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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:46 PM
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Thom Hartmann asks anti-gay Robert Knight - What is the real goal of the hate the gays movement?
 
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:55 PM
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1. to divide people, and to hide one's own sexuality
in hopes if they lash out against it, they themselves may never be considered gay, even by themselves. It's not about hiding from us, as much as it is a defense mechanism for those who are seriously confused about their own sexuality. It's an extreme reaction that hurts them and others around them.

I find most of those who have the biggest hang up of others' sexuality are restling with it in themselves. It is sad...
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:26 PM
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2. K&R. Brilliant exposé via Q&A.
I appreciate the way Thom asks very necessary questions and lets us all listen to the answers together. It is really illuminating.

Why would the Hard Right prefer that their kids Not Know what types of sexual interaction are out there that they might be invited to explore, and how to do them safely?

Why would they prefer their children to be tabula rasa in an era of multimedia communications?

Why would they deny them knowing key words about the various practices, and be ready to decide what to do, fully informed? And how to have fun as safely as possible.

Why would you not want that for your child? To be aware and empowered to make their own choices, based on solid scholarship, empirical evidence, and spiritual/moral guidance their parents had chosen to instill in them?

Knowledge is power, they say.
Why would you not want to empower your children to play safely?

Kudos to Thom for asking the questions.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:37 PM
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4. amazingly well done, such a great video - put this on the home page DU!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:41 PM
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5. they don't believe in knowledge and they don't believe in choice
they believe in obedience and ignorance
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:04 PM
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6. I honestly think there is a very SAD hidden fact in...
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 04:05 PM by SkyDaddy7
our extremely religious driven culture...Our high teen suicide rate probably has a lot to do with children of religious families and maybe not so religious families who resort to killing themselves than coming out gay! Our culture is so cruel toward people that the Bible says are abominations and it makes me sick and very SAD! I wish people who do not agree with such Bronze Age thinking would stop calling themselves Christians...The so-called moderates! I do not think they realize that all they are doing is providing cover for this culture of hate!

Another thing most people never even think of is the children who are born inter-sexed (Born with both male & female reproductive organs)...And due to our culture of religious driven hate and misunderstandings many doctors convince the parents to have what they call corrective surgery. Many times the surgeries are wrong and actually damage the child to the point the surgery can't be reversed. Then this child is considered one sex when they are actually the other which dooms them to life where they will never be able to get married on top of the fact our culture already considers such people to be freaks...IT IS NOT FAIR!!!!!!!

I guess I too would be ignorant of such suffering if I had not had a childhood friend who went through this insanity only to kill herself when her family stopped talking to their "son" when he came out as their "daughter". Yes, they were fundies and they never wanted the secret to get out but it did and they chose to distance themselves from their own child rather than comfort their child and accept they made a huge mistake!


BTW- I saw the term you used "tabula rasa" and I was curious and looked it up...I guess the term was coined by John Locke? Very Interesting! Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for teaching me something new!

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 03:37 PM
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3. QUITE pleased to be the 5th rec on this - wow, THOM! Way to GO! such great rebuttals to that pig!
:kick:

:kick:

:kick:


More power to ya!
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:25 PM
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7. K&R
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raystorm7 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 04:28 PM
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8. What a hypocrite! Especially on the last half.
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feslen Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:50 PM
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9. re: I have to give a huge thumbs up to Thom Hartman
catching a hateful, fearful loser in his own lies. hah!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 05:55 PM
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10. That guy begged the question so much . . .
. . . that he should get a license from Mr. Peachum.
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suede1 Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:21 PM
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11. Thom Hartmann rocks!
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njjdem Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:46 PM
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13. hartman
is really good to listen to
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newmac Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 06:46 PM
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12. Take "scripture" and place in "trash can"
Its just the writings of 2500 year old religious nuts. Trash it
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:58 PM
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14. The real agenda is to have old people voting not for a great government for their
children and their children's children but for their own distaste at something that was taboo in their youth and that way vote Repuke. So that repukes would get into power. So that rich people would not have to pay taxes.
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