White House Caught Doctoring Mission Accomplished Video

[chat_noir]

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Apparently the Bush administration has taken the Winston Churchill quote "History is written by the victors" into the video age. The official White House website is now sporting a very different version of President Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech. In this exclusive video, Inside Minnesota Politics' Mike McIntee shows how the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the USS Abraham Lincoln has apparently been crudely cropped out of the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u2ITs4yIAE

[MadMaddie]

1. They just don't know when to quit....Stalin editing revisted 2006..

[Ken Burch]

21. So THAT's why Colin Powell has been replaced by a shrub in all the photos

nt.

[jazzjunkysue]

2. "Paging George Orwell..."

:scared:

[SlavesandBulldozers]

3. it's kind of quaint really. for them to think that anybody will rely on their

telling of the story in the future. in reality, things like this will simply add to the story of how history judges them - like we view nazi rallies or book burnings. the nazi rallies and book burnings, or stalin erasing people out of pictures with him - in the end these things didn't determine or even destroy history which is what their intentions were - rather they became history lessons themselves - lessons useful as markers for the future, warnings.

[Canuckistanian]

10. Very good point

Things like this will be pointed at as crude attempts to erase emabrassing moments.

Now that it's been saved on millions of hard drives around the world, this revisionism itself will be recorded for posterity.

Things like this will be Bush's legacy.

[Tanuki]

4. This is so typical of *---dishonest,and incompetent---

One hardly knows whether to laugh or cry
K&R for the exposure this latest bit of failed propaganda deserves

[Bretttido]

5. The internets will set us free

[Imagevision]

39. There doesn't seem to be much outrage??

[Pool Hall Ace]

60. Too many people are still outraged over Senator Kerry's joke.

This, unfortunately, will be overlooked.

In the mean time, I have rated this video up at youtube.

[badgerpup]

6. Those poor, naive, innocent...nah...whatta buncha MAROONS...

...they really think that photoshopping the banner out will make everything OK...

Guys...hate* to burst your bubble and shatter your illusions, but TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE ORIGINAL, and for too many years.
That image of Commander Bunnypants 'Codpiece' McFlightsuit parading around beneath that red, white and blue MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner is ALL OVER THE PLANET....
not to mention the sound track of Tucker Carlson et al salivating and moaning in frustrated desire as he describes the ceremony.

You going to edit that bit out, too?

:rofl:

* actually, I'm ENJOYING it. :evilgrin:

[Auggie]

7. I thought Joseph Goebbels was long dead

[bobbie]

20. Not at all, he lives in Rove

Two soul brothers...'cept that neither have a soul.

[Beth in VT]

8. I guess even they thought that looked pretty silly. n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

9. And I Probably Paid For That Bullshit

It drives me nuts when I'm paying for their campaigning - whether it's The Smirk doctoring videos or Clinton shutting down Boston traffic for hours while he rides around in a mad cash grab.

[OnyxCollie]

11. I'm surprised they didn't try to put White-Out on the screen. nt

[db in nyc]

12. Although,

that black bar seems to be at the bottom of every video on the whitehouse site. Every random video that I clicked on had it. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust this administration even the slightest bit. But there may be less to this story than we think.

Or, in an effort to cover up the cover-up, they went into the archive and put black bars on everything else too... But I would think they have bigger cover-ups to be spending their time and energy on (Iraq, Abramoff, Diebold, Plame, etc.)

[ThsMchneKilsFascists]

28. Not For Me

Twelve random videos I selected on whitehouse.gov looked fine on my pc with no crop on the bottom.

[db in nyc]

44. You're right,

there are videos without the bar, however, spend another 3 or 4 minutes clicking on more videos, and you will find plenty with the black bar. It seems to be a general technical thing which we may be reading into way too much. Sure, it works out better for them, but I think it's more out of dumb luck than a devious plot.

In any case, my point was just that this is somewhat of a non-issue that republicans would love for us to fixate on and trumpet as a big deal. It'll be yet another conspiracy theory which they can call us paranoid moonbats for. Don't let them have that pleasure. We have plenty of other accusations to lay upon the Bush administration which have far more substance and weight. Let's focus our energy on bigger things. Heading into '08 we need to start becoming more grounded and less angry. Which means not being impulsive over issues like this.

However, I also don't want to argue with you guys too much. I'm a team player and happy to bash Bush for being the naughty little chimp that he is. . .

[Gormy Cuss]

58. But there is an issue with this video

I'm sure the official spin is that cropping it makes the video viewing better on the web site but this speech with the prominent 'Mission Accomplished' banner was the seminal moment for the administration in its Iraq war campaign. It's a tad too convenient that this one was cropped in this way. I would wager that some of the other videos with black bars across the bottom are also the result of cropping for content rather than clarity.

