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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:14 AM
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Thom Hartmann tells a caller to go to hell
 
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:23 AM
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1. it happens, I'm glad Thom told that guy off.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:30 AM
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2. Thom shut that guy down with the facts
Reagan did indeed cut and run in Lebanon. I am sure it shook that guys worldview completely, way to go Thom.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:30 AM
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51. And the guy didn't
even know that Reagan pulled out. He had all the RW talking points down but didn't even know Saint Ronnie pulled out. I think we can all agree that we wish G H W Bush would have pulled out.

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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:32 AM
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3. What did you expect from a nit wit that ignored historic facts and just kept
running wing nut talking points? It's what nit wits do best, stick their head up their ass and repeat what wing nut radio and fixed news tells them, the scary brown people are lurking in the shadows getting ready to attack them. They are left alone in the dark because the democratic party is weak on keeping america safe. Nit wits are very good at being afraid and giving up freedom for the illusion of safety, it's how they live their lives, someone has an opinion thats not the same as theirs, they must be shut up, someone doesn't look like them, lock em up they might be criminals.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:36 AM
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4. to any lurking right wingers: you are the dumbest this country has to offer
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 11:37 AM by fascisthunter
and what's even more pathetic, is you don't even want to realize it, because you are COWARDS!

Good on you Thom!
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:02 PM
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26. Really? Try posting "We were mislead on War" and watch what kind of geniuses give a rebuttal
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 04:02 PM by Techn0Girl
Right wingers definitely do NOT own the market on Stupidity.
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:56 PM
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27. Agreed
Even among anti-war groups I've heard some really asinine defenses of capitalistic greed and imperialist policies. Its like some believe that these actions are case specific and not systemic.
Exit polls in 2004 showed that about 40% of Democratic voters believed that Saddam Hussein was connected
to 9/11. Hard to run a democracy when you deal with the ingrained belief system where facts don't matter.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:34 AM
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52. That ingrained belief system
is a result of a complicit M$M. There is no question that maintaining the illusion was part of the M$M gig. This is why 40% of Democratic voters were inclined to believe the official story (lie).
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:03 AM
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58. lol
I wasn't even gonna go there
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:42 AM
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5. How many times does someone insult the host before he cuts them off?
I heard at least twice maybe three or more before Thom let him go. The guy had no point to make except war war war. Thom and I were right when Bush attacked Afghanistan and we are right now, war is not the answer. It is interesting that most people now agree and this guy just can't stand it.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:54 AM
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6. In fact he insulted him 4 times.
He also insulted everyone that was listening and everyone that agrees with Thom.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:35 PM
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25. I agree.
Jason's little passive/aggressive insults were typical bullying tactics, and demonstrated exactly what kind of person he is: a Jerk.

Jason from Ft Worth, the facts are not on your side.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:56 AM
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7. None of the cons can accept anything other then what their over lords tells them
to accept. I remember the nit wits back in the late 60's trying to push Nixon into nuking Nam back to the stone age. They even got mad at the news media for reporting Nixons exit strategy for Nam was to invade Cambodia, they were also mad at the Dem's for stopping Nixons attempt to invade Cambodia. 90% of the wing nuts think Nam could have been won, They don't get the fact that armies are best at fighting other armies not criminal actions, the armed forces make lousy police.
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ThomThom Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:08 PM
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17. Yes good points.
and they condemn anti Nam people by saying we were spitting on the returning troops when that didn't even happen and most returning vets joined the antiwar movement. They are indeed blind.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:11 PM
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9. I agree with you
I wonder how many tours of duty the caller has served, since he's so pro-war and all.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:46 PM
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31. Well welcome Thom.
That is the first time I ever heard him loose it....but it was well deserved.

What I sensed from the caller is anger...he is angry about something that may have nothing to do with politics...perhaps because of a fear of some kind.
It is the only explanation I can think of for someone who seems basically intelligent, to suspend logic to such a degree as that.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:08 PM
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8. He doesn't tell him to go to hell.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 12:10 PM by go west young man
He says "Jason, to hell with it" and then hangs up on him. Listen closely at 2:55. Hit repeat and rinse. It's to hell with it. Thom is nicer than that.
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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:21 PM
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23. Isn't it funny how people can misquote media figures.
Chances are that it's not the OP's fault; probably the headline on the youtube vid... But still.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:13 AM
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46. Yeah, who was that idiot who posted this?
And how the heck would he know what Thom Hartmann said?

