzer is a tool

of the American Enterprise Institute. He's really just a Republican shill disguised as a real journalist.
I'll always remember the time he tried his partisan shit on Howard Dean and got verbally eviscerated and left slack jawed.

[fubarsnafu]

18. Cant wait to see it

I hope alot of people do. It's time to kick some ass on Wallstreet.

[veganlush]

21. Michael Moore is a national hero, a national treasure...n/t

[veganlush]

22. See this movie!..

[PSzymeczek]

33. Hope they show it here.

This town is run by the military, therefore seriously RW. Nothing but Military, Retired military, and general retired, who have theirs, and don't give a damn about anyone else.

[veganlush]

35. yeah, so far i see it's due to open 100 miles away from me..

in the tiny town of Vassar MI, which I'm sure is right of center so I don't know what that's all about...I hope you find it near you and I hope record numbers go to see it..

[BREMPRO]

24. moores suggestion of public finanancing of elections is core to solving our problems with corporate

control of our political system. Needs to be TOP PRIORITY after we improve health care. He's absolutely on target about how the system is corrupted by money. We have public financing in Maine and it allows a wider range of people to run, they don't need corporate backing, they don't have to spend all their time fundraising (even after they are elected) and they have relatively equal footing in the campaigns, can really debate the issues on a grass roots level rather than relying on ad blitzes (these still happen though), and where ideas, accomplishments are are more important than connections or personality. it's not perfect, and sometimes we have candidates who are whacky, but it adds to the debate and makes it entertaining. We had a back woods bearded dude running for Gov. who wanted to turn a former prison into a brothel lol!.


I think one the biggest obstacles to public financing is that the media makes SO MUCH MONEY off the political ads, that it would be really hard to fight them on there own turf to make the airwaves free to qualified candidates as Moore suggested.

[underpants]

27. I agree

[Ineeda]

29. And congress, the very ones who benefit from the existing system...

would be the ones to vote on changing it. Not likely.

[BREMPRO]

31. agreed, lots stacked against a it, but

there are strong voices in congress calling for campaign finance reform. The fact that Obama passed up public financing to have a fund raising advantage, doesn't bode well for him taking the lead. I hope Feingold and McCain maintain their strong coalition and keep it bipartisan. If the Supreme Court votes to allow corporations to support candidates and essentially use their resources to buy elections (even more than they do now), that may be the catalyst for change.

[HughBeaumont]

25. K & R. Not just for Moore, but for Ratigan as well.

MUCH respect. MUCH. Dylan asked pertinent questions, allowed Moore to state his points, no "gotcha's!" . . . no quest to prove double standards. Clear solutions and answers. GREAT interview.

See, this is what galls me the most about conservative attitudes (and, really, some DUers, sadly) towards Michael Moore. They hear the name and turn on their "Red Menace" filters. "Oh blah blah blah commie traitor blah blah blah Marxist Stalinist blah blah blah hippies smell blah blah blah Carter Clinton blah blah blah terrst fat bastard blah blah blah move t' France blah blah blah blah" blah BULLSHIT.

Every one of his movies deals with problems that affect ALL of us. Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, Independents, etc. EVERY working American, every American who wants fair and open communication between the government and the public, every American who wants there to be law and order for EVERYone (not just the lower 95%), every American who wants criminal politicians to be brought to JUSTICE, every American who doesn't want a PLUTOCRACY.

I just don't get WHY it's so difficult to just sit and watch and listen and not be a typical stupid taxophobe corporate fluffing war-loving douchebag on this.

[defendandprotect]

26. k i c k

[chervilant]

28. hmmm...

I want Michael to put his money where his mouth is! I'd run for office, if I had sufficient resources to campaign in the great state of Texas!! I'm certain to ruffle quite a few feathers here!

Also, Michael, I need you to contact me about making your next movie--a timely and essential movie about public education in the good ol' U. S. of A. I promise you I can get you hooked up with a number of educators who are completely disgusted with NCLB and Creationism, and all kinds of other major obstacles to actually 'educating' our youth.

Call me! You'll have to leave a message, because I'm workig three jobs to make ends meet...

[PSzymeczek]

34. There it is!

Michael needs to do a documentary on the state of public education!