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GoLeft TV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 11:09 AM
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Papantonio: The Change Myth
 
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President Obama ran a campaign based on "Change", but after almost a year in office, we have to ask if anything has really changed. We still have Wall Street insiders calling the shots on Obama's economic team; 2 wars going on at the moment with an additional 30,000 troops headed to Afghanistan; and just as much secrecy as Bush gave us. Is this the "Change" we believed in?
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 11:22 AM
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1. eh
A good idea that deserves a better video
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 12:10 PM
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2. Obama's verbal tic
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 12:16 PM
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3. Be careful...
Edited on Thu Dec-10-09 12:28 PM by lyonspotter
You can't really say these sorts of things here on DU...or you run the risk of being called a "troll" (against DU rules, btw), a Freeper, etc. (First hand experience talking here).

I'm not sure when people will wake up and see that Obama works for the banks, military industrial complex, and a lot of the same people Bush worked for. He is not a Democratic, Progressive President. Big finance, insurance companies, etc., are the people he truly answers to.

I voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. This time, though, I wanted Kucinich! The mainstream candidate rarely has the best interests of the 'little person' in mind.

You are right: this is nowhere NEAR the "change" we wanted, believed in, or were promised. Thank you for posting the vid.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 12:34 PM
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4. Maybe the change needs to be driven from the bottom
There is a great case to be made, both by the video in the post and the George Carlin video in one of the replies, that we cannot expect any change from those with such a huge stake in the status quo. Obama is a millionaire. He is a member of both the political and economic elites of this nation. He isn't going to do anything to threaten that status quo.

Americans have the government they deserve because it's the government they tolerate. As Carlin says, there's a big club in American, and the majority of Americans are not in it. We finance it. We serve the members. We rally around charismatic members of the elite and sing their praises while hoping for a little of that trickle-down they keep promising.

We send tens of thousands from the working class to die defending the "vital national interests" of the ruling class.

It's time for civil disobedience. It's time for boycotts, hunger strikes, general strikes. ANYTHING that will send a message to the ruling class that the peasants have had all they are going to take.

Just a thought.
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 01:06 PM
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5. Absolutely...
It's not "just a thought" you have proposed here. It is a great thought!

Thanks.
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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-10-09 03:51 PM
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6. As an unrealistic, naive, infantile, whiny, pony-wanting...
...Kucinich supporter, I can only say "CHANGE" is, and always was, nothing more than a bumper sticker slogan. That's why I'm neither surprised nor disappointed. The people get the politicians they deserve.

Congratulations!
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motorcityliberal Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:51 PM
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7. People need a reality check
I'm starting to believe there are some on our side that wants the Sarah Palins of the political right back in power so they can do what they know best bitch, whine and complain. When I voted for then Senator Obama I didn't expect I was getting Captain Progressive, I knew he was a middle of the road slightly liberal guy so I knew what I was voting for and the man said during the campaign he was going to do something about Afghanistan so if there's people going holy shit why is he increasing the troop levels are full of it.

Again this is the problem there are people who rather bitch and complain than help getting more Alan Grayson types elected into the house and senate, Obama is only one part of the government he can't force senators to do what their pimps in the health care industry don't want them to do. If you don't like Ben Nelson or Blanche Lincoln find someone else that will fight for the public option then. But again actually doing something is hard-work so it's easier to complain, make useless Youtube videos and posting comments on blogs than actually fighting for a better Democratic party.

For anyone wanting to compare Barack Obama to George W. Bush they might as well compare "The Godfather" to "Twilight" or The L.A. Lakers to the New Jersey Nets, I have a hard time believing President Obama is sitting somewhere in the white house like having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan say what you what you will he has done positive things in his short time being president. While he has done things I disagree with i.e letting John Yoo go and not going after the Bush White house for torture, but I'm going to give him time.


I'm sensing 2010 is going to be a mini 1994 where liberals and democrats are going to take their ball and run home to momma to complain because the Dems didn't fight hard for some social fill in the blank issue while the tea party nuts get the candidates they want elected and cutting the Dems lead.

If liberals and Dems let what happen in 1994 and 2000 replay themselves those folks have lost all rights to complain because they allow it to happen.
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