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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:29 PM
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NOT ALL WARS ARE JUST! SOME ARE JUST WAR! Congressman Dennis Kucinich
 
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:31 PM
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1. is that the ufo guy?
i think i saw him on bill o'reilly.
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glen123098 Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:33 PM
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2. Why do you watch Bill O'reilly?
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:35 PM
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4. to hear what DK has to say, of course
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:44 PM
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35. I'm alerting you. nt
This horseshit against Kucinich is ridiculous.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:54 PM
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52. Didn't Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton also appear on Bill O's hour of fun and games?
I am asking you, since I don't watch that show. Maybe you can let us know as an avid Bill O watcher...

LOL
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:37 PM
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5. Ugly....very very ugly comment
:thumbsdown:
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:39 PM
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7. saying i saw him on o'reilly is ugly?
only comment i made.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:26 AM
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39. you called him the "ufo" guy. THAT's the 'ugly' part. You LIE
when you say, "I saw him on o'reilly" (as IF that's the only thing you said!)

Your whole original post is:

<snip>
seeinfweggos (186 posts) Fri Dec-11-09 08:31 PM
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1. is that the ufo guy?
i think i saw him on bill o'reilly.
<snip>
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:42 PM
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56. Is it now
"ugly" to tell the truth? Calling someone a liar for mentioning an inconvenient truth seems more "ugly" to me.

The fact that DK believes that he saw a UFO does not make him a bad person, except possibly in the minds of his over-protective fan club:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,306616,00.html

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:59 PM
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58. Childish games are often just what they seem
the games of a child's mind; A child's mind is usually ignorant of many things and has only games to play.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:40 PM
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8. self delete nt
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 09:42 PM by slipslidingaway


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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:40 PM
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9. this forum's just fine, but thanks for the suggestion
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:12 PM
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27. Just so you know silly....ufo doent automatically mean men from mars...
It means ANY thing you cannot identify.
When people claim he was claiming to see a flying saucer, it only reveals their ignorance of what ufo means.
You need to come up with a better reason to hate the guy.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:44 PM
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34. Hey, thanks for proving my point about the orchestrated talking points about DK
If anybody want to check my journals, they've been at this since July.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:11 PM
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49. They can't handle truth, so they want to tear down the man who has the balls to speak it

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:59 PM
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53. I guess it is easier to shut down the messenger when they know they can't tackle his message
or at least they can't do so in a remotely intellectually honest way. Ergo the whole passive aggressive snark we see being flung from the "hope and change" brigade.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 06:50 PM
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62. oh the list is getting so long now of who they are trying to discredit..
please feel free to add to the list..

just the past two weeks..

Helen Thomas

Matt Taibbi

J.Turley

David Swanson

and of course they threw Dennis under the bus long AGO..

ANYONE WITH TRUTH..IS THROWN UNDER THE BUS BY THE POM POM TROOPS!

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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:00 AM
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40. Are you the idiot guy?
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:08 AM
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42. Keep using rightwinger methods to argue and people will begin to wonder
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 06:32 AM
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43. The UFO guy?
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 06:53 AM by Enthusiast
Let me rephrase that. Why would you characterize Dennis is such a fashion? This makes me angry.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:10 PM
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48. Dennis Kucinich is the best politician we have...


Did you even listen to his speech?

More brilliance in that one minute then Obama has shown in his entire Presidency.
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:53 PM
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57. Was he delivering left-wing or right-wing opinion in the O'reilly interview?
Or you don't remember?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:34 PM
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3. As usual Dennis tells it like it is... I would dare anyone to tell me that what he just said
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 09:35 PM by LakeSamish706
is untrue. Both Afghanistan and Iraq are not just wars and never were. Oh, and lets get the F*** out of both countries ASAP.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:37 PM
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6. He didn't say all wars are wrong and war is never the answer- what a war monger
:sarcasm:
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:41 PM
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10. Always speaking the truth as it should be told, Kucinich will deserve large place in the...
enlightened history books.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:43 PM
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11. Sure wish we could get this guy elected... Now this is the President
that we need to have out there fighting for the middle class.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:49 PM
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13. Agreed, he would not have silenced not for profit advocates. n/t
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:50 PM
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14. nobody seems to want to vote for him
he probably won't even be in congress after the next primary.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:53 PM
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15. And that would be our loss actually.... Dennis always tells it like it is.
According to the last several polls on DU, many seem to like Dennis well enough.
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:58 PM
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16. maybe we could get a dem who doesn't vote the same as boener on health care
and there are no polls on du. those are called polls but they are not statistical representations of jack shit.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:03 PM
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18. They were polls by DU'ers saying how they felt about Dennis...
I don't give a rats ass about your statistical representations or your jack shit. Many on DU happen to think very highly of Dennis, and of course I am one of them.
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:06 PM
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19. again, those aren't polls
any more than monopoly money is money
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:08 PM
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20. Whatever! Whatever you wish to call them... Dennis is well thought of here for his honesty. n/t
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 10:06 AM
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46. +1
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:14 PM
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59. Your posts are so odd I have to ask
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 02:18 PM by ooglymoogly
Tell us what benefits you get from supporting the insurance industry and their supporters, for denigrating Dennis, their fiercest and most vocal adversary and advocate of meaningful healthcare reform.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:00 PM
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17. Unfortunately people are too influenced by the corporate media and are...
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 10:01 PM by slipslidingaway
uncomfortable when someone speaks the truth.