I doubt it's dumb luck. The only question is who made the choice to make this convenient edit.

[Robb]

59. You're right, we should probably ignore it

:rofl:

[codjh9]

13. Pathetic - but then, who are we talking about?

As my mother says, these people would shoot their own grandmother.

[MCMetal]

14. Umm , I need this clarified ......

Apparently the Bush administration has taken the Winston Churchill quote "History is written by the victors" into the video age.

What exactly has Chimpy the Wonder Monkey and his horseshit administration ever "won" ?
An improper (and perhaps illegal) SCOTUS ruling gave Chimpy the presidency ; he was SELECTED , not elected in 2000.
2004 was Blackwell and Diebold ; not exactly overwhelming evidence of integrity .
Our Chimperor-In-Chief is going to go down in history as the only president to ever lose 2 wars ; and at the same time .....

[grytpype]

15. Very funny!

[BluePatriot]

16. What is sad

is that this is still up on the WH web site...

A K&R for a good find!

[MGD]

17. Behold, the information age. We won't get fooled again. nt

[hasssan1]

18. shamefull

shame full , criminal asshole. i just can not understand how you can support this MOFO if you have 10oz of brain in your head and call yourself an American.

[Up2Late]

19. OMG! They are such IDIOTS!

Have they never even heard of a Quantel Video Paintbox? I don't think they even need that anymore, I bet any local T.V. station could do a better job than that. I could do a better job on that video on my home computer! Hell, If I can find the Video on-line, I will.

PLUS! They already had a cropped video back in September 2003 (or Fox News did, I'm not sure where The Daily Show got the video)

Here's proof in a 2003 Daily Show clip I uploaded to YouTube after "The Google" bought it (which was then quickly taken down), but then I re-uploaded it to another well know site that doesn't seem to be deleting Daily Show clips yet:

<http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1358399186>

[Mr_Spock]

22. OH FUCKING PLEASE!!!

Are these the stupidest fucking idiots in the history of the planet?

What the FUCK is WRONG with these idiots?

Worst. Administration. Ever. By. Far.

[Lyra Silvertongue]

23. Slimy, sure. But they're more discreet than that.

Like someone pointed out, it seems there's a black bar on many older videos (those that are widescreen). So it's not exclusive to this video, and therefore not a big deal. Not to mention when you compare the video with actual pictures of the speech, it's clear the camera angle, even if pushed up a bit, would have been too low to show the banner anyway, cropped or no. See?



They merely replaced the speech video with video taken from a lower camera angle. Rather than that hugely dramatic MISSION ACCOMPLISHED RIGHT ABOVE HIS HEAD YAY AMERICA angle (pictured above) we all remember seeing that night. ;) It's still pretty slimy of them to wipe any trace of "Mission Accomplished" from the page, though.

[civildisoBDence]

36. After posting those nu-cu-ler documents online and failing to engage Iran on nukes,

someone should change the banner to read:

FISSION Accomplished.

Newsprism

[understandinglife]

24. Truth. Will. Prevail. We the People ... Will Make Certain Of It ...

Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq .... and, now he willfully provided nuke-making instructions to terrorists -- if you doubt it, just check 'the google' .... and LIEberman enabled him every step of the way ....

[usregimechange]

25. Is honesty a moral value?

[blondeatlast]

31. Yeah--just not a FAMILY value, silly...

For the lurking under-aqueduct traverses small people/monster hybrids lacking any sort of wit whatsoever who will be our guests at DU today...

:sarcasm:

[orleans]

26. rewriting history, one lie at a time. (our tax dollars hard at work!) n/t

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

27. kick & rec. n/t

[Gap Spanner]

29. Bush ties to accused terrorist?

Interesting news story on Reuters. Three US Citizens are being tried in Vietnam of suspected terrorist activities. One seems to have ties to Bush's Republican Party:

From Reuters:

"Seven people -- three U.S. citizens, one U.S. resident and three Vietnamese living in Vietnam -- were charged last week with "terrorist activities". These included bomb plots, delivering leaflets and jamming radio stations, prosecutors said"

"One of the defendants, Nguyen Thuong Cuc, 58, who goes by the name of Thuong Nguyen Foshee in the United States, has close ties with Bush's Republican Party in Florida."

I'd provide the link, but I'm not sure how.

[blondeatlast]

32. Copy and paste from the address box in your browser, that's all it takes.

Make sure you put it in the message box, it won't work in the subject line.

Do provide the link; we expect that even the most damning anti-W stories have credibility. Ubtil I see some credible source, I don't give any statement weight.

[StraightDope]

42. Interesting...

Send that link along if you can. I'd like to see more about this.

[Vinca]

30. They must be crafting history for the Little Golden Book Library. nt

[wizstars]

33. Guess this means "Mission NOT Accomplished"!

do we really expect anything different from these bastards?? Vote 'em out today, or we'll pay for it later.

