Military arrest at G20 - very scary!

[intheflow]

Run time: 00:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UubzJRsG5aU   Posted on YouTube: September 25, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: September 26, 2009 By DU Member: intheflow Views on DU: 5769

 
This is a very scary piece of footage showing men in military uniforms grabbing and stuffing a young man into the back of an unmarked vehicle and speeding off. :scared:

[drdtroit]

1. WTF? Military uniforms, unmarked cars? What country is this? n/t

[OregonBlue]

22. HOMELAND SECURITY - Raw Story says these were members of multi-agency tactical response team.

The military was not involved in the incident, but G20 security did acknowledge that “law enforcement officers from a multi-agency tactical response team” had detained a protester they said was believed to be vandalizing a store.

http://rawstory.com/2009/09/video-appears-to-show-us-troops-kidnapping-protester/

This is what they call detained? They forcefully kidnapped the guy. Is our Justice Department on board with this? Hope the guy in the video is okay and hope he sues!!

[retired af major]

31. Law Enforcement Officers?

Since when to LEOs wear MP arm bands?

[Piewhacket]

2. thats better vid than the last. this looks very unsavory. this is pittsburg PA?

[intheflow]

5. Yes, filmed yesterday. n/t

[lurky]

3. I think that's called a kidnapping.

And the fact that the military (presumably) is snatching people off the streets of an American city is beyond disturbing. This is the something I associate with Argentina during the Dirty War.

Does anyone know who this man was, and whether he is OK?

[Poll_Blind]

4. This is some fucked up shit.

I'm still out until I read more (thanks for the direction to post #8) but shit. You can shoot people who pull up in a car and try to drag you into it because they aren't fucking police. If this is legit this is probably one of the grossest abuses I've ever seen caught on tape. I've seen people getting beaten and that sort of thing, but hauling people into unmarked cars is NOT a legal arrest.

Shades of "Death and the Maiden".

PB

[Why Syzygy]

9. See post #8. nt

[ovidsen]

6. Now THAT'S grim!

To be honest, I think some of the people protesting at the G20 are a few beers short of a six pack. Like the idiots who trashed a Boston Market there. Oh, great. No, it's not the most responsible medium fast food chain in the universe, but jeez, can't you pick a better target? These agitator loony-toons have been hanging around the fringes of otherwise peaceful gatherings since the anti-Vietnam War protests I used to go to in the '60s and '70s. They don't care about stinking causes. They just like to break windows.

Nevertheless, seeing people shoved into unmarked cars in these United States is extremely unsettling.

Do you think they were read their Miranda rights on the way to... wherever? No?? Me neither.

[imdjh]

7. not vouching for this site but it's an interesting read on resistance

http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

[Why Syzygy]

8. UPDATE: Statement from authorities

http://rawstory.com/2009/09/video-appears-to-show-us-troops-kidnapping-protester/

G20 security officials took responsibility Friday afternoon for a video that seemed to depict US troops ‘kidnapping’ a protester. (...)

“Military members supporting the G20 Summit work with local law enforcement authorities but do not have the authority to make arrests. The individuals involved in the 9/24/09 arrest which has appeared online are law enforcement officers from a multi-agency tactical response team assigned to the security operations for the G20. It is not unusual for tactical team members to wear camouflaged fatigues. The type of fatigues the officers wear designates their unit affiliation.

Prior to the arrest, the officers observed this subject vandalizing a local business. Due to the hostile nature of the crowd, officer safety and the safety of the person under arrest, the subject was immediately removed from the area.”

[Turborama]

10. And they had an unmarked car handily just waiting nearby?

This smacks of whisking off an agent provocateur. If we don't hear anything from the person who was whisked away, that'll confirm it.

[Why Syzygy]

24. That was my first thought too.

I wish they would stop with that crap.

[intheflow]

12. Yeah, I don't think I buy it.

I've been to lots of protests, seen a lot of arrests. I've been in some pretty hostile crowds. I've never seen authorities so scared of a "hostile crowd" they felt it necessary to shove individuals into unmarked cars and speed off.

And I want someone to prove to me, by some visible sign on those fatigues, that they weren't military. Otherwise, I think the "all the cool guys are wearing fatigues" defense sounds like just so much bullshit.

