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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:36 AM
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David Schuster stooge slaps Neo-Con apologist Fouad Ajami
 
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Plus, Paul Rieckoff joins in later on in the segment.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:23 AM
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1. Fouad needs to work on his talking points.
The NeoCons are gonna cut him out of the oil profits if he doesn't shape up.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:29 AM
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2. The winner is the truth. I see Shuster in a knockout.
Shuster does his job.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:47 AM
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3. That was painful to watch
MSNBC really should have found another spokesman for the pro-Libby point of view. Ajani is too tied to his unfortunate choice of metaphors to make any discussion with him interesting.

For the record, I am a vet and I am offended by Mr. Ajani's metaphor.

What I got from Ajani, between Schuster spanking him for his metaphor, is that the war is noble and Mr. Libby, as one of the chief decision makers, is on the right side of a noble cause. I couldn't disagree more. This war is not about liberating Iraqis from Saddam; it is about liberating Iraqis from their mineral rights. There's nothing noble in that. Nor was there anything noble in the pack of lies that came from the OVP, where Libby served as chief of staff, to sell the war to the American people. Having said that, it should be clear that there is nothing noble about Scooter Libby.

Mr. Ajani had a second tack, which is that it would be wrong for Mr. Libby to bear the responsibility for what was done by so many people. In this, I agree with him, but the solution would not be to pardon Libby or commute his sentence. The solution would be to continue the investigation so that Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rove and Mr. Bush are also brought to the bar of justice.

There were no mitigating circumstances in Libby's case. He lied to the FBI and a federal grand jury with the intention of obstructing justice. He has not yet expressed any remorse, and there seems little reason to presume he has any. The OVP operated as a criminal organization, smug with the idea that the law couldn't touch them because, being part of the executive branch, they were charged with enforcing the law.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:54 AM
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4. I think it's a tough guy metaphor
to make Libby and all the other pro-war crowd sound tough, like they are soldiers sacrificing and fighting against our enemies in a war on terror. Which is ludicrous. So when he got called out on it he kept saying the it was "just a metaphor." Yeah, one that is comparing the people who ginned up the Iraq War to the ones who actually have to put their lives on the line for that horrible mistake.

You don't just utilize a metaphor without a reason, and his reason was to sound tough and heroic. When he was ridiculed on it, well he backed off, so then what exactly does the metaphor mean? It's not an empty metaphor, it has to mean something. He knows how he meant it, but he just can't say it anymore because it's ridiculous.
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 03:08 AM
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6. couldn't agree more ...
"Mr. Ajani had a second tack, which is that it would be wrong for Mr. Libby to bear the responsibility for what was done by so many people. In this, I agree with him, but the solution would not be to pardon Libby or commute his sentence. The solution would be to continue the investigation so that Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rove and Mr. Bush are also brought to the bar of justice."

*nodding emphatic agreement*

Just today I wrote (snail mail) to Keith Ellison (http://www.keithellison.org/), Congressperson for Minnesota, thanking him for co-sponsoring H.Res.333 (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-hr333/show). I told him I was proud to have voted for him, and would do so again in the future. I concluded my missive saying that, in addition to impeaching Cheney, Mr. Gonzales and Mr. Bush should also be impeached. I look forward to his reply.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 02:55 AM
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5. David is awesome, first time i seen Shuster was on FoxNoise, he was sticking a mic...
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 03:16 AM by bridgit
in some guy's face that didn't much like it years ago, the guy took off & David just followed him right along across the park & his camera man planted following with a long shot, it was funny and i thought, "Fucking FoxNoise goof, look at that!"

but now that he has broken out i realize that was just tenacity, he was in a segment with that slime Dan Burton & the excellent Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and between the two of them they had Burton retreating into his plastic, used car salesman 'shit eating grim', wonderful to watch...

if you find the youtube vid please post it :patriot:

for now you can watch it here @ MSNBC http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=3c358f8f-d58a-4dc3-880d-21bb478e3ec7&f=00&fg=copy
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:44 AM
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7. I couldn't find it
I wish I could that sounded great. Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to watch it there. :)
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:27 AM
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8. Best Hardball segment I have ever seen.
Need to replace Tweety with Schuster. What was left of my respect for him was lost when he obsessed about Junior in his cowboy costumes.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 09:40 AM
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9. This man represents John Hopkins University???????
If I were a student, professor or alumni of this school, I would be SEETHING mad to know that this is the best representative of their school that they could find on any subject and on either side of that subject. Humiliating doesn't even begin to describe how pathetic his performance was.
:wtf:

The thing that got me was when he became indignant about being "preached to about the soldiers" because he "visited them in Iraq" and has a "nephew serving in Iraq".

All I can say to this is whoopty fucking do! By this nimrod's argument, we should also not hold Lieberman nor McCain to task for their callousness when it comes to our soldiers because they, too, visited Iraq! So if the Grand Wizard of the KKK visited a black university, we should no longer think him racist? His nephew is fighting in Iraq? I find it interesting that he did not share what his nephew thought about being compared to Scooter. I am unimpressed that his nephew is in Iraq, since it appears he is also using him as a shield to his wrong-headedness.
:nopity:


Although I have to give him props for even attempting to go toe to toe with David Schuster's turbo-charged tongue, considering english is not his first language and he is obviously not fluent, but to keep coming back to a point that David has already dismissed, at least twice, is a sign of blatant stupidity. :dunce:

Again, if I were from Johns Hopkins, I WOULD BE PISSED!!! :banghead:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:24 PM
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12. he had a lot of trouble trying to get words
out a few times. Like he had no clue what to say. How embarassing would that be?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 06:14 PM
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13. He's used to being coddled. I don't think he knew what hit him--
and that's just the way it should be.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 11:14 AM
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10. Debating the Scooter Libby case with David Schuster is about as stupid
as debating Watergate with John Dean.

Schuster's been there from the beginning asking the tough questions and making the connections from day 1.

I'd love to see Schuster have his own show, but would hate to lose him in the field.

Excellent, excellent work, Mr. Schuster. If only there were more who aspitred to your integrity, work ethic, and skills in the field. :patriot:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 01:34 PM
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11. well put!
I agree totally, and couldn't have laid it out as well.
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