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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:19 AM
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Weiner Fights for Single Payer on the Floor
 
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Pardon my yelling, but-

Watch this- then send it to everyone you know
(including your congressional reps and senators).

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:00 AM
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1. Lol... Brooklyn and Queens= "god's country".
He's quick.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:15 AM
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2. A son to make a mother kvell.
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fubarsnafu Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:24 AM
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3. Weiner is great!
Single Payer for all!!
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:26 AM
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4. Wiener for pres 2012!
Wouldn't it be awesome to have a pres who didn't rule out what we want(single payer) right off the bat because he wants to fellate his friends in the ins industry?
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:11 AM
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10. I'm on board. I don't think he could get bought out!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:27 AM
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18. After two Bushes in the White House, it's time for a Weiner
How's THAT for a campaign slogan? :patriot:
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:26 AM
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5. He is PRECIOUS - love it! Of course the "theater" was empty...
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:28 AM
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6. yup, that last couple of frames was a killer

but knowing that millions will likely see this at some point makes it mostly irrelevant. Plus the close-up does wonders for making a point.
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SweepPicker Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:29 AM
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7. Spot On!
This guy is great!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:46 AM
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8. Thanks for posting this
As corrupt as our government is, our reps are more accountable than any private insurance company, call them folks!! daily if need be...its easy...K&R, Weiner is great, Eric Massa of NY is another to keep an eye on...
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:08 AM
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9. I like medicare for all ages.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:22 AM
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11. Text of his statement...
thanks for posting.

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/congress/?q=node/77531&id=9038180

"Mr. WEINER. Let me say very briefly what the single payer--consider it Medicare fraud. Ask your neighbor, if you are not old enough to have Medicare, ask them how their service is.

Every year they do a survey of all Medicare beneficiaries; 96 percent say they are satisfied with it, which any program or any business would be glad to have that. They also ask the providers, the hospitals, the doctors: Rate it on a score of 1 to 6. Last year the average score was 4.5. That is pretty good. That is essentially an A minus.

What it does is say, Look, we are not going have high overhead. We will not pay you the bust-out top of the market. For every single person you are going to get prompt payment. Everyone is going to be covered. You are going to have customers all around the neighborhood, and we will try to do some smart things to contain cost.

Now make no mistake about it. The canard that's raised--wait a minute. Medicare is a successful program. We don't like it, but there are costs to it. It's true. We have more older people. To some degree Medicare's success is why it's having trouble financially.

We are living 10 years longer today than we were when Medicare was passed. By the way, it's not 10 years in our teenage years, we get 10 years at the end of life when we have more health care costs.

But if we want to solve a problem in Medicare, you call your Congressman. You get on the phone. The taxpayers employ those people. If you want to fix your private insurance, if they shut you down, they kick you out, you get on an 800 number or you buy shares in their company. Those are the two ways you influence it.

What we are saying is, let's have a more efficient model, let's have a model that's lower cost, let's have a model that you know works. If you don't think it works, ask our Republican friends how come they keep voting for it over and over and over.

I offered an amendment in the Energy and Commerce Committee. I see my colleague from the Judiciary Committee, but the Energy and Commerce Committee--I said, You don't like single-payer health plan, put your money where your mouth is. I offered an amendment on the day of the 44th anniversary of Medicare to eliminate the program. They say they don't like government-run health care. Eliminate the program.

Not a single one of those people--and I am prohibited on the floor from calling them phonies--not a single one of those people voted ``no''--or voted ``yes'' to eliminate Medicare. Oh, no, no, no, we love Medicare. You like Medicare if you are 65 but not if you are 64?




Not if you're 60, not if you're 45. Why? What's the intellectually honest explanation of that? If you believe the program that you're going to fight and defend--you should have it when you're 65--what's magical about that?

When my dad retired at 60, he wasn't eligible to get Medicare, and he went to the private insurance market. They said, Fine. For $15,000 a year, a retired guy, why not give that guy Medicare? And then maybe in a couple of years we give younger guys Medicare. And we get down to the twenties, where you are, we give you Medicare.

The point is, we know what works. You want simple? We got simple. Medicare for all Americans. You want inexpensive, you want low overhead? We got that. Medicare for all Americans. You want something that every doctor accepts? Medicare for all Americans. You want complete, 100 percent choice of what doctor you go to? Medicare for all Americans.

Now, one thing it doesn't do. It doesn't skim off 20 percent for profits. You won't see TV commercials with people sitting in rocking chairs saying, Boy, I'm glad I got Medicare. No, they're going to put that money into health care.

Does it need some fixing? Yeah. We do some dumb things. We'll put $900 for someone to be in a hospital bed. We won't pay $50 to put up a handrail when one-third of all seniors get into a hospital emergency room because of slips and falls. We do some dumb things, and we need to fix it.

But I've got to tell you something. As a Member of Congress representing 650,00, 660,000 people in Brooklyn and Queens in New York City, in God's country, I would much rather fight with CMS, fight with the Federal bureaucracy which, by the way, I get far fewer complaints about them than I do about private insurance companies, than having to hope that I get a good response from my insurance company.

So that's basically the philosophy behind the single-payer thing. I have to
take exception to one thing the President said in his speech. He said, Some people in this Chamber want a single-payer system like they have in Canada. No. I want a single-payer system like we have in the United States of America. I want a single-payer plan that my father has. I want a single-payer plan that my mother has.

I want a single-payer plan that took my grandparents, whose generation had a 30 percent poverty rate before Medicare, and is now at 8 percent. That's the American single-payer.

