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Tue Mar-02-10 10:51 AM
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Coffee Party Movement - Atlanta |
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great video explaining the ideals of the coffee party
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:15 AM
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But all the grass movements cannot overcome the coming tsunami of corporate funding of elections.
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:59 AM
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2. I am skeptical as well but |
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how is this Democratic Party working out for us?
We certainly do not have representative government as witnessed by the HCR process. Something "radical" needs to be done. I'm thinking third party. The Tea Party was just a front for the GOP and insurance industry, the same brown shirts that disrupted the vote count after the 2000 election. Someone needs to do SOMETHING. I'm happy to see someone making an effort.
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:15 PM
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3. Should we just sit down and give up. Agree that the country is Center |
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right and hand everything over to the GOP???
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:51 PM
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6. There is no center right. |
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 01:10 PM by ooglymoogly
There is truth and there are lies and obfuscation. There is policy based on truth and there is policy based on lies. There is no true middle ground between the two. Truthyness does not a middle make. There is however some policy based on humanity and a great deal of policy based on greed; If there is an illusion of a middle, it is there.
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:41 PM
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11. Campaign finance reform isn't a left/right issue... |
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Let's be careful how we characterize the fight to keep corporate financing out of elections. Most "real" conservatives hate that idea as much as liberals. I'm amazed by how universal the hatred for corporate campaign financing and lobbying is, showing support from all parts of the political spectrum.
Played right, this is a perfect wedge issue and fracture point between the GOP and its base.
Played wrong, where our rhetoric encourages conservatives to line up behind corporate campaign financing simply because it distinguishes them from liberals/progressives, would be a hall of a wasted opportunity.
Let's use the issue of corporate campaign financing to drive a wedge between the GOP and most of its base, as well as a means of forcing Blue Dog Democrats to show their hand.
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Tue Mar-02-10 06:12 PM
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12. You shaped the issue very well... |
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However, it will be extremely hard sell! I honestly think they are not so much against corporate funding in campains as they are Unions having the same right.
You agree?
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:18 PM
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If American citizens aren't going to just roll over and take it, then they're going to have to start organizing. To me, that's the thing to remember about some of these new networked organizations forming out there. Once established, many of these networks won't be going away. They'll hopefully grow and change and will be useful in dealing with changing political conditions.
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:25 PM
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I am a liberal lost in this 'party' system. I don't have a party per se, I am only an individual that leans left. I don't like the infighting of the Dems and I will not stand with the racist "you're on your own" & "party of NO" republicans. Maybe I can find a home with this sector of America ????
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:02 PM
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just know that there is a broad spectrum of opinion even under this tent...
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:54 PM
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7. There's no point to this |
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No amount of grassroots anything is going to displace the ocean of corporate money that is about to flow into Washington. Liberals will be the first people out the door and the teabaggers (who will think they're winning for about a month) won't be far behind. They were never really anything but a sort of blind 5th column for the Republican party anyway, but their voice will no longer be necessary soon, either.
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:44 PM
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The Coffee Party doesn't like the term "teabagger". I was roundly chastized for using it. I'm not sure that civility and niceness will work but I commend them for trying. For me, a teabagger will always be a teabagger..
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:58 PM
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8. Sounds like the equivalency argument |
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 01:03 PM by AlbertCat
I don't think the scales are so balanced. The Repugs seem to be uninterested in governing at all... just like during the Cheney presidency.
There's much talk about sitting down and having civil discourse. Well, who broke that down? The Dems? The Dems do have problems but they are not the ones who handed out, years ago, lists of negative words to use when referring to the opposition or, more recently, how-tos on disrupting Town Halls.
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