Eloquent Wes Clark with Olbermann: "This administration does not support the troops in Iraq."

[DeepModem Mom]

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[sdav9883]

1. Olbermann

Olbermann is THE MAN... He tells it like it is MR. PRESIDENT

[Dinger]

2. It Must Kill Keith Not To Endorse THE General Outright!

K & R:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

[NI4NI]

3. IMO, Wes Clark would be a great Sec. of Defense!

[sybil]

11. Clark can't be SoD

he hasn't been out of the military long enough

We need Clark in the Oval Office, setting policy,

barring that, he needs to be SoS

[NI4NI]

15. Thanks for the info

How long would someone have to be retired from service before being eligible?

[Wesin04]

21. IMHO, Wes Clark would be a GREAT President

Why waste this man's talent and leadership on a cabinet position (and SecDef is one he could not hold)? He tells it like it is, knows what he's talking about, and could lead this country like no one currently running. Oh, almost forgot. He would also get the crossover vote in states that others couldn't hope to win. Why not run for President, Gen. Clark?:yourock:

[msongs]

4. so, Mr. Clark, what are you going to DO about it? nt

[pkspiegel]

23. Yes Wes!!!!

Please jump in! We need someone who actually knows what they aer doing!

[Boo Boo]

5. Let's send this puppy to the Greatest page.

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:

[slipslidingaway]

6. K&R one more needed. n/t

[IWantAChange]

7. Until FACTS mean more to the public than PERCEPTION we will be in Iraq...

[Frustratedlady]

8. I haven't check out Clark, but I'm curious why he doesn't fly?

He seems to have an awfully lot of pluses. Why doesn't/didn't he get more attention?

[pocoloco]

9. He just needs to run!

Won our Democratic primary in 04!

[jenmarie]

12. Because he's not

an "insider." Our entrenched electeds don't want to change things all that much, else their cushy, elitist lifestyles might be impacted in some way. For all the help Clark has given the party since his run for President, and his being a self-described liberal, a warrior/scholar who hates war. with extensive diplomatic experience, known and respected internationally, -- well, you'd think they'd be clamouring for him to run, but nope. And don't even get Clarkies started on Corporate Press's dealings with him. Once he stated how dangerous a consolidated media is to our country, he was fairly blacked out last time.

It's going to be up to US -- once he announces, to spread the word. Perhaps some of the candidates he stumped for in '05 and '06 will get on board, but I have a feeling the beltway Dems in Congress are quite happy with things the way they are for the most part, and the current candidates who won't change it too much (with the exception of Kucinich) -- Clark would do a whole lot of shakin' up.

[donjoofWeThePeople]

13. Look at this quote from Biden

that will explain a lot:
 "If I thought that the polling data out there now
actually reflected people making up their minds, I'd be really
worried. But I believe from being on the ground in Tupelo,
Miss., or out in Los Angeles or in Cedar Rapids, I don't think
people are even close to making up their mind. 
I think this is so wide open. Right now it's more like -- and
this is not a criticism of the process but an observation --
it's more like a celebrity show. It's interesting, when you
think about it." 
 
..."it's more like a celebrity show."  Right now, at
this moment, presidential politics is more like American Idol
than dealing with electing someone who will be the leader of
the most powerful country on earth. (At least formerly.) I
think Wes is smart to wait as more and more people come to
realize this.  He is a natural-born and gifted leader and in
order to pull this country away from the precipice, that's
what we'll need for the next few years.

[Frustratedlady]

14. I agree on the popularity contest.

Messing up the system is exactly what we need to be doing. We need a Wes Clark who doesn't belong to anybody to shake his fist and wake people up.

And, no. People are not making up their minds. It's way too early.

[The Wizard]

24. He hasn't

sold out to the corporate media, and as a result, he's been marginalized by those who want to determine who the candidate will be.
Wes is the best guy for the job, but he won't kiss corporate ass to get there.
I don't know if he should, and then tell the media whores to shut the fuck up and sit down when he gets lawfully elected. Well, there's a lot to ponder. Play to win by any means necessary and do the right thing once in power. The Repubes play to win and do everything wrong once in control. Can anyone cite one good thing the Bush Administration has done for the majority of Americans?
They have an all powerful propaganda machine that they abuse daily. We have to be willing to fight fire with fire. These Repubes are lying, corrupt, immoral war profiteers and serial killers who will stop at nothing to retain power and avoid the hangman. They make La Cosa Nostra look like a girl scout troop.

[The M Double]

10. I'm in...

Kick
Run Wes Run
etc etc

[johntully]

16. I posted a little more of this segment

You'll see it on th DU Political Video board
GENERAL ODOM:WITHDRAW AND CONSIDER IMPEACHMENT
or see it at http://youtube.com/tullycast

[DFW]

17. Wes Clark is probably too straight to run for president

I usually get to have a one on one with him once a year,
and what you saw there is EXACTLY what he is about. He
doesn't dance around questions. He tackles them head on and
gives you exactly what he thinks. The man you just saw with
Olbermann is the same man you would see, whether in the Oval
Office, as Secretary of State, or in your living room over
coffee after dinner.