So don't let people distract you by, Oh, it's Europe; it's socialism; it's Canada. It's the United States of America. We know how to do health care in the United States, and it's called Medicare. The Democrats created it. The Republicans now embrace it. It's got bipartisan support. Let's expand it.

I appreciate it. Let me just yield on this point. First of all, I appreciate it. I'm not a member of the Progressive Caucus. The final stage of the application, as you know, is the talent competition, and I was never able to make it through that last threshold.

But the fact that you, in hour-long blocks, have real thoughtful conversation--this present company excluded--but real thoughtful conversations about this issue that explore the actual facts and the underpinning is exactly why this has been, I believe, a proud moment in our American civic life.

You put aside the people yelling, call people names, put that aside for a moment. This is something all Americans see through the lens of their own experience. They feel very compassionate about it.

So I ask all of the people watching today and all of the people here observing this debate, ask someone about their experience with Medicare and you'll see it's a pretty good ambassador for a government program that works pretty well that we should try to expand to more Americans.

I thank you for your kindness."


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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:00 AM
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13. and Thank you for the text!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:49 AM
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16. People can send all or part of the text to their Congressional Reps...
my pleasure.

:)

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:23 AM
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12. Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 09:25 AM by flyarm
Pelosi Says “F*&k You” to Trumka and the AFL-CIO
By: Jane Hamsher

Saturday September 26, 2009 11:17 am

please read this in it's entirety............

http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/26/pelosi-says-fk-you-to-trumka-and-the-afl-cio/
snip;

It's notable that among the Change to Win unions, only the Teamsters came out against the Baucus bill. (Whoever sold Hoffa on ditching the public plan is no doubt talking fast and trying to explain why he is now being kicked in the face.)

Incoming AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka has been outspoken in his insistence on the inclusion of a public option in any health reform bill, and has threatened to withhold support from Democrats who won't vote for it. Over the past week there was a lot of winking in reports that the White House was leaning on progressive groups to drop their support for the public option. It absolutely did happen, but the use of the word "groups" is probably misleading -- the organization they are talking about, the only one that matters, is the AFL-CIO.

Since other unions outside the AFL-CIO are working the yo-yo on the trigger, Trumka is the lone holdout. He's the mainstay, and there is tremendous pressure building within the AFL in response to arm twisting from the White House for him to cave. And if he falls, it's going to be difficult for the rest of the veal pen not to follow suit. So, he's being directly threatened.

The message is clear: "Get in line or we pay for your precious 'public option' by fucking you on health care benefits."


If Trumka suddenly starts singing the praises of triggers (even if they instantly "yo-yo" it back and insist he was misquoted), you'll know it worked.



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Chamber Of Commerce Attacks Schumer’s Public Option Amendments

By: Jon Walker Friday September 25, 2009 1:52 pm
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/09/25/chamber-of-commerce-attacks-schumers-public-option-amendments/

Live Pulse has a letter from the US Chamber of Commerce attacking four amendments that have yet to be voted on in the Senate Finance Committee. (Rockefeller C1 – Applying new rating rules to the large and self-insured (ERISA) market, Schumer C1/C2 – Public Option Amendments, Wyden C1 – Healthy Americans Act)

The Chamber attacked the two public option amendments from Schumer, but did not bother to mention Rockefeller's more robust public option amendment. The letter indicates that the Chamber must believe that Rockefeller's robust public option is already DOA.

The fact that the Chamber did feel the need to publicly go after the two Schumer public option amendments at least leads me to believe that they have some concern that the amendments might have a chance in the Senate Finance Committee or on the full Senate floor. The lobbying on both sides of the public option issue should get very heated over the weekend.

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Senator Sanders Unfiltered: US Congress Bought & Paid For?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-vkpKu5Fg&feature=channel
or
http://sandersunfiltered.com/

Senator Sanders : "since 1998 big Pharma has spent 1.6 billion $$$$$$$ on Lobbying.."


Who Owns Congress?
Over a year ago, we suffered the most significant financial collapse since the Great Depression, and the result of that is massive unemployment and underemployment. People lost their savings. People lost their homes. Now, despite the greed and illegal behavior of Wall Street, there is a massive effort to make sure that Congress does nothing about it. You know what? That might end up being the result.
How does it happen that Wall Street was able to convince Congress to deregulate their industry, to be in a position to bring the economy down? How does it happen that they are able to fend off serious efforts in Congress to try to re-regulate the financial institutions to protect the American people? Here’s the answer: In the last 10 years, Wall Street and big financial institutions have spent over $5 billion in campaign contributions and in lobbying activities. It doesn’t matter whether you are a Democrat or a Republican; if you have any influence they are going to go after you.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:11 AM
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14. This has NOTHING to do with the opening post except to shit on it.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 10:17 AM
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15. I think it has everything to do with it..without single payer we have nothing but bullshit!
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 10:19 AM by flyarm
without single payer..we are sold down the river! It looks like it is already a done deal..except for a few hold outs..the arm twisting and the threats against those holding out for public option is a damn joke to all of us..we need to scrap what is being proposed and we need to go back to single payer.Anything else is a sell out!

the American people can no longer sit by quietly and let our Health care be sold to the highest bidder!..and to Congress people who only care about elections and the $$$$$$$$$ they can bring in with big Pharma and the insurance industry.

health care is no option..it is real..and it involves real lives.

car insurance is an option..health care is not!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:56 AM
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17. Thanks for posting this. n/t
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