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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 07:23 AM
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God's Plan???
 
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:30 AM
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1. You might like this- "Dear God" by XTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk41Gbjljfo

The lyric is included as subtitles, conveniently... enjoy!
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:55 AM
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4. Thanks..
I checked out the video and, ironically, even though my wife and I are theists there are many comments in that video we've also made and probably will continue to make.

One of the biggest tests to our belief structure came during the prior bush years. All those alleged xtians running around misquoting the bible for their own agendas almost brought us to the edge.

however...

There is ONE axiom we use and only one when it comes to human behavior vs. God belief - we don't make conclusions about God in light of any human behavior or events that occur. My own were formulated, at least in the beginning of my walk, with the ontological and philosophical arguments supporting God belief. First Cause, Unmoved Mover (Aquinas) were merely a few that enabled me to come to a conclusion.

If I were to base my beliefs on the aholes I see around me I would be a total atheist by now..
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:53 AM
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10. Hey, Welcome to DU!!
I assume you are fairly new to DU...If not, then I guess just a plain "hello" will do. I know some people have been here for years but hardly ever post.

Anyway, I am one of those godless heathens! LOL! I just wanted to tell you how nice it is to me to read your comment about how you approach belief in a god. I wish more "believers" took the same approach as you do. And to say there is nothing wrong with letting go of all belief in the supernatural! Come on over to the dark side! LOL!

See ya around!
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 01:09 PM
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12. The Dark Side?
I'm not really new over here - just didn't post in the past due to time constraints.
And some of my best friends (the few that I have) are heathens so welcome to the club!
Lastly - why would you invite me into some place where I'm already a proud resident? (the dark side). At least that's what the church people think about my wife and me.

And know something? I wouldn't have it any other way!

Thanks for the reception..
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 02:47 PM
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13. Hey you and your wife look like a great couple to me.
She does not say to much but it is clear she loves you....and believe me that IS gods plan.
But you do remind me of George Carlin...I am sure he had some influence in your life....he sure did mine.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 01:08 PM
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18. Thanks
Actually, I'm more sure of her love than I am about God's plan(s). LOL
She's very camera shy - I keep trying to get her to open up more. One time, off camera, she did an INCREDIBLE impersonation of that nut job Orly Taitz - the one who keeps harping about Obama's birth certificate. She floored me with her depiction and I've been begging her to go on camera and do it in a skit where she would be interviewed by Gov. Arnold (me). I think it would be a riot but she's still resisting it, for now.

And you're the 2nd person who told me about the Carlin thing - I'm humbled by it because he was absolutely fantastic. That skit he did about the earth being able to regurgitate out plastic while destroying us is a classic.

thanks,
r.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 05:15 PM
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19. But that may be why you work so well together.
But I understand the camera shy thing...I would have a hard time doing it too.
But Carlin did a lot of things that are memorable.
the one I most remember is the one comparing football and baseball....probably not many noticed it but it was an introspective look at us as a people.
But that is what I loved abut him...he was a serious funny man.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 05:55 AM
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20. I forgot about that one..
You're right, in fact the football/baseball comparison might be the best one ever! His facial expressions while saying the various terms for each game were hysterical.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:23 AM
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21. His facial expressions say a lot
One that I remember that cracked me up was while he was doing his monologue he said out of the blue..."Why is there no blue food?"
And he went back to the monologue.
I don't know why that struck me so funny but it did...it was like we were suddenly seeing a thought coming into his mind and it just came out.
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Technodaoist Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:12 AM
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5. That song...

...is in my "To be played at my funeral" folder.

To be fair though, so is "Freebird".
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-13-10 07:45 AM
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22. LOL about "Freebird"!
"ah'm as free as a bird dog... as a bird dog on a chaaaa-iiiinn"

:rofl:
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Stapz Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:39 AM
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2. ...Carlin is that you?!

reincarnation FTW
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 08:47 AM
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3. Carlin? Moi?
I'm not worthy..I'm not worthy..
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:50 AM
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7. +1
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:30 AM
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6. I've also had it "God' Plan!"
I hate it when people say that -- they just say it to justify what they want to do anyhow, ie, manifest destiny means I take your stuff.
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 09:56 AM
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8. You got that right!
Re: Manifest Destiny - I actually read an essay written by an xtian in which he totally supported this view and said something akin to "God allowed the whites to subjegate Native Americans" because it was better for all people concerned. I was astounded and replied that his view is no different than the Nazis' rational/philosophical arguments for exterminating Jews, Gypsies, Gays, and other people.

Naturally I was banned from his blog...
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 10:09 AM
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9. You two are so cute!
The dems should take note and start using the term "God's Plan", because when you get right down to it, it all is - even the shitty stuff.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 12:16 PM
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11. Mocking God's plans!!!
Oh MY GOD!!!! :rofl: Yeah, like my aunt being certain that my writing and calling her is a nicety dictated by God. I don't argue with her. If it gives her comfort - however false - so be it. At least she isn't trying to convert me.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:28 PM
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14. God's plan... that's pretty much the excuse suicide bombers use to
Edited on Mon Jan-11-10 03:29 PM by SemperEadem
justify killing innocent people...

or what the Catholic church's Inquisition used to torture and kill people who didn't tow the church's line.


Even though God clearly stated "Love one another" and "Do unto others..." that shit is meaningless when one is caught up in their own hubris and uber-arching pride.
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Unca Jim Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-11-10 03:58 PM
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15. The phrase "God's Plan"
Is as ridiculous as "God's left sock".

Total anthropomorphous BS.

It does make a great curse though! "God's Plan my finger hurts!"
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 08:41 AM
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16. You guys remind me of my husband and I
Love your message. It's right on target. :D
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Raoul Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-12-10 12:58 PM
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17. ????????
Obviously then your husband is totally insane (like me) right? LOL..

Seriously - thanks and stay tuned. Target practice will continue soon..
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