Ron Paul "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers"

[Lars77]

Run time: 09:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSODUhnS5vM   Posted on YouTube: December 30, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: January 02, 2010 By DU Member: Lars77 Views on DU: 5599

 
Sorry if this has been posted already.

Ron Paul essentially says "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers".

[bfarq]

1. "Hotels protect themselves"? WTF???

Hasn't Rep. Paul every heard of the Police Department. Isn't he aware that is there is a crime committed at a hotel or anywhere else, people dial 911. That doesn't get them to Blackwater. That gets them to the GOVERNMENT. It works pretty well 99.9% of these time. That last 0.1% can be hard to cover and it includes things like police brutality and failure to keep bad guys from getting on the plane. We have to keep working to make the systems as effective as they can be, but if the standard is 100%, then no government or private business will ever achieve that standard.

[bfarq]

2. Murine Man: "IBM could solve this in a month" WTF??

Let me tell you about IBM. They got a $1.3Bn contract in Indiana 4 years ago to improve welfare reporting. This was one of those great Republican outsourcing plans where Gov. Daniels was going to prove just how much better private business could do than government because they have the advantage of the innovation that comes when there is a profit motive.

Four years later they hadn't delivered a damn thing that worked, so Daniels had to pull the plug because by that time the state was hemorrhaging red ink. And of course when he did that, he painted himself the hero being vigilant, paring out wasteful contracts.

http://chestertontribune.com/Indiana%20News/121592%20indiana_panel_approves_ending_we.htm

Murine man is a moron. I don't know why anybody would give him the time of day for anything.

[scentopine]

3. Same thing in Texas, on-going IBM outsourcing disaster

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140358/Texas_withdraws_voter_registration_systems_from_IBM_contract

It's actually worse than the story reports, but you can get the gist of it.

[YOY]

8. Several friends of mine (Feds...dif departments) and I were chatting.

Every one of us mentioned those 3 letters in our company. Every one of us call them the ultimate waste of money. The source of complaint is usually they manage our help desks and computer imaging services. They make money hand over fist doing it.

The federal govt. wastes so much paying IBM on things that we could do in house cheaper. Every time someone tells me that it's cheaper this way I ask for a comparative study. Nobody really ever did the time to do that study. Maybe IBM did...I dunno.

[dotymed]

21. No shit

these rethugs just want to enrich corporations at our expense, get kick-backs or "contributions" (call it what you want...bribery is correct). They are in the govt. but say that govt. can't work...look at blackwater/xe (whatever), we pay them and Halliburton waaay more than it costs our own troops to do the same work, and they fuck it up and rip us off at every opportunity. Re-instate the draft, have no loopholes for the rich and watch what happens to continuous wars. Americans will revolt, as they should. Mercenaries being paid more than our own Generals on the ground..come on. It is all a scheme to keep distributing the wealth upward. Trickle down??? lol..right And Ron Paul (I hate to admit it) is right. "They are only terrorists because we are occupiers." Wouldn't you be? "We" pay huge amounts to a billionaire CIA operative to start a merc company...fuck me, this is ridiculous. It would be different if President Obama were changing things...it ain't happening. We are a Fascist nation. I want out, but I can't afford to leave! Hell, I can't afford to stay either..

[scentopine]

23. Agree- its time to use the F word.

We are a fascist nation. Marketing types are feverishly working for a more politically correct term - neo-con, neo-lib, neo-dem, new democrat, centrist, moderate, etc.

Its all painting lipstick on the fascist pig.

[izquierdista]

4. Butt Stain?

I don't think I want to click if his drone is included.

[bfarq]

6. I'll save you the trouble

There are about 20 seconds when each of the guests is able to state a point coherently, followed by 5 minutes where they are all yelling continuously so nothing can be heard or understood. Just another day at the office for the MSM.

I guess they have an audience that enjoys that the "smack down" atmosphere more than they actually care about a real discussion of the issues.

[Scruffy1]

33. Now you know why i don't have television

Only shallowness is possible in a sound bite media. We spend way too much time worrying about talking heads. Turn it off, get a nice book and read.

[Plucketeer]

5. I do agree that alot of what's perpetrated against us is because we're where we shouldn't be!

But Ben the dolt Stein - he's just a malingering throwback to the regime that got us forehead deep into this mess. Heh - like asking a shark how best to avoid it's attack!

[Suji to Seoul]

9. I guess Benny-boy is trying to pilot a new game show: "Bet Ben Stein's Chutzpah!"

If you win you get to pimp slap him for cheerleading the Troglodyte's wars for eight years.

[AlbertCat]

13. But Ben the dolt Stein

Really! What an irrelevant has been! Why are these people even asked what time it is, much less get on the boob tube for commentary. This is all the show could get? Lame.

[Enthusiast]

7. I agree with Ron Paul,

at least partially. Why shouldn't a populace feel animosity toward us if we occupy THEIR country? Imagine how we would feel if a country invaded us because a relatively few of our citizens carried off a terrorist attack.

We should actually be surprised if they were not angered enough to attack us.

[YOY]

10. It's one of the things he is actually right on.

But if he keeps talking you most assuredly will hear one of the things he is batshit about.

