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Sun Dec-20-09 01:20 PM
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DC Cop pulls gun on snowball fight |
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Sun Dec-20-09 01:39 PM
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Sun Dec-20-09 01:54 PM
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What gives with the cops in this country?
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:27 PM
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6. They hate us for our freedoms. |
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Or something like that.
You know if they applied their motto "To protect and to serve" to the people, they might have more respect on the streets.
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Sun Dec-20-09 06:35 PM
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18. They have been watching to much 24 |
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And they all identify with Jack Bower. Thee is a terrorist behind every Bush.
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:45 PM
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22. They are control freaks who always respond with violence knowing you can't. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:46 PM
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23. Drawing a gun is totally irresponsible. If someone throws rocks at you and U pull a gun U go to jail |
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:49 PM
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24. Imagine if there had been no cameras.They would handcuff society for their own protection |
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Mon Dec-21-09 06:43 AM
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to a snowball fight.Wow.You said just what I was thinking.Damn good thing there were people with cameras there or this may have gotten way out of hand.Way past time to start de-funding some over-bloated police budgets.
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:00 PM
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3. Stupid, fascist oinker |
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Seig Heil, officer. Bad cop, no donut.
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:25 PM
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Why are people still standing around? And actually throwing snowballs at him? Get the FUCK OUT OF THERE!
Or.. call the cops? :eyes:
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:46 PM
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7. Incase the video doesn't explain. |
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This was an internet flash mob organized thing. Twitter based, I think? Plan was to show up at that intersection at a specified time and have a snowball fight.
Hundreds of people showed up. They 'mostly' threw from corner to corner when cars were stopped by traffic lights. But, get that many people together and a few just won't have any sense. They started hitting cars in motion. Tempers flared, as drivers got out to express their feelings.
First cop who showed up on scene was in an unmarked car, and it and he apparently got bombarded. As is typical when enough humans get together to form a mod, the collective is far stupider than the few individuals who are recognizing a growing problem. THings were well out of hand when marked police cars showed up and shut the whole scene down.
Moral of the story? If you want to organize something like this, set it in a nice park area. Plenty of those in DC.
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:05 PM
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9. Didn't a very wise man once say... |
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"Never throw shit at an armed person?"
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Mon Dec-21-09 06:06 AM
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26. MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE MET IN THE PARK |
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:01 PM
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8. When the revolution comes: don't bring snowballs to a gunfight. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:06 PM
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10. Good thing I wasn't young participant in that snowball "fight." |
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I can have a short fuse.
I'm sure I would have nailed that cop with a hard snowball and than would have ran like hell!
I was in a lot of snowball "fight" when I was in high school. They were fun!
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:53 PM
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13. Apparently Det Baylor does too. |
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He needs to re-learn what constitutes a threat and what doesn't.
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:44 PM
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11. I live in D.C. and apparently there was a major *FRIENDLY* snowball fight... |
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Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 03:45 PM by Liberal_Stalwart71
The cop didn't realize that it was a friendly fight and pulled his gun. Others called the cops because he was in plain clothes. When the other D.C. cops arrived, they broke up the crowd. People were just having a good time. To be fair, that neighborhood used to be crime-ridden but has gentrified and turned around in the last few years. So whenever something goes down, cops automatically assume something nefarious. FASCISTS!!!!!
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:49 PM
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12. people become cops for a reason... |
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im sure some police come to their line of work with good intentions of helping ppl and upholding the law etc... but i'll bet many become cops because its an overt macho power tripping position. who knows what this hummer guy's issues are - but it does seem way over the top to have dealt with that situation with a gun and an attitude.
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Sun Dec-20-09 03:58 PM
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You shouldn't throw snow balls at cars and never at people who carry guns even if they haven't repeatedly told you to stop. The a-hole in the black ski mask was a primary incendiary in this confrontation (the one who kept shouting "pig"). He should have been body slammed, cuffed, drug threw the snow and tossed into a squad car. I have no love for the cops, but I really hate stupid little shit hole provocateurs like that turd. It's a wonder nobody got tazered or shot. Idiots!
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Sun Dec-20-09 04:06 PM
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16. Notice he dragged off the guy chanting "You don't bring guns to a snowball fight!" |
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Instead of the guy yelling "Fuck you pig!"
Wonder why?
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:28 PM
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20. LOL! Couldn't disagree more. The cop is trained and screened and |
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a professional able to put emotions in check, evaluate a situation and determine when lethal force is necessary. Cops are trained that they must only pull out a weapon when they intend to discharge it into a suspect. Not doing so can mean their own death.
Not only that, the cop confronted a crowd before he assessed the situation. He is required by common sense and professional obligation to observe and then act, not the other way around. Plus, since he didn't have a partner he risked provoking the situation by acting alone and engaging a large crowd with gun in hand.
The parents of the child yelling at the cop obviously did a poor job teaching restraint, or perhaps the kid is just stupid, or perhaps he is just being a kid. That is no excuse for unnecessary force and abusing the kid over a snowball fight no matter what he was yelling. Not all free speech has been delegated to a free speech zone in an abandoned warehouse district, although we will soon be at that stage. It is unlikely that the kid would have the financial resources to achieve justice in any event.
Justice or not, if the cop injured the kid over name calling, and if it were caught on video, the cop could have his career ruined.
As it is, it is likely that the cop will undergo some sort of internal (and most likely meaningless) disciplinary process for wielding his weapon that way and the results may or may not be made public.
Absolutely nothing here warrants a taser or body slam or baton to the head or any other violence.
I'm sure the pilgrim kids threw snowballs at the horse and buggy's on the way to church, risking a horse to bolt and causing horse and buggy traffic mayhem. And the strict church reverend would demand they be placed in the stocks.
I doubt we are a better nation for it.
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Mon Dec-21-09 06:11 AM
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27. It appears to me that the Cop lost his temper |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 06:12 AM by USAcitizen
Cops are trained not to lose their temper. This one must have failed that training. He could have dispersed the crowd in a more civil manner.
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Mon Dec-21-09 12:55 PM
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29. I couldn't agree more |
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with these sentiments. The cop had obviously lost it, he shouldn't have, but he did, and he had upholstered his gun. My point is how stupid it is to goad an armed man in his mental state, any armed man. I doubt if any of the "pig" and "don't bring a gun to a snowball fight" screamers and chanters have ever seen what bullets do to flesh up close and personal. They were damn lucky they didn't end up bringing snowballs to a gun fight.
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Mon Dec-21-09 01:27 PM
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30. "He should have been body slammed, cuffed, drug threw the snow..." |
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You're messed up in the head, man.
PB
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:41 PM
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31. If some over the edge, out of control cop |
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ever blows your ass away over nothing because you didn't know when to shut the fuck up, don't die thinking you weren't warned tough guy.
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Sun Dec-20-09 04:01 PM
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15. Meanwhile, in New York: |
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Sun Dec-20-09 07:41 PM
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19. QUestion: was that on streets? Or in a square? |
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Main difference could be whether or not they were interfering with traffic.
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:38 PM
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21. Hahaha - TImes Square! Snow saucers as shields! |
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Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 10:39 PM by scentopine
What a blast! I'm guessing a fun mix of tourists and New Yorkers. One side seemed greatly outnumbered.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:13 PM
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25. Harden packed Snow Missile=Assault |
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Don't assault a cop, don't have a gun pulled on you.
POLICE STATE ALERT!!!!!!!
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