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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:14 PM
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G20 Chilling Arrest ~ by Men in Military Fatigues ~ Some Kinda Scary Shit Man!!
 
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:23 PM
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1. Those are NOT" fatigues "
God, does anyone even use that term anymore? Those are BDU's (which the army discontinued in 2005 or so) The Army now wears Pixelated Cammies. Who ever those four were they WEREN'T military. I have heard quite a few people speculating that the"arrestee" was an agent provocateur and that was the easiest way to extract him.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:44 PM
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2. Back in my days of protesting Vietnam, the one person who did not
Get arrested was the agent provacateur. They stayed safe while the rest got pummelled.

Were these guys Univ of Pittsburgh police?

Or one of the contracted agencies (DynCorp, Blackwater, etc.)
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:01 PM
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6. According to the official information center
"The individuals involved in the 9/24/2009 arrest which has appeared online are law enforcement officers from a multi-agency tactical response team assigned to the security operations for the G20."

I figure a privateer unit, company unknown.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:48 PM
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14. Thanks fo rthe update, Fedja n/t
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:52 PM
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3. It's back...
Look, three guys, each wearing a different "uniform." If this were the police, say Swat, they would be wearing a consisant uniform.

Have no clue who these guys were, but they don't seem offical.
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:59 PM
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5. They're "cops"
The PD released a statement saying they're part of a cross-agency action team contracted for the G20 yadda yadda. Paramilitary unit, cooperating with the riot cops. You can even see one of em has a standard police gun holster on his right hip.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:02 PM
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7. typical cop fascist scumbags.
Why do some people on DU insist that the cops are there to protect citizens and uphold law and order? the Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that they didn't have to protect citizens, they were only there to maintain societal order.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 06:57 PM
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11. Cops in fatigues and combat boots,
without police identification on their clothing?

Can 'cops' be acting as members of a 'paramilitary' group in the line of duty in the US? Where is that covered in the Constitution?
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:09 PM
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27. Actually, the lack of identification seems to be consistent
throughout the G20 law enforcement, as per the ACLU and the National Lawyers Guild: http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2009/09/rights-groups-criticize-police-tactics.php

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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 10:10 PM
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28. Thanks for the link.
That is disturbing, to say the least. I doubt these guys were local.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:59 PM
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4. can you imagine
That is some weird shit. And I feel we are spinning out of control. What next? But the contrast between the right/left protests are stunning:

Just for a moment.... if the protesters had been exercising their constitutional 2nd amendment right?
Can you imagine if a teabagger had been arrested in this fashion?




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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:17 PM
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8. Is there any story on this?
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 05:17 PM by AsahinaKimi
What was this kid charged with, why was he the ONLY one thrown in this car.. who is this kid? Who are these guys..
Where is the investigative reporting?

Inquiring minds want to know..
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:38 PM
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9. Blackwater.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 06:07 PM
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10. Good point
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 06:07 PM by 90-percent
I ask on every one of these threads on this;

Who's the kid?


Is he OK?

Is he still in custody?

Why has he not been identified yet? (if that is indeed the case? news gets to DU pretty damn quick, so in my wolrd, DU is where I find stuff first.)

I fear for the safety of this young man. Or this misinformation actor - what's going on here exactly is still vague.

-90% Jimmy
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JamesDean Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:27 PM
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12. Hope and Change?
Looks like Chicago.
This is NOT the change I voted for.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:45 PM
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13. Please let me know when corporate media covers this
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 11:53 PM
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15. fucking mercenaries in our country now... isn't this against our constitution ?
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 12:50 AM
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16. Yes it is and it is called Treason.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:05 AM
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17. Unless we hear from the guy who was disappeared (or his friends/family) this is could well be...
Unless we hear from the guy who was disappeared (or his friends/family) this could well be an agent provocateur being whisked away. Has anyone heard anything about who this guy is or what's happened to him?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:21 AM
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18. k i c k
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 01:21 AM
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19. Were there a few of these . . . and has anyone identified those abducted???
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:09 AM
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20. I don't know... looks kinda staged
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:14 AM
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21. It's not


This was taken at the same protest, same paramilitary unit, working with riot police.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:24 AM
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22. I see. So they were taking unruly people individually to jail?
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:31 AM
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23. It's hard to say what they were doing
But legally, what they did in the video was abduct a person. They did not follow usual arrest protocol or identify themselves. Technically, they're not even officers of the law, but simply 'men in camo' stuffing people in their car and driving off.

