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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:06 PM
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Is this video going too far?
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LajYZyjiXPE
 
Posted on YouTube: March 28, 2010
By YouTube Member: Adam4tvs
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Posted on DU: March 29, 2010
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Honest question to you out there. I've done several political videos, but this was one I made 2 years ago but took down within hours for fear it would be misunderstood. I've posted it again because quite honestly? I'm scared again. Would love your feedback.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:11 PM
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1. He has much better protection.
In Dallas, JFK's bodyguards stepped away from the car.

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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 02:57 PM
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30. I agree...
...the secret service is head and shoulders above what they were 45 years ago...

...but I don't believe the hatred was at this level back then. I may be wrong, I wasn't alive...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:19 PM
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2. Honestly, I think it plays too much into fear.
It is not up to "us" to protect the President. The Secret Service is diligent and tireless. They are professionals, and it is their job.

Us focusing on these types of images stoke fear and anger, unnecessarily.
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willhe Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 03:21 AM
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16. Secret service?
This may be controversial but I wouldnt trust anyone that worked for dick cheney. How many lapses in security have they had already?
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:02 AM
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19. A few, and minor ones. They are professionals. And they didn't work for Cheney . . .
They worked for America. And they did their jobs very well.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 03:21 PM
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26. please know... I create what I feel...
That was how I felt 2 years ago when I made it, and once again, it's really hitting me. An honest plea, an honest concern. I think we should share these feelings...
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:22 PM
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3.  No they won't
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:32 PM by liberaltrucker
The President is alive and kicking, and will remain so.

Security is MUCH better and MUCH more professional now
than in '63 or '68. Our President is safe.

Just let an armed teabagger get close enough to him to
be a threat. Those guys and gals wearing the sunglasses
and armed with hidden Uzis will handle the "situation"
quite well. Count on it.

:patriot:

Edited to add: THEY spread fear and paranoia, WE don't.

:spank:
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:46 PM
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6. + 10 n/t
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davidhilton Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:37 PM
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4. I think it's not necessary to perpetuate the ideas of Obama being injured,
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 08:39 PM by davidhilton
you're tune is cool, i would say write some other stuff, but don't put it in everybody's face, that the threat of Obama and Kennedy's fate could be the same. Just my opinion - but you asked.
Time to stop playing the fear card so much.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:48 PM
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27. Way off base...
It's not "playing the fear card" when you admit you're scared about something. As an artist, I simply communicate my feelings. This is what I feel. I'm not threatening, I'm not imposing, I'm sharing. The recent uproar over health care (seriously folks, we're talkin' 'bout HEALTH CARE - not killing people, but helping people) - anyway THAT uproar just has me sick to my stomach. That's why I'm sharing the video.
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Vermontgrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:38 PM
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5. Seriously...
Because Obama is who he is, sadly this shit can happen here in this country full of unregistered guns and crazy bastards that think they can end change. Change has come and if on the side of good, the fight is hard and the fight organized and strong, change will come.
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:52 PM
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7. Either way
It's just nice to hear a new song that actually has some meaning to it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:00 PM
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8. i thought it was an awesome video. it felt like a call out for his death
two very contradictive feelings with this video.

on the one hand, watching, and the music, song, was excellent and heartfelt. felt good to hear those words and remember those men. the making of the video was excellent, imo.

but, calling it to attention in the manner it is called to attention (in a karma, action/reaction kinda way) with the dead and the live obama just felt like it was putting obama in that place of death.
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Rage Inc. Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:22 PM
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9. I tense up whenever he's speaking to a large crowd on live TV
Especially if it's outdoors. We've a nasty little tendency to kill our best and brightest.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:47 PM
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10. I actually like the song....but
I don't think they are prepared to assassinate another one right now....If they were so bold to do so there would be riots in the streets, and not just black people.

No as long as Obama does not push the wrong button, like exposing their criminal behavior, or other secrets they will just keep trying to destroy him with political violence.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 06:40 AM
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33. are you serious?
the riots in the streets are already happening. what part of these events look "stable" to you? They're bringing guns to health care debates for fuck's sake.
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A Physicist Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:12 PM
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11. I think it’s when somebody’s sick

Your video and song are good and a call to be vigilant. The right erupts into occasional outbursts: Red Scare here, McCarthyism there, and Dixie Chick the dissenters, ready your teabags “real ‘mericans”.
In my opinion the right is defiantly fomenting intense hatred and hoping to awaken a “lone wolf” to do what they would never openly call for, for fear of arrest. You bet they are waiting and hoping for a "savior" to end their nightmare of having a, God forbid, Blackman leading THEIR nation. Not our nation, THEIR nation. As far as they are concerned we are only RENTING America, they OWN America and feel a sense of hereditary ideological entitlement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uqNLnEzDLA&feature=related