How is anyone like that ever going to get elected president?

But VP or State? I can't imagine our doing any better.

[DeepModem Mom]

18. Thanks for an inside view, DFW! nt

[DFW]

20. Hey, I cheated!

I got it from an unimpeachable source! :-)

[Divine Discontent]

19. YOU GOT A BIG FAMILY YOU CAN TALK TO OR EMAIL?

send them this or any of Wes' long video speeches of late. If they want policy about what B*sh has done and his opinions go to youtube and type Wes Clark WWIII

this man is AMAZING... he has less so-called 'negatives' than my fave who's running (Edwards), and would be a brilliant President...

His fundraising would blow UP if he started running around Thanksgiving, the man commands attention when he speaks - and I think he's even more sound this time around (like Edwards) than in 04.

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<--- top '08 items & antib*sh stickers!

[chervilant]

22. I totally disagree

with one of Mr. Clark's statements: on the issue of impeaching Bush (AND Cheney), We The People are there and have been there for quite some time. Mr. Clark, and others like him, need to put their big girl panties on and get to work!

BE PROUD TO GET LOUD!!! END THE BUSH REGIME!!!!/i]

[Wesin04]

25. Clark

First, to use his proper title, its General Clark instead of Mr. Clark. But more importantly, he's not a member of Congress and would have no direct role in any impeachment proceedings. He's made his views on Bush and Cheney known for years, but that doesn't mean he gets a vote. As for 'we the people' being ready for impeachment, he's probably right. Certainly, those of us on DU and other Democratic blogs have been ready, but if we can't even get a vote on the war through the Senate due to the lack of a big enough majority, do you really think we could get an impeachment vote in the House? I don't think we're there quite yet. We need Clark to keep speaking out on his views, and we need some of these investigations in Congress to overturn something that the American public can relate to--something that would make them realize we must take the drastic action of impeachment.

[chervilant]

27. hmmmm...

First, "General" Clark dons his pants one leg at a time, just like the rest of us. I refuse to be taunted into using his honorific, if only because hierarchy is such anathema to me.

More importantly, in the latest polls I've read, 50% of We The People support impeachment. Only 38% supported impeachment when Nixon resigned. Our vainglorious politicians are lagging--is it because they fear the Corporatists who gild their lilies?

As a PUBLIC FIGURE who has multiple opportunities to pontificate via numerous media venues, Clark should be clear in his support of impeachment--if indeed he SUPPORTS impeachment. That would be truly courageous in today's political environment.

[xkenx]

26. When Clark is asked about Bush's transgressions/impeachment,

he usually says that we need investigations and full accountability about what went on pre-Iraq and the other Constitution-trashing issues.
His implicaton is that it could lead to impeachment.

[chervilant]

28. Well, then,

why does he stop short of calling for impeachment? Bush and Cheney have committed impeachable offenses--OFFENSES--plural, dammit!

50% of We the People support impeachment--that's 12% more than supported impeaching Nixon. Time for our politicians and pundits--and former military--to put up or shut up.

[Jai4WKC08]

29. I think you're confused

Got a link for that 50%?

I have heard slightly over 50% support impeaching Cheney, but fewer for Bush. Yet.

But what's really more important is that it's FAR less than 50% in states and districts like the one I live in. And that's how the next Congress will be elected -- by state and district, not a narrow margin on a national level.

I think General Clark's position is that the case has yet to be made to the typical citizen. He knows a lot of that is the media's fault, but it's true for whatever reason. The Congressional investigation provide more and more evidence every day, but it goes over most people's heads. It's really up to people like you and me to get the word out. Did you attend an "Enough!" demonstration last Sunday?

[chervilant]

30. No,

I don't have a link. And, thank you for clarifying your position.

You're right, it's up to you and me.

No, I didn't attend a demonstration last Sunday. I haven't done any activism for the past five weeks, because I was struggling with college algebra (after 37 years since my last math class...), and I needed to make at least a B. Now that college algebra is over (yay!! I got my B!), I'll be able to get back into full activist mode.

I am thankful for you and every other activist in our great nation.

[Jai4WKC08]

31. I was able to google the link to the only poll I've seen so far

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

It's about half-way down the front page and shows that, of all adult Americans, 45% favor and 46% oppose starting impeachment against Bush, with a +/- 3% margin of error. 46% of voters favor and 44% oppose.

The numbers on impeaching Cheney are 54%/40% and 50%/44% respectively with the same MoE.

I'm pretty sure I heard someone on Air America quote a poll that had impeaching Bush a little lower, like around 39% favoring, but I don't know whose poll it was or how long ago it was taken.