CNN Names Congresswoman Michele Bachmann

[democracy1st]

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January 01, 2010 CNN

[abq e streeter]

1. Typical "fair and balanced"/false equivalency MSM horseshit

wonderful; they put Alan Grayson as a bigger wingnut than Sarah Palin and Ed Schultz is a "Limbaugh of the left" (I must have missed the lies, hate and blatant racism; the making fun of sufferers of parkinson's etc from Ed)....So big deal that they noticed that Bachmann et al are psycho; must have taken some deep investigative reporting to figure that out. Obviously to the corporate "news" network, anyone taking a stand either side of the safe bland corporate-friendly " middle" is a wingnut. Fuck them...BTW, About 6 years ago , I had an enlightening conversation with a fellow alumni at my high school reunion. He had recently left his long-time position as a newswriter at CNN. He is actually a pretty middle of the road kind of guy, but admitted that all copy that was to go out over the air was checked first by supervisors specifically to make sure a pro-corporate angle was expressed. No big surprise, but confirmation from an insider...

Please to do not take this a a criticism of the OP for posting this; it is not at all... just pointing out that while it's nice , I suppose, to see that they noticed that Bachmann is batshit crazy, to me the bigger and more disturbing aspect of this is that same old false-equivalence crap...if we criticize right wing lunatics, we have to pretend ( or worse, actually believe) progressives are just the same from the other side...

[Divine Discontent]

4. and as you noticed I'm sure - Palin's & BatshitcrazyBachman's were printed on the screen, nothing

with them on video talking...

[abq e streeter]

6. actually, being kind of out of it today ( days and days of insomnia) I hadn't noticed that

but certainly is telling , isn't it? Thanks for pointing that out.

[Divine Discontent]

14. your welcome, friend. and much comfortable sleep to you tonight, count sheep

do it! lol

[ooglymoogly]

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[TheEuclideanOne]

38. Yes, Melatonin is great

Whenever I have trouble sleeping, it helps alot. You actually wake up the next day feeling rested.

[ooglymoogly]

40. Yes, ebay is the cheapest source nt

[abq e streeter]

45. Thanks to you and the others that have mentioned this

I'm seeing the sleep specialist I go to on Friday, and mainly to see about a change in medication besides checking to see that the CPAP machine for my apnea is working. Of course I haven't been using it lately since there's no point to breathing through it if you're not sleeping anyway. Thanks again, oogly , and the others.

[sulphurdunn]

8. Like Rep. Grayson,

isn't Rep. Bachmann also a "sitting lawmaker".

[abq e streeter]

13. I was under the impression she's a rolling around on the floor, drooling uncontrollably

lawmaker, but yeah...( don't know whether to:rofl: ,:cry: , or:puke: )

[northzax]

43. Bachmann and Palin don't say things on camera

they write them on FB, or say them on the radio, where only their people can hear them. it's actually pretty brilliant (I know, I know) if there is video of you saying something stupid, you go down (right, Senator Allen?) but if it's just radio, or print, you can get away with an awful lot of stuff.

[Maccagirl]

18. +100

n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

26. false equivalency

Hit the nail right on the head.

[SOS]

41. Language control and manipulation at work

A wingnut is a right-winger.
Period.
The term has caught on to the point that the corporate machine must redefine the term.
Did you notice their definition at the beginning? : "Extremists from both sides".
This is how a Goebbels-worthy propaganda machine operates.

Betcha that definition came right out of a Frank Luntz press release.

[abq e streeter]

44. Yep, that's why I 've been saying that in many ways, the "moderate" MSM

is more dangerous than Fox etc. At least most people with a functioning brain understand that Fox is just a propaganda outlet, but many (if not maybe most) of the same people HAVEN'T figured out that CNN, ABC etc, are too, in a more subtle( to them anyway) way, and will believe bullshit like this that they hear even as they understand that Beckkk, Limpballs etc are not trustworthy sources.

[Divine Discontent]

2. they gotta put Ed in there because he screams & sounds a bit like Rush, however, unlike Rush

he is right because profits are what the "HEALTH INSURANCE" companies are all about - they don't want people to use their paid benefit to get better when you're struck with a hugely expensive illness (talking about the 50,000+ things basically), they want you to just die so they get more profits in their dividends and their stock prices go up for all the shares they own.

