John Foster-Pipelines-the new Great Game 2 of 9

[Joanne98]

Run time: 09:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPEgk87AANc   Posted on YouTube: December 01, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: December 03, 2009 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 1580

 

Segment 2: Point 1 - Afghanistan is an energy bridge. John Foster, energy economist - Steelworker's Hall, Toronto, Canada - 30 November 2009 - A pipeline through a troubled land - Afghanistan, Canada and the new Great Game


Very imformative. Great maps. Explains how Iran is trying to put through a competing pipeline.

[Mithreal]

1. K&R Everyone should know why we are there sooner or later.

[JohnyCanuck]

2. A former UK diplomat said much the same thing in a recent speech.

In a recent speech the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, said the reason for the Afghanistan invasion was to secure a pipeline route through Afghanistan and to ensure US access to Turkmenistan's and Uzbekistan's natural gas reources.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MQoG5wfx5g&feature=PlayList&p=D14E6E7441DB373D&index=1

[JDPriestly]

3. I cannot believe that Obama would prioritize a pipeline over the lives

of American soldiers. That is just a barbaric choice, and I don't agree with a lot of what he is done, but I don't think that he is that uncaring and cruel.

I can imagine that he has been somehow sold a bill of goods that there is some sort of secret contract that binds us to an agreement to provide the security for the building of the pipeline. But even that, I think, is pretty preposterous. There are other ways to get gas out of the USSR. And, besides, how reasonable is it to try to ship gas from Afghanistan or Pakistan to the U.S.? It makes no sense. That is not our problem.

On second thought, it might be that Obama would prioritize the pipeline in the hope that it would discourage the use of nuclear energy in some of the underdeveloped countries in the area -- a very dangerous proposition in any country, but especially in countries prone to corruption or lacking widespread scientific knowledge. (I include the U.S. as one of those countries. Ordinary Americans have no understanding of the dangers of using nuclear energy and the cost of maintaining nuclear safety.)

[Andronex]

5. Right...

This war has nothing to do with potentially trillions of dollars in revenue for western big oil, or the strategic control of the flow of oil and gas to remain under western control, ensuring the US status as the worlds first superpower. No it's because we are the good guys and they attacked us because they hate our freedoms.

Bin laden was very useful when he was our friend promoting US expansionist objectives, and now that he is our our enemy he is even more useful in promoting US expansionist objectives...

There are no limits to the naivety of the american public, "they" depend on it.

[JDPriestly]

6. Whatever profit is to be made from a pipeline would not justify the cost.

That is why I don't think that is the reason.

[Mithreal]

7. Depends on how you measure cost.

None of us is a CEO of a multi-billion dollar company or would consider controlling the world's energy resources.

Of course we don't think like they do.

We have had more than eight years to understand what these wars are about. That not enough time to have suspicions? The lies are worn out and our leaders are barely trying to maintain them.

[Andronex]

8. We pay the cost...

but they collect the profits, just like the bailouts, they have no shame, no morals, no humanity. One million dead and 2.5 million refugees just in Iraq for nothing else but lies and greed.

[dixiegrrrrl]

11. If you truly do have an open mind, read "The Grand Chessboard"

and/or "The Great Game" wherein Obama's foreign policy adviser *since before the election*
Brzezinski has outlined the geo-political ( gas and oil and power) reasons for us to be in and stay in the Middle East and Afghanistan, he wrote it in 1997 !!!! And the plan has been played out first by Bush via the PNAC doctrine, and now by
Obama.
It does not matter what motive we ascribe to Obama's thinking, what matters is we are STILL massively involved in that region, and in LIberia, which is floating on a lake of oil.
Read...learn.

[swilton]

4. K&R&B (bookmarked)

Great find!

The presentor alludes to the works of Michael Klare - must reads for understanding where we are and where this is leading.

[xiamiam]

9. thank you so very much..I just watched all 9 parts of this on you tube

highly recommend...i'll bet however, that few will watch...even here...much better to just have opinions without facts

[dixiegrrrrl]

10. This IS the whole single reason for all of the Midlde East "war on terror" BS

which many people have been saying for a long long time.

Absolute must-see, K&R.

[dixiegrrrrl]

12. adding this and kicking..

Why is Afghanistan so important?

A glance at a map and a little knowledge of the region suggest that the real reasons for Western military involvement may be largely hidden.

Afghanistan is adjacent to Middle Eastern countries that are rich in oil and natural gas. And though Afghanistan may have little petroleum itself, it borders both Iran and Turkmenistan, countries with the second and third largest natural gas reserves in the world. (Russia is first.)

Turkmenistan is the country nobody talks about. Its huge reserves of natural gas can only get to market through pipelines. Until 1991, it was part of the Soviet Union and its gas flowed only north through Soviet pipelines. Now the Russians plan a new pipeline north. The Chinese are building a new pipeline east. The U.S. is pushing for "multiple oil and gas export routes." High-level Russian, Chinese and American delegations visit Turkmenistan frequently to discuss energy. The U.S. even has a special envoy for Eurasian energy diplomacy.

More
http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/198-natural-resources/48020-afghanistan-and-the-new-great-game.html

Video link in OP is a good way to see essentially the same thing, I included the above article link for those who prefer to read about it.
Either way, this is a key issue, please share it with as many as you can.