Brother Of Dead Reuters Photographer Namir Nour El Deen Reacts To The Video Released By Wikileaks

[Turborama]

Run time: 01:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgqRzwh-fI   Posted on YouTube: April 05, 2010 By YouTube Member: AlJazeeraEnglish Views on YouTube: 13   Posted on DU: April 06, 2010 By DU Member: Turborama Views on DU: 2739

 
Nabil Nour El Deen, Reuters photographer Namir Nour El Deen's brother, has told Al Jazeera English after watching the footage that it is clearly a crime committed by the US military.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Wow. That poor man.

:cry:

[kas125]

5. it's so sad for him, and also for the thousands just like him

whose relatives aren't on video and we never hear about. My heart breaks for them all.

[NJCher]

2. my heart goes out to him

How awful it must have been to watch his brother's death.


Cher

[annm4peace]

3. I sent a note to my Reps along with the posting on DU of the video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x451962


I am glad this video is out so people can see what our Government is doing to innocent people.
I'm including the site I first saw it on so you can see the comments. You continue to support this illegal war and occupation. Innocent children continue to be killed by our military. This video just shows one, just one incident. We continue to kill innocent fathers, brothers, sons, daughters, mothers, sisters. Their blood is on your hands. You continue to vote to fund the military. You vote against bringing the troops home now. You continue to escalate the # of troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. How many more innocent children have to be killed by our government before you vote to bring the troops home?

[ooglymoogly]

13. More like millions. History will never; And we must never forgive

what has happened to this country and what those responsible have done to Iraq and now Afghanistan, in the last 10 years; nor will it forget that this crime got it's momentum under the criminal leadership of RR and the drug wars; Nor will we or history, forget that its roots sprung from the assassination of JFK; Nor will history forget these mounting crimes are from the same bunch of criminally insane, paranoid zealots and their evil spawn, using that cover for pure evil and soulless greed.

[duhneece]

19. Thank you for taking action nt

[MrMickeysMom]

4. KICK..........This story needs to live...

How can we let this continue?

[EFerrari]

6. .

[sabrina 1]

7. How many of these crimes are committed that we don't

hear about. This is only news because a reporter from a major news organization was murdered. Pat Tillman's death would still be a lie on the record, if he had not been famous.

I can't imagine how his brother must feel watching his brother being hunted like an animal, unarmed, while the killers laugh.

And then blame the rescuer for the wounding of his children. Two more Iraqi children without a father and with images of horror to grow up with.

And people wonder why they hate us ... it won't bring his brother back, but at least he has some of us questions answered and that will help him and his family a little.

The military report said that the helicopters were being fired on. That was clearly a lie.

[sasquuatch55]

18. Many..........Daily!

nt

[whatsthebuzz]

8. Disgusting act by our military

It makes me wonder how many other videos like this exist. What creeped me out is that the pilots seemed to show no remorse, making it just cold-blooded murder. I do support our military 100%, but not shit like this. We're better than this.

[annm4peace]

9. so sad to hear him.

I can't imagine their anger and pain.

With all the protests, sit-ins, arrests of protesters, money spent to campaign against our wars.

Books written..

this BS contiues.. it is so frustrating and heartbreaking.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

10. They are trigger happy cold blooded killers

It's like a video game to them. The American military were led to believe, by Bush and Cheney, that Iraq was responsible for 9/11. I feel sick watching this and I know it's just the tip of the iceberg.

[thereismore]

12. Any military unleashed with a sense of superiority over its enemy will do this. nt

[sulphurdunn]

15. Any military will do this.

We train soldiers to kill. We send them to kill, and they kill. That's what they are expected to do. They are instruments of our will. In this case our killers (and I mean our killers) manufactured an excuse to kill. Disciplined soldiers are not supposed to do that. The problem is less with the trigger puller than with the officer who commands him, the politician who sends him and the citizen who glorifies him. Turn the countenance of your wrath there. This is still a democratic republic. All Americans are culpable for the actions of their armed forces.

[lumpy]

16. This American is not culpable for the actions of the US armed

forces and I sure as hell don't glorify the military. To say all Americans are culpable for the actions of US forces is ridiculous.

[sulphurdunn]

17. The hell you're not.

You live here by choice and by right. You drink the water, eat the food, burn the gas, make the money and pay the taxes that bought the equipment and trained the soldiers you saw on that video. Your hands aren't clean. Denial will not wash away the blood of those people. This is a moral issue. The only redemption is through change. You are responsible for that change. Do something. When you figure out what to do let me know. Because if you have an answer, now's the time to say.

[sabrina 1]

20. That logic is so faulty.

Is a parent responsible when a child commits a crime, murder eg? The only way a parent would be responsible would be if they were to hide evidence or otherwise approve of or encourage the crime.

The only people in this country who are responsible for what the military is doing in these wars is the government and those who defend and apologize for and try to justify these acts.

People who have spoken out and called their Reps and demonstrated against these illegal wars, are not responsible for the fact that their government will not listen to them.

What do you suggest people do, not just here in the U.S. but anywhere a government chooses to commit war crimes and is far more likely to punish those who object than they are those who support them?

We could storm the WH, but that wouldn't stop these wars. We could do the same with Congress, but it would do nothing to stop these crimes.

Stop shifting the blame for this. It rests first on the heads of this government, those who started the wars and those who continue the policies and also on those who vote to fund them. And equally responsible are those citizens who excuse the crimes for whatever reason, rather than join those who are trying to stop them.

Americans who have opposed these wars from the beginning are victims of the powerful government officials who ignore them because aside from the morality issues, they are endangering Americans and as you have done, putting them in the position of being blamed for crimes they have nothing to do with.

[sulphurdunn]

21. Faulty logic?

Normally, I would agree with you, but this isn't about logic, faulty or otherwise. Maybe, I'm really speaking to myself here and not to you. I don't know, but ask yourself what the post WWII generation of Germans thought about the logic of national guilt. Have you raised children? Of course a parent is guilty when a child commits a crime. That's why moral parents feel such quilt and inadequacy over it. They are little concerned about the legal and logical definitions of guilt. Few parents would make the excuse that they bear no responsibility for the failure of their children because they "did what they could", even though reason might dictate it. The powers that extort the money from you to pay the men who make the weapons to kill people doing nothing but standing around are your brethren, your national family. You can't wash your hands of that because you did your best when your best wasn't good enough.

[sabrina 1]

23. Feeling guilt is a lot different than 'being guilty'.

Parents will feel guilty if a child does something wrong. But the law does not hold them responsible s that would be wrong.

Of course we all feel guilty and angry that we could not stop this government from going to war, but is someone guilty, eg, if they try to save someone from drowning, but fail to do so despite their best efforts? They may and probably will feel guilty and wonder if there wasn't something else they could have done, but that doesn't make them guilty, in fact they are to be commended for trying, regardless of how they feel. A guilty person would be someone who watched and did nothing.

As far as the national guilt of the German people, many did feel guilty, but many tried, some took heroic actions and hid Jews from the Nazis and if they could have, they would have stopped their country from going down the evil path they took.

Those who do bear responsibility are those who, before it became impossible without risking death, ignored the signs even when others tried to warn them.

Have you ever tried to get a Republican during the Bush administration, to condemn torture eg? I have, but failed to do so. Is that my fault, that there are people whose minds cannot be changed? Because they are the ones who made it possible. If we were to be able to stop it, we needed to be able to change the minds of Bush supporters and some of us did try.

They were fully in support of Bush's wars. Trying to get them to think about what they were supporting, which I know I did many times, was futile. They had all the talking points memorized and it was impossible to reach them with reason. Their responses varied from 'typical, commie, liberal terrors-supporting coward' to 'don't worry your pretty little head, we'll protect you from the terrorists'. Short of deprogramming half the country from the cult-like war euphoria they were in, there simply was no way to change their minds.

So, whose fault it that? What should I have done differently, to stop them from supporting these crimes?

And the drum-beat from the media was working against those who tried also. There were many forces in favor of war and few on the side of those opposed it. All of them, the media , the administration, Congress who voted for it, supporters, the military itself, all those forces were against us. But those who tried, while they may feel guilty about not trying harder, are NOT guilty of these crimes that they tried to stop.

[hulka38]

25. Many Democrats in DC and the constituents who supported them bear

responsibility for what has happened in Iraq these past seven years.

[sabrina 1]

26. I agree with that. I already included those who

democrats who went along, and those who are still going along. That would be the rightwing of the Democratic Party, the DLC. They are warmongers who supported the Iraq War and the only difference between them and Republicans is that they give lip service to a few 'progressive' issues, like abortion and gay rights. In every other way, they and their supporters are rightwingers. And yes, they do bear responsibility for these atrocities, which is why we see them try so hard to justify them.

[hulka38]

27. True.

I think those people have no moral compass or pay it no heed. They are political creatures who make their decisions based on what's best for their careers.

[annm4peace]

28. If you live in American and pay taxes

You paid for this action and others. as did I.

We are responsible for our government.

[Turborama]

22. "All Americans are culpable for the actions of their armed forces" = Suicide Bomber Logic

"All Americans are culpable for the actions of their armed forces" = 9/11

"All Australians are culpable for the actions of their armed forces" = Bali Bombings

"All British are culpable for the actions of their armed forces" = London Bombings

"All Spanish are culpable for the actions of their armed forces" = Madrid Bombings (not suicide but you get the point by now)

[sulphurdunn]

29. As long as the armed forces are under the control

of civilian governments that the people elect, the people are culpable for the actions of the armed forces. This is especially true when a long train of misconduct becomes apparent and nothing is done about it.

[Turborama]

30. Bullshit

As can be seen by how unsuccessful the MILLIONS of people around the world who protested against the illegal invasion of Iraq were in stopping it, once they have been voted in there is nothing the general public can do to stop them doing what they chose. Unfortunately, it's out of our hands until the next election. Unless you consider starting a civil war to stop a war would make sense.

There was no mention of either wars in the 2000 election so none of the electorate voted to go to war in Afghanistan or Iraq. If there were a national referendum on whether the country should go to war or not and it was decided that way, your argument may have some merit.

However, what you're saying is tantamount to apologetics for the deliberate acts of mass murder of civilians listed above. Any deliberate murder of civilians is wrong, whoever the perpetrator is.

BTW "the people" didn't "elect" George Walker Bush. He was forced upon us.

[midnight]

11. K&R End this-Now....

[ooglymoogly]

14. Remember these names that will live in infamy;

Crazyhorse, Copperhead, Bushmaster and the rest if these cold blooded murderers. Remember them loudly and bring their true names forward from top command down until they are hounded into a prison cell. Our country is losing any vestige of respect it once had by these heinous acts.

[hulka38]

24. I'm not an all caps guy but THIS is the kind of shit that drives people to fly planes into buildings

Jealous of our freedoms my ass.