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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:13 PM
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TYT: O'Reilly & Hannity Rip TYT Tea Party Interview w/ (D) Rep. Steve Cohen (w/ Fox News Footage)
Edited on Wed Apr-07-10 07:19 PM by ihavenobias
 
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Summary: Cenk plays Fox News clips where Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity rip Democratic Congressman Steve Cohen's TYT interview comments. Rep. Cohen has received some as a direct result of the interview last Thursday (where he ripped the racist, violent nature of some Tea Partiers) which gained national media attention (see links below). You can http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/apr/06/us-capitol-police-investigating-e-mailed-threat-co/|read about it here>.

Limbaugh Reacts: http://tinyurl.com/ya7vx6x

Lou Dobbs Reacts: http://tinyurl.com/ygmk8rp

Alan Colmes Reacts: http://tinyurl.com/yhav6ac

Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/y8fv3l8

Newsweek: http://tinyurl.com/y8zydfv

Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/ybne83r

Free Republic: http://tinyurl.com/ygpp73a & http://tinyurl.com/y95bwq3

RedState: http://tinyurl.com/yzq8ykd
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:21 PM
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1. K and R
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:22 PM
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2. K&R n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:30 PM
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3. The Racist Party
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Althaia Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 07:49 PM
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4. did O'reilly ACTUALLY SAY...
..that 'it is not the job of the media to engineer political thinking?'

same old Fox lies and projection.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:24 PM
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6. Hilarious. Classic. nt
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:01 PM
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18. My Irony Meter exploded when I heard that. n/t
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Styxiv Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:22 PM
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5. Not to mention
What's with the label DEMOCRATIC pollsters? COME ON!! Since when would Fox use DEMOCRATS? