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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:18 PM
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Did Copenhagen Change The US In A Way We Never Thought Of?
 
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So the chief US climate negotiator Todd Stern thought it would be a good idea to snub China in the world spotlight while in Copenhagen. What is this guy thinking????

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The 1st clip comes from here:

Even as the world powers try to hammer out a contract at the climate summit, the tempers in Copenhagen are running high. In a rather harsh use of language Chinese vice foreign minister has called US climate negotiator extremely irresponsible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hftD52vr3E


Has anyone seen the Chinese Vice Foreign Minister's harsh response reported on any US news channels?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:32 PM
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1. This is the point at which we all have to HOPE that the U.S. Powers That Be know what they
are doing on the global scene. If we're stuck in that "world's only superpower" mindset, I have a feeling we're screwn.

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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 02:45 PM
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2. I want a fallout shelter for Christmas.
rec.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 06:49 PM
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3. Our politicians
are mainly spoiled wealthy people who treat people like shit. They do it to "low class Americans" every day. Who is surprised by them thinking they can do it to anyone who doesn't flash their wealth and connections around? I voted Obama but he has proven his YALE law degree is his "in the club" trophy. We deserve whatever we get until we grow a backbone and take to the streets and kick the "money changers from the temple" (I am not religious). We need to demand our fair share of the wealth and let these elitists learn to survive the way we have to. Until then, we get what we deserve.CEO's "earning" over 400% of what the average (if he/she still has a job) worker earns. They consider an "average worker" earns about 50 thousand a year. Not where I live or any of the places I visit. 50 thousand a year is waaay above average earnings. Americans are being screwed daily... Take to the streets and take our country back from these elitist "let them eat cake" special interests. We are now a third world country with a huge arsenal (the biggest) yet we can't get a job or get health care. Take to the streets, lets take this country back! Most of us "low class" Americans, know how to treat people politely. Jerry Springer is a T.V. show. Army Privates earn $18,000.00 and most Americans are under or unemployed. We take jobs as minimum wage convenience/gas store cashiers( gas companies "earn" billions of $ in PROFITS) when we used to earn a living wage and still have kids in college. Fuck this.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 07:19 PM
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4. Support Fair Trade. Not the Free trade crap NAFTA sells.
Write to your Congress and Senate.

We all need to correspond, much much more.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:55 AM
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7. You mean HARVARD law degree.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:40 PM
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9. Yes
it was Harvard. I realized that later...Ivy League too. Thanks
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audas Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-13-09 09:01 PM
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5. This has been my premise for some time -
However it is vastly different.

There is no doubt that China is diversifying its reserves into commodities - however this does NOTHING to rectify the
fact that they still rely on exports for income primarily from the US.

The stimulus package will only go so far, there must be a return to consumption for continued prosperity. That consumption
was entirely driven by debt - this debt has reached ceiling levels globally - that is what the crisis really is - debt saturation.

Deleveraging is going to happen globally and I fear that China is going to experience its first depression as a capitalist system.

The US is going to depreciate their dollar off a cliff - no reason not too - stops people consuming mindless Chinese stuff, increases
self reliance and domestic production, pays off the debt, destroys China.

The only thing which can stop this will be the OPEC nations moving to a non-us oil bourse - the US will ensure is long term survival - I think
you can all be assured of that - this will come from an attack on Iran as a straight forward simple warning to all nations considering such a move -
especially VEnezeula.

Cheers.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 01:55 AM
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6. If you see how the Chinese took camer to dominate business in a number of countries
you will understand why the U.S. really began to go downhill and stagnate after Nixon opened up trade with China.

The story of the Chinese in Indonesia is quite interesting.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:28 AM
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8. Maybe we should just do like the Brits....
...and tax Goldman-Sachs, et. al.. Make them pay for it.

- It's their doing.


K&R

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