Regardless of whether the subject was unruly, this is something one would expect to see in North Korea, not a modern democracy.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:56 AM
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25. Just looking at that pic, the police came looking for trouble.
I don't care who one may be, the thought process when confronted w/authority that is literally in armor to do battle is that "things will escalate from here."

When authority figures show up at any event looking like that, it is almost a guarantee that things will get out of hand. The NYC police understood this years ago and implemented a "show you're there non-confrontationally" policy because things were getting bad. It has worked well.

If it was somehow deemed necessary that force be used, a group that is held in reserve is brought forward, you never start w/'the thought things will get "ugly fast", by doing that, you ensure that things do get ugly, very fast.

I view these "officers" as terrorists, they very presence of heavily armed and armored police is meant to "scare" people, that is the essence of terror. The Pittsburgh police have done themselves a disservice, just as those in Chicago did in 1969. Tipping over trashcans is not a reason to use excessive force. Rocks thrown at them was a response to an overbearing presence, and used as an excuse to go headlong into suppression. When adrenaline gets pumped, things go poorly, for both sides. When one adds that the situation almost certainly had an agent provocateur(s), the entire thing was doomed to failure from the start.

The RW will demand "law and order", they have no concept of just what excessive things can be manifest. They will destroy every Liberty we have, just to ensure that "they" get what's coming to them, "they" being anyone who disagrees w/them. I am far from being an anarchist, I don't see these people as anarchists, they wanted to be heard, if they were allowed to hold their rally in peace, everyone would have gone home and it would be over.

Now, the world can see us as a people who cannot accept dissent, and meet such dissent w/overpowering force, the very thing that we have condemned time and again. We are the hypocrites, and therefore will lose much respect in the eyes of the world, and ratchet up the vitriol by those who seek our downfall.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:09 AM
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24. The point is the continued militarization of the police
This shit has been going on for years and it's getting worse.
These ass wipes love to dress up in military type clothing while brandishing automatic weapons.

I wonder if any police officer with a brain can see this from a citizens point of view.
This is scary and unnecessary, If they are police then let them dress like police and not
some unnamed militia type Black Water Thugs or Fascist head breakers.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:30 AM
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26. after contacting Congress members, contact Pittsburgh
click here to see what you can do:
http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/home-mainmenu-289/5879-stand-with-the-g-20-protesters

The most blatant show of military and police force left protesters tear-gassed, subject to piercing sound, shot with rubber bullets, and not allowed to assemble, while the population of Pittsburgh was kept off the streets and rounded up along with people there to deliver messages of opposition to the G-20 ministers.

We put a quick letter together which we will deliver on Thursday. Please circulate this link everywhere so that thousands sign on.

READ Cindy Sheehan's letter from Pittsburgh
Coverage from Rob Kall, National Lawyers Guild

WATCH video and here and here.

SIGN this letter of outrage, to be sent to federal and PA authorities. Deadline 10-1-2009

CONTACT these officials:
Luke Ravenstahl: Mayor of Pittsburgh 412-255-2626
Nathan Harper: Chief of Police, Pittsburgh 412-323-7800
Ed Rendell: Governor of Pennsylvania 717 787-2500

People of conscience must stand together in outrage and not accept this repression from the government on the people. We cannot allow these actions to go quietly into the night and be forgotten.
We are seizing the opportunity to have our voices heard in unison, denouncing the fascist direction of this country. It is with the utmost urgency and for the sake of stopping the police state and reversing this course that WE WILL NOT BE SILENT.
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