The Northerner
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:09 PM
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Ron Paul asks Hillary Clinton if she supports the Bush Doctrine |
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Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 04:11 PM by The Northerner
Though I don't always agree with Ron Paul on nearly any of his libertarian views but I have to admit that it's shameful that Clinton isn't as non-interventionist as Paul is considering that she actually voted in favor of the Iraq Resolution.
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:10 PM
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1. F' Ron Paul and all his deluded supporters. n/t |
The Northerner
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:13 PM
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What's wrong with his message?
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:16 PM
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4. You're joking, right, The Northerner? |
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Ron Paul is a whack job, and the only reason so many people embraced him was that he was against the war in Iraq. Most everything he stands for goes against every fiber of my being.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:14 PM
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20. Thank you for voicing my thoughts. |
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The fact that so many "pr0ogressives" think he is wonderful underscores my experience that "progressives" don't give a rip about poverty.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:42 PM
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29. Mine too. He's an idiot and a hypocrite, playing to a radical fringe. |
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:20 PM
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5. He raised good points. |
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:21 PM
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6. He is a more stable version of Lyndon Larouche. |
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His economic policies are nonsense and he's a closeted racist. Other than that, he's a Republican scumbag.
Remember, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:19 PM
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22. So why talk about the broken clock? Diversion much? |
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Wed Dec-02-09 10:22 PM
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35. Why? Because the OP seems to admire Ron Paul. The clock analogy |
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explains how a scumbag like Paul can be correct about sometime once in a while.
Duh.
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:38 PM
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7. Get real this is NOT a republican forum - Paul is a fucking republican, votes republican |
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Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 04:55 PM by LaPera
Republicans are the most repulsive creatures on this earth....power, greed and hate is what motivates these slimy swine.
They care nothing about America, only how they can use it to profit and use our tax paid military to steal resources and exploit cheap labor and rape the environment where ever in the world they decide to steal & abuse for profit.
The republican corporate ideology is to give all our tax dollars to corporations, directly & indirectly via tax cuts, subsidies, incentives, while taking jobs overseas paying no taxes, hiding their money and want even more tax dollars, despising any of OUR tax dollars for social programs to help the people.
Yet the republicans want to privatize everything, in order to fuck over the consumers with their price fixing & collusion, as well as constantly busting the workers only voice, the unions, which is also part of republican ideology, busting unions!
Republicans despise the poor and worship the wealthy and their corporations as well as military imperialism.
Paul is just another republican bullshiting fraud with a new angle to suck in the idiot moderates who will vote republican ideology in a heartbeat...Moderates have no ideology of their own just whatever sounds good at the moment and they turn their foolish sheep heads and follow and vote for a fucking republican...Stupid assholes!
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Wed Dec-02-09 06:00 PM
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17. Be careful, The Northerner... |
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Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:15 PM by lyonspotter
A lot of people here at DU have an 'a priori' bias against anything Ron Paul.
(I found that out through experience).
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:29 PM
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:06 PM
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Wed Dec-02-09 08:38 PM
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31. Blinded people. Ideology trumps intelligence and honesty |
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Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 08:44 PM by Go2Peace
I don't support Ron Paul, his advocacy of libertarianism is just stupid. But there are a few things he is right about, such as our "conquest" mentality.
It is a little disturbing that even "liberals" in this age have a difficult time seeing things as complex and not Black or white.
I tend to think it is like what happened with hippy liberals" in the 60s. Many people just "go with the flow", they want to be onboard a "movement", but they really don't think deeply about the principles involved. It is those kinds of people that ended up becoming Reagan followers and cunsumerists in the 80s. No roots or understanding.
I believe we have our share of these currently. They just hopped on board the "change" wagon, but really don't get how fundamental our problems are. So when confronted with something that they cannot understand they just go with whatever is popular at the moment, and it is popular to be angry at people like Paul and Nader and treat them like republicans, even though they are fairly different from Republicans.
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:11 PM
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2. "In what respect, Ron?" |
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:46 PM
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8. Ron Paul shows he is less of a war monger than |
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Hillary Clinton or the new Democrat star child, Barak Obama..
Of course you need to attack him!
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:00 PM
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11. I could give a shit about Ron Paul - I was making fun of that idiot Palin |
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He can go back to monging war or not. Doesn't bother me.
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:05 PM
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are the new war monger's. Not Ron Paul.
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:08 PM
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:17 PM
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14. Bullshit...oh, and fuck ron paul |
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:22 PM
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23. Intelligent response is so not your thing, is it? |
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Wed Dec-02-09 10:01 PM
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34. Oh, and that was such an intelligent question |
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that ron paul asked Hillary.
You eat that shit up.
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Thu Dec-03-09 12:28 AM
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36. Whether the Bush Doctrine is still in effect? |
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Wed Dec-02-09 05:56 PM
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16. and more of a homophobe and sexist than the two of them combined...n/t |
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:16 PM
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21. And the fact that he would rather people like me die doesn't matter to you in the least. |
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:24 PM
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25. Star Child is a lil crazy. Why not just fight the ad hominem attacks? |
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See, now I think you are just trying to stir up trouble.
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Thu Dec-03-09 01:28 AM
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38. That was funny and painful. We mocked Palin for her non-answers. |
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Gates, Clinton (and Obama) get the pass.
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:48 PM
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sitting behind HRC playing games on their I phone?
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Wed Dec-02-09 04:59 PM
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10. hearings sponsored by Deer Park water - 'enjoy Deer Park' |
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as we water down our answers, you water down your thirst.
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Mithreal
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:12 PM
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19. I honestly don't give a damn where truth comes from be it a D, I, R, whatever. |
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Ignore the comments from people on DU that make ad hominem attacks.
They apply similar tactics to true Progressive and Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party politicians as well.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:23 PM
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24. That's actually a good question. I bet she DOES! |
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:32 PM
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26. Agreed, sure sounded like it. |
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:34 PM
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27. Civil Liberties and Foreign Policy |
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Those who trash Ron Paul on every front are willfully ignorant. Ron Paul has a great record of standing up for civil liberties and as an advocate for a responsible foreign policy. Obviously his economic policies are at best naive, and his monetary policy, correct me if I'm wrong, of wanting to go back on the gold standard is entirely unworkable.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:38 PM
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28. Yeah, he's an odd one. |
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He's personally against abortion, but strictly principled on not allowing the Federal Government to ban abortion, where most right-wingers who scream about 'personal freedom' and all that empty nonsense, are first in line for the folks wanting the Federal Government to ban abortion.
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Wed Dec-02-09 07:50 PM
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30. Oh, of course, oh Compassionate One. We poor folk are so WILLFULLY IGNORANT |
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because we don't want Ron Paul to annihilate us.
Yup, that sounds about right.
For the right.
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Wed Dec-02-09 08:46 PM
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33. nuance doesn't go well here. Good luck. I get what you are saying. |
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Wed Dec-02-09 08:42 PM
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32. ......he's nothing but a pig in a wig |
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Thu Dec-03-09 12:51 AM
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37. The status of the Bush Doctrine v. Ron Paul? |
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and a bunch of nudniks choose to whine about Ron Paul and ignore the question entirely?
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