:D

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:35 PM
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10. Gotta love Thom!!! nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:45 PM
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11. God I love Thom
:thumbsup:
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:53 PM
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12. When they rarely change their argument sooner or later anyone snaps with them.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 12:54 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:54 PM
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13. Kick their bigoted @sses, Thom.
lol
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:54 PM
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14. Conservs can't grasp the nuance between a few bad people and innocent citizens of a country
Imagine if they leveled your entire subdivision and all the innocent civilians who lived there; because of one bad criminal somewhere in the city.

Conservatives cannot grasp that real people live on the other locations on the Earth and not just expendable foreigners.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:18 PM
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15. Reality is conservatives would destroy a whole city to get rid of one
bad person in the city as long as their house wasn't destroyed in the process. Remember your dealing with folks that are self centered, egotistical, self serving, it's ok for them to have welfare, it's ok for them to get good jobs, it's ok for them to get paid high wages, they deserve those things because only they worked hard to get those things and they are the only ones who pay taxes. It's like they believe the poor don't create jobs, they never stop to think that if poor don't buy a businesses products then that business will cut back on the product they make which means less jobs.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:51 PM
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16. Conservatives would destroy reality if they could...
... they know that b*tch has a liberal bias, so it has it coming...
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:39 AM
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53. And these same conservatives
imagine themselves to be "Christians".
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:29 PM
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18. I was reading in "The Blank Slate" that
in situations where there is no recourse to, like, "call 911", signals must be sent that say "don't fuck with me". This is (one reason) why tribes attack each other, or gangs and the mob have murder initiations and that kind of thing. What kind of signal does it send when the US gets itself into 2 (3 if you count Vietnam) machismo displays that they can't win or deliver on? And it's obvious to everyone on the planet we cannot "win" the ones we're in now. This also has to do with why many feel we cannot just leave all at once but must save face somehow by a "reasoned" and orderly "withdrawal".

Anyway... interesting ideas to muse over. Much more helpful than "they're evil doers". But then these new fangled ideas are science... and we know how unreliable science is!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:08 PM
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38. Could you please say more about the "Don't fuck with me" messsage?
Does it pertain to dealing with bullies, too?
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:48 PM
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19. Thom, you look great without the facial hair
Just thought I'd let you know.

I heard this segment on the radio broadcast....great to have a chance to see your face. The guy wasn't interested in intelligent discussion from the get-go, so no big loss there. The constant small insults must be hard to bear.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:26 PM
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34. I agree. nt
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:39 AM
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57. No! He's cute clean shaven, but he was REALLY cute with a beard.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:51 PM
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20. good going Thom!
remind people that there are suffering human beings behind those numbers. Jason needs to grow up!
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:00 PM
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21. Diplomacy is an art. Next time, Thom, finish with, "and enjoy the trip!"
That oughta smooth things over, right?
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:12 PM
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22. The republiclowns hate that the facts have a liberal bias.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 03:21 PM
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24. Wow, that was amazing and absolutely justified
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:04 PM
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28. Yep. Gotta get my Thom podcast going. I've not resubscribed since
he left AAR and that was the only reason for having an AAR subscription. Though, I did like Jon Elliot, too.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:24 PM
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29. I listen to Thom every day at work
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 05:24 PM by Zodiak
As a scientist, I do not need someone screaming in my ear or mixing in fart jokes while I am working on manuscripts, etc. (the occasional losing it like this segment is fun and not too distracting). Thom's show is on during my most productive part of the day, and it is nice to hear sober analysis while I am conducting sober analysis.

Thom is a populist liberal Democrat like me, and so we are closely related ideologically.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:01 PM
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33. Interisting...
I can see how Rush could mess you all up.