While most were cheering on the night of the Iraq invasion, Kucinich commented that he was thinking of all the innocent people whose homes were being bombed. After the bombs stopped in Lebanon he was one of the only, if not the only, member of Congress to visit the region.

If nothing else he at least makes us think about what we are doing to people in other countries - not such a bad thing IMO.










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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:14 PM
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22. i can't think of another politician with such little popular support that gets as much media attenti...
except maybe ron paul, his would-be running mate. hell fux has him on all the time. i wonder why.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:26 PM
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23. There should be another bash Kucinich thread you can post in. n/t
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:29 PM
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25. i like this one
and never end a sentence in a preposition - says the girl who doesn't use capital letters. :-)

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:32 PM
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30. Then keep posting here and kick the thread - a big thanks! n/t
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:08 AM
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38. kick
merry festivus
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:14 PM
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28. Sheep dont want to vote for him...republicans don't want to vote for him...
Thinking people do.
We just need to get more people to think for themselves.
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:30 PM
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26. Amazing statements!!!
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 10:30 PM by lyonspotter
Thankfully we have a Kucinich to speak sense in a very tumultuous time...
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:15 PM
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29. We would be looking at a much better future if he were president...
that's for sure.
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:33 PM
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31. If only... (NT)
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:50 PM
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67. Yes! And the people in his cabinet should include:
Russ Feingold, Sheldon Whitehouse, Robert Wexler, Maxine Waters, Barbare Boxer and, of course, Bernie Sanders.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:48 PM
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12. I wish he were my Rep
not the New Democratic Party slimeball I have now.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:27 PM
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24. Me too, mine have been all Repubs :( n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:12 PM
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21. K & R. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:42 PM
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32. That's my man DK!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:42 PM
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33.  the dlc must be still hiring
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:45 PM
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36. No doubt, but they keep hiring all these guys named Iggy.
What're the odds?
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:45 PM
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37.  Yep. Look at my journals. nt
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sheldon Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:27 AM
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41. Dennis rocks. Rightards fear him because he speaks the truth.
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gadjitfreek Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:20 AM
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44. If only I lived in a country where...
...a man like Dennis Kucinich could be President. He has the integrity, determination, clear thinking and attitude that we so desperately need in all of our leaders. Including, sorry to say, the current President.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 07:22 AM
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45. Dennis is right about making an argument against a mentality that says "War is Peace. "
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:02 PM
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47. Good news bad news
The bad news is the UFO smear of Dennis is alive and well. Given the stats on how many people have seen UFO's in the USA - his revelations are downright commonplace. We all know people in our lives that claim to have seen UFO's, or have seen them first hand themselves.

The good news is that the sinister forces behind our government and military industrial congressional complex have not seen fit to WELLSTONE Dennis yet.

However, that may just prove they're letting Dennis live only because he makes a good punching bag for them and is worth more to them alive than dead, for the moment.

-90% Jimmy
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:38 PM
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50. Might be on to something. They don't want another martyr like Wellstone. Yet.
Alive and marginalized is working just fine for them. When you finally control 90% of the media, then assassination becomes less necessary.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:39 PM
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51. Grayson/Kucinich in 2012. There. I said it.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:17 PM
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54. Thanks for the video, slipslidingaway.
K&R.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 01:23 PM
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55. Thanks Dennis! Here is another song for you!
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 04:47 PM
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60. Thanks for the video - DK rocks
I had the honor of hearing Dennis speak at a fund raiser / concert in Austin in 2004 hosted by Willie Nelson. I wish everyone that bashes him would have the opportunity to listen to him talk for 10 or 15 minutes, not just the 1 minute video sound bites we often see.

Yes I supported Obama in 2008 and plan on doing the same in 2012, but the Democratic Party can have multiple leaders and Dennis is an excellent example.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 06:33 PM
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61. Wow! "NOT ALL WARS ARE JUST! SOME ARE JUST WAR! "
Kucinich's statement indicates that he agrees with Obama: that some, "not all," wars are just.

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 08:23 PM
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63. Keep telling it, Dennis!
You speak for me!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:08 PM
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64. Thanks for posting!
:kick:
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Holy Moly Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:46 PM
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65. Cept when the president does it, then it is not unjust
So not all wars are just.
Just some wars are just,
Like when piece loving Amerikaka does it.
Then, and only then, is war not unjust...
Cept, of course, for God's chosen people,
then war is likewise never unjust,
cause God is always on their side, too.
For though we may not always be right,
we are never wrong.
But everyone knows that..
At least everyone who's anyone knows that.
Cept mebbe for a few illegal native American indians
or a few vestigial native Palestinian Palestinians
or a few ungrateful native Iraqi Iraqis
or a few stubborn native AfPak warlords
sob

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 11:39 PM
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66. Thanks to all who replied and recommended :) n/t
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