[Enthusiast]

11. Oh yeah, he's batshit alright.

I've heard him enough to know he is batshit. I'm just surprised he is right about anything.

[liberation]

15. The few things he is right about... he is usually correct for the wrong reasons,

in other words, he is right about stuff... in the same manner a stopped watch is correct about the time twice a day.

[AllyCat]

12. One of the few issues on which I agree with Mr. Paul

[Joe the Liberal]

14. I'd have to agree with Ron Paul here.....

nothing is going to be accomplished by occupying those countries, the change needs to be made here, not there.

Ben Stein is a moron here...as usual.

[pjt7]

16. Ben Stein needs to be banned

from all major networks.

[icee]

17. I absolutely agree with Ron Paul here. As modern Rome, having

met its Parthia (Iraq), we are mindlessly defeating others on our way to extinction.

[SergeStorms]

18. Why does ANYONE listen to what Ben Stein says?

This guy thinks "intelligent design" should be taught in schools, for cryin' out loud! :wtf:

Every time an argument isn't going his way he immediately starts throwing around his patented "everyone is an Anti-Semite" rant. They guy is a complete nutcase, and if it wasn't for a bit part in "Ferris Beuhler's Day Off" no one would know - or care - who Ben Stein is. Economist? (only in the loosest from of the word) Speech writer for Nixon? (my god, NIXON)? Those two "qualifications" should make him an authority on terrorism? :banghead:

Ron Paul at least makes SOME sense, but Ben Stein has absolutely NO credibility whatsoever.

[rfranklin]

28. He is a celebrity clown...mostly famous for being recognizable...

He is there to do exactly what you saw--stir the pot and make it seem exciting because people are yelling. Now that's great TV!

[WileEcoyote]

34. Thought he was funny as hell in

"The Mask" with Jim Carrey.

The reason I can't take Ben Stein seriously all.

[makemyday]

19. What would you do if someone invaded and were occupying your country?

It's likely you would practice the basic mission of the military:"Kill the enemy, or destroy his will to fight."
By invading sovereign countries (Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen?,?) and occupying them (Iraq, Afghanistan, ?) we've locked in hatred from the citizens of these countries for at least a generation.

Got to agree with Ron Paul here, "They're Terrorists Because We're Occupiers."

[avaistheone1]

20. I don't normally agree with Ron Paul on issues, but on this one he is correct.

I also liked what Shiela Jackson Lee had to say in this clip.

[winyanstaz]

22. Peace would break out all over if we stopped invading other countries....

But the war mongers wont let that happen...they make too much money off of blowing people up.

[PDJane]

24. They're terrorists because the US is an empire,

with the usual sattelites, including my country.

The Third Reich didn't lose the war, it just changed venues. (That's from a guy named Ruppert, and he's right.)

[Lars77]

27. And mine..

The defence of the empire starts in the north of Norway where we have air bases ready to intercept Russian aircraft coming around the north cape. Almost every day we are up intercepting Russian aircraft who are out in the north sea probing our air defences measuring our response while they are turning southwest towards the UK. This stopped after the cold war was over but started again a few years ago. Usually the pilots are close enough to exchange hand signals.

The entire northern fleet including their ballistic missile subs are also just a few hours drive from our border.

[Ian David]

25. Every once in a while, even Ron Paul gets something right.

But it's not hard to be less wrong than Ben Stein.

[sulphurdunn]

26. Who works for whom here?

If bin Laden wishes to profit by bogging the U.S. down in foreign wars and bankrupting it, shouldn't he work for Goldman Sacs? Ooops! Was that anti-Semitic? Only if opposing American occupation of Middle Eastern countries is anti-Semitic. This accusing anyone who disagrees with your position on foreign policy of being anti-Semitic has become laughably irrational. The tactic is backfiring, and Ben Stein sounds like a fool.

[Douglas Carpenter]

29. when Ron Paul is wrong - which is most of the time - he is VERY wrong - when Ron Paul is right -

which is seldom and usually related to issues of empire - he is VERY right!

[msatty99]

30. Ron Paul states what seems like 'the obvious' to me...

Whether you agree or disagree with characterizing the West as "occupiers", What he means is that we are PERCEIVED by the terrorists
as occupiers. It is the most basic kind of intelligence to try to understand what your enemy thinks and perceives. Even if you
think or believe they are dead wrong.

The next step is to see whether what they are thinking is rational and you can only do that by looking at what they are basing
or supporting their thought with.

Ben Stein's nasty comment that to utter such words is "anti-semitic" only serves to de-rail any thoughtful discussion it seems
to me. But then again...its just TEEVEE.... whoever blows the loudest and with the most sparkly lights seems to 'win'. (But win
what?).

[davidwparker]

31. Isn't that the truth. Get out. It's as simple as that.

[pjt7]

32. Ron Paul's & his followers need to

work with peace D's & stop the endless war/business

[earcandle]

35. Why is a guy who just made an anti-evolution movie (Ben Stein) someone who we should be listening to

Why does this guy get any airtime at all?

[earcandle]

36. Larry King, you are funny!

[DutchLiberal]

37. Disagree with him on all points; but in this case, he's right,.

And most (American) politicians don't have the balls to say it.