Has there ever been a study of how sounds effect the productivity of the workplace?
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:07 PM
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44. Funny, it sounds like we're in a similar line of work, and I love
listening to Thom every day for the very same reason! :thumbsup:
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:31 PM
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30. I was watching Thom Hartmann's excellent show on Free Speech Television (FSTV)
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 05:31 PM by GreenTea
this morning an I thought, extremely cool Thom and very well justified.
:bounce:
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:00 PM
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32. Good for Hartmann
He's too intelligent to listen to a guy who only knows 1/10 of the story.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:28 PM
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35. Thom is the greatest. I especially make sure I catch the brunch with Bernie every Fri.
You go Thom. You let that idiot go on too long before you set him straight.
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marcmanv007 Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 06:35 PM
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36. Thom is Such a Fair Guy-Level Headed Too..
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 06:35 PM by marcmanv007
He lets those right wing wack jobs spew their vile everyday and you know they won't give us equal time on their talk shows. Thom is such a level headed guy and so fair with the opposition. He has a right to lose it once in awhile.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:11 PM
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37. Thom is my teacher every morning.............
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 07:11 PM by BlueJac
he is a great American!
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:11 PM
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39. Damn! Thom went Malloy on his ass!
Unfortunately, he apologized profusely for it on today's show. Malloy he's not.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:12 PM
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40. Hey, Jason,,.......
This is a clue for you..... Thom just expressed the anger that all of us have been feeling towards bullies like you.

Thom took your shit for longer than many of us would have.

Its clear that you neither want to contribute to a saner society, nor care about other human beings.

To hell with it!
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 08:34 PM
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41. I love Thom. n/t
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:31 PM
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42. Its a shame Hartmann doesn't bring out some of these facts:
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BluDemocratGirl Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 09:58 PM
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43. I don't blame Thom
'cause Jason and the rest of the right chicken wingers are so out of touch.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 12:12 AM
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45. He did not tell the guy to go to hell
listen to it. he said "to hell with it" he wasn't going to argue with the fool
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 02:05 AM
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47. We love you Thom. I love Malloy and he won't mind I call you "the best" because you are the educator
Malloy is the shaman -- and today you got hit with both: the informative, heartfelt, emotional response to the incessant goading of the insane people you have to deal with every day at work.

Thank you.

You got our back. We got yours.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 03:58 AM
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48. Thom and Mike are very much loved.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 05:26 PM
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62. They bare their souls for us -- each has their own way of being cool about it. Not an easy job.
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FlyByNight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:22 AM
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49. Nothing wrong with calling out stupid people
The caller was the essence of the "low information" voter.

Thom is, by far, the best liberal host out there: very well read, passionate and grounded. I'm a fan of Malloy too. I guess Thom, in this case, channeled a bit of Malloy - not necessarily a bad thing.

:thumbsup:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 06:59 AM
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50. I love Thom
Good for him. He always makes these wingnuts who call him look like idiots.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:55 AM
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54. Actually Thom said to his producer "To hell with it" and did not order Jason to Hades...
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 08:01 AM by stlsaxman
Not that Thom would have been wrong to do so- but he's way better than that!

This is Progressive Talk Radio at it's best.

on edit: oops- he said "it" not "him"...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 08:01 AM
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55. that guy calls every week or so
and Thom always lets him on the air. I wish he would just tell the audience, "Jason called again, but he's one of the few wing nuts we don't engage"
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Don Draper Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 10:29 AM
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56. Thom is my favorite
I don't think I have ever seen him so pissed. That caller was an absolute jerk off. I used to be a conservative when I was younger and have found most of those I affiliated with were as dense and caloused to the suffering of others as that caller. It's as though they don't think those in the middle east are human beings ( I bet that caller also would claim to be a Christian .....very Christ like attitude).

Thom Hartmann is the best......if he blows up on people from time to time, that's fine with me.

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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:25 AM
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59. K & R
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lovelyrita Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:35 AM
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60. I listen/watch the show daily. The amount of conservative
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 11:40 AM by lovelyrita
callers has gone up significantly and they have been getting crazier. I am surprised he did not lose it sooner.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 11:59 AM
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61. Absolutely right!
You're right - they're even crazier than when the war criminal, Bush, was in the White House. I'm glad to see Thom finally losing his cool with them. I've done so a long time ago. Any debate with any of them is a complete waste of time. They're freaking morons plain and simple! You hit them with facts and their eyes glaze over. Besides, talking with them is the same as talking to war criminals since they support illegal invasions, murder of civilians, etc. They're nothing more than sub human scum and embarrass all Americans to the rest of the world.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 07:29 PM
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63. k&r for the title alone
thom hartmann is the man!
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