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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 11:55 AM
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Rachel Maddow & Ron Wyden discuss progressive influence on HCR, abortion
 
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She raises the possibility of progressive senators actually having some influence on the process. Imagine!
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WyldRogue Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:17 PM
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1. Talk is just talk....
...because ACTIONS speak louder than words. We're going to end up with a biased HCR bill that improves the HCI monopoly and leaving us again to fund the richest Corporatists, make all the so-called Dems pat each other on the back for passing a never-ending bonus to the HCI for legislation that is nothing but contrived patchwork to appease the lower denominators while We the People are left with not much of an option except for a few TOKEN proviso's and amendments (as long as we keep paying).

Progressives are not to be found any longer and the so called HCR we will get WILL reflect that. But as long as the Elites feel good passing this atrocity, it's all good right?
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:41 PM
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2. I don't mean to be mean, Ron......
But you ain't getting shit for support from the other side of the aisle. Every single one of the 40 Republican Senators will vote against this on a $1000 bet. The Dems are already trading away progressive ideals. The best you can hope for is that the Blue Dog traitors don't ram it too far up your ass.

And Ben Nelson is sincere in his views? If that's the case, what's that chauvinistic motherfucker doing in the Democratic Party?
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