The rightwing is destructive and malfeasant when they hold the reigns of power and dangerous when they don’t.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:44 AM
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21. I believe you are right.
Every word they speak is designed to inflame and anger. This country is full of nut jobs willing and able to do the job with no help from anyone.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 01:31 PM
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29. wow...
I actually never thought about that. They just continue to instigate until one person does lose their mind, then condemn him, but getting what they wanted all along. There's always the lunatic fringe, I've just never seen it so riled up by the mainstream politicians.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:36 PM
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12. WE need to help protect!! All of us!
This has been in the back of my mind since Senator Obama began his campaign. This country is NOT above killing our own, for corporatist or Zionist purposes. We have been suspected of doing it in the past, and we sure as hell are capable of doing again. Been watching the crazies at the teabagger reunions? We are a nation of nutballs.

I'm sure President Obama and his family are acutely aware of the threat against him. He is ruffling some feathers out there, and changing this country is NOT an easy task, or one that will change without some resistance.

God help our President, but WE need to be vigilant as well whenever we are near him. The whole country needs to be vigilant.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:01 AM
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18. It's physics, really.
For eight long years, our country stood still (or slid backward and stayed there). Getting an inert object to move requires friction. So some opposition to change is expected.
But it is not an excuse for domestic/teabag terrorism. Our deeply divided nation is a tinderbox, and Rethugs are lighting the matches.

Hulk, you're 100 percent correct. We must be vigilant.

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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:36 PM
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13. It's very disturbing, but life and art often are.
Is it going too far? I don't know. It sets an eerie foreboding stage that a few may want to act upon. I know you mean well, but I'm feeling much more scared after watching this video. :scared:
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:34 PM
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34. :(
I didn't mean to scare in THAT way. I wanted to inspire AWARENESS. Not a time to be scared or to back down. It's a time to take note of how a small minority is being drummed into violence. It's happening now and they're hardly hiding the fact...
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eyeofdelphi Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 01:19 AM
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14. sorry, but i think it's a valid question
i hear my uber republican family, all the time, wonder outloud why he hasn't been killed yet (and pelosi, they add). seriously. the last occasion was the day after HCR was passed. it's a shitty reality, but there are people ignorant enough and angry enough out there. just to add, no one in my family would ever ever do such a thing. they don't even own guns, wouldn't even know how to use one, and don't have the mindset of murderers. i just don't think that they would be upset at all if something like that were to happen. and it scares me, that these average, middle class, church going people that are my blood and that i love, if they feel that way, then there have to be people out there that are way more violent in their hate. sad but true.
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 03:16 AM
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15. It doesn't go far enough.
Years ago I was indecisive about Clinton. Bill. When he won the California primary there was this moment when I heard myself say "Oh God please don't anyone kill him."

I knew then he was to be "my" President. I got to shake his hand once. Wow. I still have the 1992 Demo convention on tape and the 1993 MTV party to remind me of the potential of that time.

When Barack Obama gave the speech in Denver and HuffPost comedy team's headline of the photo was "HE DIDN'T GET SHOT" I laughed because I had the same idea. Our President is in danger from many sources and if I could I would "watch the sky" for him. It is my duty.... it just is.

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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:44 AM
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17. You are so right.
Teabag terrorists are ramped up. All it takes is one nutjob to go off. And the Rethug "leaders" and talk-show hosts are fanning the flames. Sickening.

I like the video. Its message is direct and disturbing. We should be disturbed.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:04 PM
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28. thanks for the support...
...but i want to reiterate that my intention was not to disturb people. This is how I FEEL. This is what made ME sick 2 years ago, and it's happening again. This is very serious, and I really do believe awareness can help... but more than anything just had to share my feelings.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 04:26 PM
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32. Whatever your intent, lots of people feel the way you do.
Hope you're not offended that I find the video's message disturbing. I mean it in a good way. Like a wake-up call.
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:43 AM
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20. I have the same fear/nightmare. It's healthy to talk about it. (nt)
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:45 AM
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22. Ignoring the issue will not help. nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:29 AM
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23. Don't visualize what you DONT WANT.
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Adam4tvs Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 12:25 PM
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25. ..if you never visualized what you don't want...
...you'd never be prepared for anything negative. You don't seriously believe this way of thinking, do you?
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:38 AM
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24. Imagine him protected, safe, healthy and vibrantly alive. Always.
That's what is needed.
Along with the most vigilant and trained secret service.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 03:05 PM
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31. If they try...
Edited on Thu Apr-01-10 03:13 PM by butterfly77
the aftermath won't be even close to what they think it. It will be worse.

The times are different,people are different. The nuts,teabaggers,republicons and the rest think they are living in the fifties or sixties many of them don't even know what is in this country because they just live in some little town and believe that the world is their reality only.

DON'T EVEN TRY IT!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Oh,And I like the video..Some people really are now just waking up to the fact of what is really going on with these teabaggers.
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