[Libertas1776]

14. "by some visible sign on those fatigues, that they weren't military."

IMO the boots are a dead give away. The military simply does not use those black combat boots, nor do they use those dark green, non pixelated fatigues anymore. They look like they bought their stuff from an Army Navy store. I am not saying whether it was staged or it was some unknown fucked up shit, but it definitively wasn't military.

[edc]

20. Correct

No hats. One of them also appears to be wearing street shoes or else his pants are unbloused, and they look more like NFL linebackers or mob muscle than soldiers.

[RandomThoughts]

11. It does not looked staged, there is a police officer near by also.

So why would people in military attire put him in a car. Is it just rounding up someone? It is a problem to see such things happening, the person should be identified.

The car also speeded off, which gives an indication that the people doing the grabbing of the person knows what they are doing is wrong. The mentality it takes to speed away quickly is different then the mentality of just an arrest, where the driver would drive in a normal manner, by speeding away it shows a nabbing of someone not an arrest.

Such things as that can not stand in a free society, army units, or hired mercenaries should not be enforcing laws inside the USA.

However it should not incite fear, if anything it should create resolve to force investigations and the upholding of laws for the people.

[Libertas1776]

13. I don't know what to think, really

There are certain little subtleties that don't seem to add up. For one thing, they all aren't wearing the same camouflage uniform. And the black "soldier" is wearing black combat boots, and if I am not mistaken the military hasn't used these boots since the late 90s. Not to mention the darker green, non pixelated, seemingly out of date uniform. Plus, is the gguy on the other side wearing a ball cap?


Most of the soldiers, national guard, on leave etc. usually look like this.



Either this was staged, or some kind of really fucked up para military mercenary kidnapping thing just happened. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't the US military.

[RandomThoughts]

15. Most events of social control are not done against a person.

They are events shown to many people. Just picking up one protester, even if he was on a list of being a trouble maker by some private or public agency has little effect. But getting people to think that will happen to them has a wide ranging effect.

You can see many actions taking place that are meant to modify social thought on issues like societal control. Even the horrible attacks on individuals over the last few months do not seem to have anything to do with the people themselves, but are meant as a way to scare many people.

During the last few years there were scores of odd news reports, either made up, or reports of actual actions that were meant to scare or intimidate people. It is part of psyops, both private and public, to not have to use violence on society, but to use fear of violence on them. It is all about fear and creating thoughts of fear in people.

[intheflow]

21. You make very good points.

But as you say, whether it was military or paramilitary, it's pretty scary.

[techlib]

16. GWB

These Bush-style military tactics must be stopped! End the illegal and immoral wars, end the voluntary military, and implement Obama-style control over this country ASAP. This crap is getting too old!

Have a good evening...

[unhappycamper]

17. Welcome to DU techlib!

What is 'Obama-style control over this country'?

[techlib]

27. Thanks

Just meant how Obama is ending the illegal & immoral torture and Bush-style cover ups...

[armyowalgreens]

18. That was not the military.

The uniforms were not up to date.

[babylonsister]

19. Jeebus. Shades of Russia. Isn't that how people got 'disappeared'?

:scared:

[intheflow]

23. Yeah, that's exactly what I thought, too.

I had a bad dream last night about this clip. :( I hope the kid is all right.

[bobbolink]

25. Thank you.... I think.... for posting this. Can someone here save this, so if it's

"disappeared" we know that people will have it?

Yeah, that's how I'm thinking.....

[intheflow]

26. I was worried about that, too.

But in the time from when I first watched this on YouTube until I posted it (20 minutes later), two more mirrors came up. I'm sure the internets will cause it to exponentially multiply. Well, I hope so, anyway.

[bobbolink]

28. Which could explain why forces want to privatize the series of tubes.

Thanks for letting me know.

This is a piece of history that is important to save.

[JeffR]

29. Too late to rec

but here's a kick!

[dajoki]

30. This is shocking...

to see a military kidnapping in my home state of PA, it looks more like the old Soviet Union. What is happening to us?

[Haaji_Abubakr]

32. follow up?

I saw this a few days ago and wondered if there was a follow up news story.