[deep harm]

34. White House erases some events entirely, like signing of NOFEAR Act

On May 15, 2002, President Bush signed the NoFEAR Act, which
required Agencies to report data on discrimination and
whistleblower reprisal.  Notice of the signing, and a photo of
Bush surrounded by African American activists, were
immediately published on the official White House website. 
Months later, the White House quietly removed all mention of
the event, and subsequently the OPM attempted to gut
implementation of the new law.

Here is the official White House photo, as published on the
NoFEAR group's website:
http://groups.msn.com/NoFearCoalition/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=25

[bloom]

35. 1984

That's pretty interesting. Rewriting history.

I guess to justify being over there if the mission was accomplished. There would be no reason to be there.

[Imagevision]

37. and to boot, ---> msm doesn't think this is a story!!

[sinkingfeeling]

38. These people are both insane and haven't an ounce of decency!

[Imagevision]

40. Rove cares only if he whens not how he wins - no rules for repukes...

[IWantAChange]

41. KKKarl was a genius - soon he will be just another LOSER.......

I firmly believe that Joe 6 pack has finally gotten off his dead ass - changed the channel from Faux news and has had an 'awakening' - all is not good in Bushcoland.

[lonestarnot]

43. Trying to rewrite history again I see!

fuckwads!

[IWantAChange]

45. 20,000+ dead and wounded - 400+ billion spent - BIG DEAL.....

when you are the 'DECIDER' you can decide to rewrite or in this case recast video documentation of what you were REALLY saying w/o that damn mysterious banner in the background - damn MSM taking events as they happen and representing them as facts.

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

[SpreadItAround]

46. This is such a non-story, look at other videos on whitehouse.gov...

Seriously, randomly click on videos of Bush's speech at whitehouse.gov and you'll find that some videos have the black bar and some do not, it's completely random and it wasn't done intentionally to block out the Mission Accomplished banner. Looks like it's there to facilitate scrolling text data.

I hate and mistrust Bush and everyone around him as the next guy and would not put anything past them but buying into this kind thing of makes us all look a little crazy.

Now if you would like to say that maybe they put the black bar randomly on some speeches and not on others so as to get people to believe that it's random, then I have a nice tinfoil hat for you.

:tinfoilhat:

[RobertSeattle]

48. I noticed that too, but why do some have the black bar and others don't?

Are some versions in the hd format 16:9 instead of regular def (4:3) ???

[SpreadItAround]

49. Yeah, I don't know why it's in some but not others...

...the only thing I can think of is that it's either for future formatting to widescreen or for scrolling text at the bottom.

Need a a/v nerd to chime in on it.

What I do know though is that it wasn't a deliberate effort by the * administration to rewrite history.

[jaxhud]

52. I think it goes a lot further than just the one video.

I think they've cut the bottom portion of a number of videos in an effort to obfuscate the fact they cut the top of the Mission Accomplished video and pushed the video up. You can see in other videos on the site, with black bars at the bottom, that they were orginally 4/3 videos because there is an inordinate amount of space between the top of Bush's head and the top-border of the screen, relative to the bottom of the subject (Bush). Cameramen do better framing of a subject than what the apparent editing suggests. Bush's 'Ministry of Sanitized Information' has simply cut the bottom off of those videos. But on the Mission Accomplished video they cut the top and pushed the rest up. Why go back and edit 4/3 videos to 16/9 anyway? What's the purpose of cutting away what was originally captured? I have a 16/9 TV and it of course still shows 4/3 video just fine. This is just another example of the Bush administrations's propaganda lie-machine.

[The Count]

47. The one mistake he owned to - purged fro official records...

As Borat learned, this would be one of those "NOT" jokes.

[liberal N proud]

50. I guess the original version is too embarrassing

[davidlynch]

51. This is really great and funy--and the narration is supendous--thank you!

[not_a_robot]

53. A note to the COINTELPRO folks

Okay I just had to respond to the obvius plants in this thread about the black bar. Some footage has a large black bar which is the ticker and logo space from the original source. I realize others here know that, it's not a secret but a common format. The video here appears not to have a real ticker bar, but to be displaced to move the banner in the shot outside the frame leaving the black bar at the bottom.

[19jet54]

54. Worst President Ever!

This just proves it; they want to hide the truth because they know they screwed up!

[Kolesar]

55. 2 jets in shot in the "new" video; radome and "banner" in shot in "old" video

Those look like totally different backgrounds to me. Was one shot with a different camera from a different vantage point?

[against all enemies]

56. Couldn't they block out the idiot president too.

[lovuian]

57. Baaawaaahaaa

that is so predictable but they see that their visuals are backfiring