He's right, and anyone not wanting to realize that is licking ice cream cone & picking daisies.

[bleever]

3. Feh. Ed Schultz, Alan Grayson? This "both sides do it" stuff dumbs down

the whole conversation. Schultz and Grayson are passionate, and their rhetoric gets pretty hot, but they aren't liars or delusional, like Palin, Beck, and Bachmann.

[Ed76638]

15. Yeah, this shit is fucking retarded.

You're only a wingnut if you complain about the outright bullshit thats around you. The people who say nothing and go along with it until the shit hits the fan, THATS YOUR MAINSTREAM FOLKS!!!!

[AzNick]

23. Big Eddie will actually enjoy the publicity

I will listen to him on Monday just to hear him laugh at it and say thank you for the publicity.

[bleever]

25. I think you're right.

It's almost a softball pitch, if he wants to get into how the milquetoast media tries to position itself in the middle of what it sees as equal extremes, when anyone can see that the "extremes" of each party aren't really equivalent to anybody except those who are blindly seeking some safe middle ground.

[donheld]

24. I'm very proud of both Ed Shultz and Alan Grayson

IMHO they're far from nuts.

[davidpdx]

28. And more precisely because they are both passionate about

passing healthcare. I agree with you, they are the least looney of the bunch.

[jerryster]

34. One question about something the guy said....

Grayson asked for someone to be put in prison for 5 years? Anyone have ANY idea what the hell he was talking about?

[pretzel4gore]

5. luckee critter

'no one ever ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the people' as Che Guevera, the saintly Che, once said...(i think it was he said that)

[verges]

9. I thought it was H L Mencken. nt

[tclambert]

10. H. L. Mencken

Often attributed to Mencken as "No one ever ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." Some erroneously attribute it to P. T. Barnum.

What Mencken actually wrote were two quotes that seem to have been hybridized into the above saying. 1) "No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." And 2) "No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby."

Quotes from: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/H._L._Mencken

[Quasimodem]

11. My favorite Mencken quote of recent years has been:

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

[abq e streeter]

12. I guess this is sort of a sub thread..sorry bout that ,but this Mencken quote sums up the Bush years

As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

[kag]

20. Where were YOU from 2000-2008?

The downright moron has come and gone.

[abq e streeter]

21. Huh? if you'll notice, that's exactly what I was referring to...

where was I ? Trying to survive the nightmare that was the Bush presidency. Exactly what are you asking or implying?

[DWilliamsamh]

16. Che was saintly? Really? I was under the impression he was a killer....

A revolutionary. A man who wanted more power for his people to be sure, but killing was his method. I don't think that qualifies him for sainthood. But maybe that's just me.

[pretzel4gore]

22. he was fighting the rightwing

of course the saintly Che stuff is provocative, esp. to reactionarkies, who hate Che, and JFK, and Lincoln, King and too many others. Your take on the issue is frightening. Che was ours, and i'm proud to evoke his memory. The pigmedia assumes our side is vicious, when history shows it is the right, always, which kills the defenseless. Take the French Revolution 1796, and the Paris Commune 1871. both events are typified by pigmedia as the mob run amok, I've seen references to the 'Great Terror' of the Revolution, and was surprised to learn only 2500 people died in the 'Terror'...hardly alot. The Paris Commune is much worse, from a lefty POV - the Communards killed 250 people in 2 months the Commune lasted. When the reactionaries- whom the communards allowed to regroup outside the city, retook the city of Paris, they murdered an estimated 40 thousand working people. they even executed worker class schoolkids by firing squad. So awful was the truth that France today is still instinctively leftist. the French learned through suffering that the rightwing is full of crap. Btw, the American Revolution inspired the French one- just like the Paris Commune was used by the Soviet Bolsheviks to avoid the mistake of giving the rightwing any time or so on, to regroup. But no one pays attention to this. Che was bad cuz he killed? End of debate? I disagree

[DWilliamsamh]

27. Facts are frighening to you?

I am not saying the man wasn't heroic in his fight, or in his cause. He was. But his method was killing. It isn't a debate. I aknowledge more than one set of facts about Che. Acknowledging the truth doesn't in any way lessen his place in history or the struggle of the common man to wield power over his own life. It really is too bad you aren't comfortable with that. My only point was that he was no saint, nor was he saintly. Sorry that frightens you.

