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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 02:49 PM
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Michael Moore on Nightline 22 September, 2009
 
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Here's my favorite moment:

Announcer, voice dripping with incredulity: "Michael Moore??? CHRISTIAN???!!!"

For fuck's sake.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:18 PM
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1. Michael Moore was raised in the same form of Christianity in which I was raised.
Good for him.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:22 PM
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2. Make plans to see MM film this Friday. You won't be disappointed! Roger Ebert on Michael Moore
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 03:50 PM by LaPera
Whether or not you agree with Michael Moore, he has one piece of invaluable advice in his new film, "Capitalism: A Love Story." If a bank forecloses on your home, ask them to prove their ownership by producing a copy of the mortgage.

In the film, Marcy Kaptur, the Congresswoman from Toledo, says, “Don't leave your house if they try to throw you out.” Why not? "In many cases, they can't," Moore explains, "because it's already been cut up, chopped up and bundled and rebundled and a piece of this mortgage is sitting in China."

"Capitalism," which opens nationally on Friday, is Moore's latest populist rabble-rouser, not his funniest but probably his angriest. The strange thing is, there's not much in it to offend his usual critics. It comes at a time when the U.S, economy essentially serves him as a footnote.

His study of the meltdown leads him to the puzzling matter of "derivatives," the mysterious financial instruments involved in the bank collapses. In the film, Moore asks three "experts" to explain a derivative to him. They can't.

"Nobody wants to look stupid, " he told me, "so everybody sort of nods their heads and goes, Oh yeah, yeah, I understand that. You're not supposed to understand it. It's like a snipe hunt on Wall Street.

"I gotta tell you this story. I talked to a guy who used to sit on one of the nine Federal Reserve Boards. They brought somebody in to explain these credit default loans and everyone sat around the table going, ah hum, ah hum. He told me he didn't have a clue what the guy was saying but was afraid to look stupid.

"After the crash, he calls up some of the guys on the board and admits he didn't understand half of what he was hearing. He got the sense that nobody in the room understood it. But a weird thing happens amongst smart people. They won't admit it. Like I don't wanna admit to you that I've never read Moby Dick, because I think I'm a fairly smart guy."

So okay, I told him. You made the film. I want you to explain derivatives to me.

Moore, who didn't go to college, is happy to.

"Imagine you've got this crazy brother-in-law and he likes to gamble but doesn't wanna go to the normal casino. He wants to go to the virtual casino, where you never really actually touch any of the money. He wants to place bets with money that isn't his and he starts to win some of it and he starts to think it's his money.

"But he's actually not touching that money either. He starts to get a little nervous about all this betting because he never really actually sees any money. So he says, You know, I need to take out an insurance policy just in case this isn't real. So these derivatives are essentially bets on bets.

"They've been betting against whether people are going to be able to pay their mortgage. They've been betting against the economy. If the economy gets worse, jobs are gonna have to be cut. That should help Wall Street, because as unemployment goes up the Dow Jones goes up. Wall Street likes it when you get rid of people because it's good for the bottom line. Employees are your number one expense.

"Before the derivative action starts, they've taken people's mortgages and split them up and sold off the pieces. Let's say they've taken 100 people in your neighborhood and taken 10 percent of each of their mortgages, put them into a brand new document and sold it to somebody. That's why they can't find your mortgage."


Moore is rolling now. It's an inspiration to see him under a head of steam, his red baseball cap bobbing and his hands waving.

(Much More Moore)
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090927/PEOPLE/909279997
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:25 PM
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4. I'LL BE THERE OPENING NIGHT - OCT 2ND. That's when MM said to go - because
the opening night numbers are what they base further distribution on (or some such thing). SO GO ON OCTOBER 2ND! (that's this Friday)
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:23 PM
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3. Yep. Michael Moore = "Christian" - a REAL one. NOT an astroturf one. n/t
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:43 PM
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5. How dare
Michael Moore be a Christian!!!:sarcasm: Why the fuck is that so surprising? Yes, because evidently you have to be some godless heathen liberal in order to care for all people. :sarcasm:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 03:57 PM
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6. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, ProfessorPlum.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:41 PM
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7. Moran: "So your critics are right, you are a radical" What a moron.
Moran was clearly just looking for any excuse to label Moore a "radical" in the interview. The context of his statement makes no sense- there was nothing radical about what Moore said.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:41 PM
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10. Smarmy Asshole is more like it.
Kick for Michael.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:11 AM
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12. That's a better description.
His unaturally puckered lips drive me crazy, even when he they aren't moving to spin for the corporate master.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 04:50 PM
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8. HA! I woulda said Yes, a radical Christian as in following Jesus' principles instead of a fake
hierarchy that puts profits above humans who are suffering.

Michael, you KICK ass!

Michael Moore, Christian? YOU BETCHA!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:32 PM
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9. It sounded more like it was for dramatic effect
to me.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 11:52 PM
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11. Christianists (not Christians) are easy to shut down. But secular people refuse to do it.
All you need to do is challenge their lack of living up to their "Christ" -- Could they pass through the eye of the needle? Do they care more about the poor than the rich? Etc.

But secular people are too insecure and require their own catharsis. Too bad.
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