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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:02 AM
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Tim Ryan: Let's Start Over On Health Care
 
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Tim does it again... destroys the right wing talking points (some of which get parroted around here far too often).
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:04 AM
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1. Thanks for posting, Berni. Watched this last night, and he was on fire. nt
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:30 AM
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2. Thanks for that one!
Ryan is putting it closer to the point of the whole thing.

If we were to re-frame this, HCR is a soft term that belies what is actually going on, as I see it.

More succinctly, this is The American People vs. the entrenched, special interests of the insurance industry, which is currently ensconced in an aura of capitalistic protectionism. The profit-driven motives of this industry siphon off massive profits and serve largely to deny and inhibit needed care and, therefore, serves as an unnecessary and malignant obstruction to the common good.

If the sentiments and will of The People had been the issue, this issue could have been put as simply as: Universal, single-payer health care for all? Yea, or nay? We can see the efforts and influence of the special interest involved here on so many levels, from manipulative propaganda, to lobbying, to direct influence of those who purport to represent us. The irony is that the insurance companies are using the very funds that they are extracting from their marks, (customers?) to assure that they retain a dominant position in relation to our access to proper medical care.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:31 AM
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3. The GOP would of could of should of done health reform and now run to repeal lower costs. Looking
forward to that campaign too.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:44 AM
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4. We SHOULD start over; with single payer
but the corporate whores say "that's impossible". Trillions for wars of choice are possible, and saving American lives is not? I'm calling bullshit.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:24 PM
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5. Time to move on.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 05:17 PM
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11. Jeez, When and where have I heard that before...
Good grief.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:25 PM
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6. If we start over, it won't be done by elections...
...and then it will never start because we will have lost the majority.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:32 PM
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7. There is no starting over ...
because we wouldn't start from a clean slate. If it actually WERE a clean slate that might be a possibility. But it would never be. Starting over wouldn't accomplish one more thing except giving the Republicans better preparation to fight everything. Especially their obsession with fear tactics. They work all too well with a desparate citizenry.

As flawed as this may be, it is a place where we can gain something and CONTINUE ON to fight more. Grayson and others have shown guts and the possibilities of emboldened Democrat leaders.

Clean slate NOTHING is, at this point, unworkable in this political climate.

Tim Ryan has it right.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 01:34 PM
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8. Anything, anything to stall, so health care dies - republicans their love for corporations & disdain
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 01:49 PM by GreenTea
for workers whom they see as peasants, peons, pawns, pain-in-the-ass workers, who actually want a living wage for their hard work....and workers want social programs like health care for their tax dollars.....

Republicans say NO, they say lets stall, let's start over, let's not have any health care reform, let's kill the bill, let's move on to anything else so we republicans can say no to that too, we are obstructionist.

Anything, so corporations can go on profiting big time, charging outrageous premiums to profit over the sick and needy....Fuck the people, the workers who can't afford the premiums or are too sick for insurance corporations to insure them because they'll hurt insurance corporations profits, too bad, the republicans answer, just die, ASAP please!
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 05:20 PM
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12. You do realize, Tim Ryan is a Democrat. Right?
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:17 PM
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9. K and R
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 05:05 PM
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10. I know Tim he is a good man !
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