[PurpleChez]

39. ...it sounded sarcastic to me....

[DWilliamsamh]

46. Sorry...didn't mean it as sarcasm..... Meant he wasn't a saint...which is what I said. (n/t)

[Guilded Lilly]

7. Used to be about hard news didn't it? (n/t)

[Grassy Knoll]

17. How about everybody @ fux noise that make people vomit....

[Piewhacket]

19. This is crap. Everybody knows Bachman, Beck, and Limpdick top the "whacked-out on drugs" list.

Now we can add these two "special commen-taters" from Fux-news
to the "I'm just a butt-stupid Murdoch thrall" list.

Congrats, thralls. I can only try not to imagine what you must
have to do to keep those (shudder) jobs.

[davidpdx]

29. The two big stories in there

Poor Sarah is rated so low. Is she losing her wingy appeal??

Where's Rush?? Is he getting out winged?

[onehandle]

30. Hey, CNN. One side is lying. The other side is passionate. Loudness is not a crime.

Great journamalism there.

[mstinamotorcity]

31. I don't consider

those fools wingnuts. Its the people give that credibility to what they say that are the demented ones they are the wingnuts.When you are talking about Bachmann,Palin,and Beck.Grayson and Shultz were basically coming from passion and frustration at these same afore mentioned wingnuts.What gets me is how they tried to symbolize them together.People who have not kept up with recent events regarding health care or any other political debate are the ones they are counting on to believe this garbage.And i am still wondering how is that news.Its not informative,it has no value,it simply seemed like a time filler.The things we heard,read,and saw in this clip we have known for months.Was this guy selling a book.Good luck at old news!!!!!:boring: :boring: :boring:

[Riley18]

33. For a split second I thought CNN was going to tell the truth. Putting Grayson

and Ed in the same category as Palin, Bachmann, and Beck is just the typical bullshit. When Ed and Grayson speak it is for the people, and when those wingnuts scream hateful, vindictive crap it is purely for their own gain.

[ooglymoogly]

35. Corporate media is starting early on Allan Grayson.

They need to destroy him before he becomes a real threat to them. The real wing nut here is an all to obvious attempt to destroy smart progressives like Grayson, equating them with lunatic crazies, like Backman and Beck, whom they can sacrifice and throw under the bus. Notice Beck was shown in a moderate sounding clip (with all the other not so subtle deceit noted in other posts) and Rush did not even come into the top 5. This is nothing more than classic crock propaganda equating common sense with idiocy and calling it all crazy to create chaos in the gullible mind; Thereby distancing there own crazy from it.

Corporate media has been singed by the criticism of their embrace of the right wing lunatic fringe many of whom are either their bosses or in their employ and the fear the public is on to them (thanx to the internet); So they have struck the classic propaganda ploy of muddying the waters, equating all those they fear with what every one with the least common sense knows to be crazy; Which is becoming abundantly clear is themselves. Their aim is to co-opt the common sense message of the progressives and confuse the, all to abundant, gullible mind. Hey it has worked on Kucinich and Dean and anyone else that had any real common sense, decency and honesty they feared just might break through their formidable defenses.

The internet, progressively, makes this a whole new ballgame and corpmedia should be scared.

[tsstranger]

36. Palin/Bachmann 2012?????

At a Freeper/Tea Bagger rally recently, one of the signs being carried around was a "Palin/Bachmann 2012" sign.

I had to LMMFAO at that one. Granted, that ticket would have the far right, fringe wackos going crazy but it would drive off the moderates and Independents.

The GOP is moving further to the right every day, which will insure that they are a fringe minority party for the coming years.

[jmowreader]

37. That might actually be an interesting ticket...

for people whose "vacation reading" includes the DSM-IV. And it would prove, once and for all, how big the Republican base is because no one else is stupid enough to vote for it.

[ooglymoogly]

42. This clip should be used as a teaching tool, a perfect example;

Propaganda 101; Obscuring reality; How to Deceive and confuse the gullible by representing the dichotomies of truth and fiction as sames.