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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:20 AM
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Dean accepts that bill will pass, warns of battles trying to regulate insurance. Rachel's show.
 
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Actually Dean is accepting that the bill will pass, discusses it with Rachel.

He is disappointed, but he sort of shrugged that if the right hates it so much there must be some good in it.

Dean does not express support for the bill...he is accepting grudgingly that it will pass. He says there is a battle coming down the road with the insurance companies.

Says some things perhaps can be modified at a later date, but wishes it did not have to happen.

Changed his mind about stopping the Senate bill for two reasons:

Tightened some cost controls, raised reimbursements for rural physicians.

Says the president and Congress have expanded the existing system, not reformed it.

Still pushing for public option. But now he says it is unlikely.

Thinks the way Ben Nelson cut the deal for Nebraska with the government paying Medicaid forever should be applied to other states.

Thinks we will be fighting insurance companies for regulation.

Only time will tell how many changes were made and how they really help.

Only time will tell how much more difference he could have made by speaking out if the WH had not sent out the big guns from the WH staff, the media, and the bloggers who get the access. The attempt to discredit him out loud on TV most likely kept him from saying things that needed to be said.

The anger was splitting the party over the giving in to insurance lobbyists, and it is his nature to not split the party further.

Probably more needs to be said. Who knows right now.







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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:27 AM
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1. That Dean, he's such a chess
player. ;)

Good night MF. :hi:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:18 AM
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2. thanks for recap MF
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:11 AM
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3. I trust Howard Dean and take him at his word. He's a straight shooter.
The insurance companies surely came out on top in this round. However, I believe this is a step in the right direction. The opposition is formidable and the fight MUST go on. I still believe in single payor and/or make these insurance companies non-profit. Healthcare shouldn't be treated as a commodity to be bought and sold in the public market.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:41 AM
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4. I like Dr. Dean... he is correct..but...
..this bill is worse than the Patriot Act.

Once you open the door to big insurance.. you will never be able to stand up to their money and power.

Yes. this lets a few crumbs fall off the table to the people, (a smoke screen), but it is going to ration health care and raise costs.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:59 AM
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5. I agree more with you right now.
It does worry me.
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alllyingwhores Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:18 PM
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6. That's great...let's just all HOPE that the bill will CHANGE in conference...yeah, it's all part...
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 12:19 PM by alllyingwhores
...of that AUDACITY OF AUDACIOUSNESS...oh, and THEY CAN ALL GO F__K THEMSELVES...while we keep on hoping.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:29 PM
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7. Nice post in defense of Dean from Robert Scheer
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