TYT: Why Does Obama Continue To Reach Out To These Republicans?

[The Northerner]

Run time: 06:11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idp_4f-ugA8   Posted on YouTube: March 12, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 302   Posted on DU: March 12, 2010 By DU Member: The Northerner Views on DU: 1888

 

[Barbara2423]

1. Who Can we Run in 2012?

[ejbr]

9. Maybe we can start an Alan Grayson write in campaign

he's a non-corporatist politician that may be able to get independents and some republican votes and we can get some good done for the country. (Although Obama isn't ALL bad, but he is really starting to get on my nerves when it comes to "bipartisanship" with this class of obstructionist repukes).

[liberation]

15. You do know that there are other parties than the Dems, right?

Seriously, if the Dem party is not interested in progressives. That is their prerogative, probably progressives should move their support over to the Green party. At some point, the blame for a dysfunctional relationship starts to include to those enabling their abusers after the pattern repeats itself enough times. And honestly, I don't think I have seen the Dem party not stabbing progressives in the back for the better part of at least 2 decades. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice....

Now there are some great exceptions at the Dem party, but there is also the fact that Grayson, Kucinich, et al... are just that: exceptions. And maybe it makes perfect sense to try to transform the Dem party. But at this point, I simply don't know anymore (or care for that matter). If the Dems want to shift more and more to the right, so be it. It is a free country, and they have their right to do so. My vote will move elsewhere though, where it is actually wanted. I simply don't want to hear the perennial bitchfest the DLC types throw because they feel entitled to my vote. That is beyond galling...

When I voted for Obama I was promised "change" and I understood that change was in the context of the 8 years of disaster that the previous administration visited upon us. I most definitively did not think Mr. Obama meant "change" in the context of continuing the same policies as the previous administration, while making sure the sensibilities of those responsible for the clusterfuck Bush led were not hurt.

[ejbr]

18. Well said...n/t

[democracy1st]

2. Obama is using the obstruction by the repubs as a excuse not to pass progressive legislation

been saying that for months.

[Phlem]

3. doesn't he call that

"bipartisanship".

-p

[girl_interrupted]

4. It's truly sad

maybe he thinks republicans will eventually like him, but the problem is, they never will. Republicans don't respect peacemakers, they see them as weak. What they do respect is someone who kicks them in the ass. I'd love to see Obama say "You Republicans are responsible for the mess we are, therefore you have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation, but out. I'm in charge now, my party has the majority and we are going to do it our way" If only.

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[jonathon]

14. Should be obvious points - but those who view Obama as some sor to political savior

Just don't want to see it.

Writing is on the wall.

[Lorien]

20. Yep. He'll be very pleased if the Dems lose the House and Senate in November

then he'll be free to pass one pro-corporate bill after another with impunity.

[MedfordTim]

6. Is that rhetorical? K&R!!!

[ProgressOnTheMove]

7. I don't get it, of course we know there are issues, but demotivating people from ...

to keep at it no matter what isn't the wisest way forward. I just don't see what that achieves. Most folks know there's a lot to contend with, but keeping plugging away is the only answer. We have to look at 2 versions of America McCain's America just ask Arizona about that one, or Obama's where health care has been discussed, analyzed and moved to the next step. I mean President Obama is working from a very different reality from all of us, if he loses Congress the Republicans will impeach him, he's doing all he can to avoid that on his resume. Republicans can drive anything they want to through Congress when in power with their support mechanism, when it's Democrats it's always a precarious balancing act.

[olegramps]

11. Just what charge would they use to impeach Obama?

[liberation]

16. Leave it to the GOP creative department, I am sure they will come up with something interesting

I assume it will be something along the lines that Obama, by virtue of being half black, has been violating some retroactive anti-miscegenation laws and is thus not fit for public office since he is a law breaker. Or some shit like that.

It is sad, because regardless of how hard he tries, he will never ever be accepted or liked by the GOP. Even if ideologically, both Obama and republicans share a lot of commonalities. This whole saga is starting to turn into some subreal Greek tragedy. In which the president who had potential for greatness, squandered by trying to be accepted by those who hated him, while he betrayed those who loved him in the process.

Oh well. I assume at some point someone must have put a "may you live in interesting times" pox on us for our past sins, and here we are...

[Barbara2423]

17. You might have something there. Maybe because his father

walked away from him at an early age. He said something like "he wanted to make his father think he should have stuck around". Sad. But, we must get serious 2012 will be here before you know it. We need a new President. This bipartisanship nonsense makes me want to cry when I think of all the work I've done to get Obama elected.

[The Shadow Knows]

8. Obama is NOT a Democrat

In Barack Obama's cosmic image of his unique gifts, he is no less deluded than the wackiest of religious fundamentalists. He has never led anything. His entire life is a legacy of asking questions from opposing sides, and, by Obama setting up this attractive role model-ship of himself as a fair and honest broker-mediator, He gets both sides to compromise. That may work between slumlords and destitute tenants, but it is absolutely the opposite way politics works. Obama doesn't realize that.

Obama's view is typical of the self-important executive who advises all who will listen that "It's amazing what you can get done when you don't care who gets the credit." This philosophy is both hypocritical and delusional at the same time. In fact, the executive IS claiming success for the outcome by the very statement that the executive is letting others take his credit. In doing so, he is reclaiming credit. That is both delusional and hypocritical.

Does Obama really think that adding a few Republican "good ideas" will placate them by Obama giving them "some" credit? Does he think that letting Republicans take some credit for a successful Obama Administration is the way Republicans would operate to get back in power?

Obama is in some ways more delusional than Bush and Cheney.

Further, Obama's very reason for being the Leader of the Obama Party is to have both Democrats and Republicans to mediate with. If the Republicans drop out of the picture, who needs The Great Mediator from Illinois? Obama is lost. His shtick is mediating by compromising positions, not of leadership based on HIS positions. Obama simply doesn't have positions - just questions and suggestions for compromise between parties who DO have positions. Obama, as Change Has Come To America Obama, is a total and complete fraud committed against those tens of millions of Americans who worked for AND voted for CHANGE. That would include me.

I give credit for this post to my puppy and to my three cats.

[ejbr]

10. +5

a rec for your post, one for your puppy, and one for each of your cats.

[olegramps]

12. The Shadow "knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men."

I remember listening to the radio program when I was a kid. "Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!" It was great to listen to all the shows on Sunday aftenoon.

[jonathon]

13. I own primaryobama.com - I can see it is going to be a wise investment

[Turborama]

21. No-one owns that domain name

I just checked.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

19. The Republicans have taken a page right out of Nixon's playbook

The difference is- Nixon had a shred of subtlety about it.
Of course he needed to back then because the public wasn't nearly as stupid as they are nowadays.