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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 04:57 PM
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Rachel Maddow on Obama's Afghanifuckup
 
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Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3MNbrhGO9s&feature=channel

with Dan Rather
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:11 PM
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1. K & R
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janedum Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 06:47 PM
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2. "Stan and Deliver" .. ? Who is "Stan"?
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 06:50 PM by janedum
oh! got it .. play on words ..
afghanistan ...
ugh!
not real funny.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:38 PM
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3. Virtually ALL prez candidates said they would finish Afghanistan. Get real.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:58 PM
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4. Ms. Maddow thinks she knows more than the Prez
She doesn't. I support Pres. O's handling of the Afghan mess thus far and look forward to him drawing down troops in 2011.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:10 PM
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5. don't hold your breath.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:13 PM
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6. Get ready for Obama the dumbass
McGeorge Bundy, Robert McNamara, they were some Harvard geniuses too, and Obama is traveling in their footsteps.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:19 AM
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8. There will be no drawdown in 2011
Thinking that all problems will be solved in 18 months and we'll then just pack up and leave demonstrates a significant ignorance regarding the history of Afghanistan. Do you really think that we're going to succeed where everyone else has failed going back to Alexander the Great?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:46 AM
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9. well, I would hope you are right - but I sincerely don't think so
that last thing in the world I would want is for the Obama Administration to stumble into a catastrophic blunder.

I still hold the President in high regard and feel that in many ways he remains the best hope this world has for defusing some of the most insolvable tensions.

Unfortunately, as Mr. Rather points out the on-the-ground realities of what Afghanistan is really like make success appear to me to be highly, highly improbable.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:01 AM
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7. Excellent analysis by Rather.
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:02 AM by mmonk
That is what I have learned by reading first hand accounts and he has been there. Recommended.
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