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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:39 AM
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Sell Pot In Liquor Stores
 
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December 28, 2009 KOMO 4 News

Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring the legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 percent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget. Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:43 AM
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1. there ya go.... do it
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:07 AM
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2. Look for howls of outrage from the liquor industry
unless they somehow manage to get special dispensations from the federal & state governments to profit from marijuana sales.

On a tangential rant: imagine for a moment that ethyl alcohol had somehow remained undiscovered until modern times, then imagine that some scientist had concocted it in a lab by accident. Then imagine how the FDA would react to a substance that is clearly a neurotoxin in high doses, a systemic poison in smaller doses over the longer term, with the ability to induce psychosis & dependency - plus has no medical value when compared to other analgesics & sedatives. Would ethanol get put on the list of Schedule I controlled substances, like marijuana - even though cannabis has been demonstrated to have medicinal value? Follow the money to find the answer.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:10 AM
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3. No don't do it!
Seriously. Pot is the one business that is not corporatized. I like it like that.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:02 AM
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6. Unfortunately if the government wants their cut they will have to restrict
home growing. And you know that the corporate types will be spending/lobbying all they can to make sure they don't have to compete with the average pot grower/user.

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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:40 PM
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10. Sure it's corporatized - by the prison system
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seattle_blue Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:30 AM
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4. No problem
It is a fact that the most negative consequences of marijuana come from its prohibition. LEGALIZE! THE TIME IS NOW!!!!!
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:36 AM
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5. If WA state allows liquor stores to sell cannabis
The plant matter will be by far the safest substance within the walls of that business.

I think the co-op model is most effective but I doubt anyone would complain too loudly if this passed....
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:07 AM
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7. There's concern about more impaired people being on the roads?
Somebody please point me to the statistics on how many people have died in marijuana-related car accidents.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 02:51 PM
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12. No one should drive after smoking too much....or drinking too much
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 03:02 PM by winyanstaz
but the truth is...if you smoke too much you usually don't want to go anywhere..you just want to go to sleep.
The major exception to that would be if you have run out of munchies at home :P
The biggest problem with people trying to drive after smoking pot..is they get paranoid and drive way too dang slow in an attempt to be careful.
If you get too scared while on a pot high...the adrenaline will kick in and you lose your high.
Same thing if you eat too many munchies with sugar...such as a candybar....you not only will lose the high but you will get fatter.
I would much rather be driving with someone on the road that is high..then someone that has had more than two drinks.
Sorry...I have no idea where to find any statistics on that if they even exist.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:26 PM
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14. They are full of it.
people do it everyday,I know people who have done it for years. I don't know why they keep on with this game when they know that teens and people of all ages can get it anytime they want it..
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gadjitfreek Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:21 AM
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8. I have never smoked is, nor done any other drugs...
...but the fact is, there are huge profits being made on alcohol, nicotine and caffeine. Right now we jail people for possession of marijuana. It's long past time for that to end. Criminalize the unauthorized selling of marijuana, just like you need a tax stamp for cigarettes. The arguments against decriminalization ring more hollow every single year. This is what happens when you try to legislate one group's perception of morality.

I like how th guy said "we're against taxes, but if it goes to help the community, then we're for it". What??? Most of the taxes you pay go to doing just that! What do they think the point of taxes is?????
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 12:13 PM
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9. So then...Why dont we just legalize Meth,heroin,cocaine and every other drug that
in now illegal.While we are at it why not just make it legal for pain killers..Can just see the specials now.."Buy two cases of Bud Light and get a 30 day supply of Oxycontin free"
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 03:06 PM
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13. other nations have legalized drugs without having a major problem
and no..we don't need to throw pain killers in there.
We can legalize drugs..get them off the streets and end the violence and dispense it where it can actually be controlled and people helped.
We will save a fortune on prosecution, prisons and help save families if we can get past the scare retoric and actually deal with things in a rational manner.
We have tried the war on drugs.
It didnt work..it has failed.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 01:48 PM
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11. It's better than money disappearing out the economy to dealers and so on...
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 02:03 PM by ProgressOnTheMove
One thing they need to get on top of is poppy production and finding legal uses for that too, which can in some cases be used in medication. Half of terrorism malarkey comes down to the black market of drugs and usage of heroine from poppies, but it can be used as harmless medication, than in the dangerous form and allowed to proliferate, then half our problems are solved. The simple reason some of these folks are so crazy are they are whacked out on the lethal variety of drug, heroine. I mean how rational is exploding your your underwear. Although marijuana itself is more harmless than booze, so why it hasn't been legal for years who knows. Buying drugs legal is the way to go to make them safer and defund the terrorism organizations, this is the easiest way to win the war on terror. More marijuana less heroine.
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Ysabela Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:14 PM
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15. I call bullshit on the "rising medical costs" argument. Alcohol destroys livers.
If the argument is that we should police every substance that is potentially unhealthy, then alcohol definitely tops marijuana as a more destructive substance.
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 08:56 PM
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16. Peanut butter jelly time......
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 12:12 PM
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17. decadent
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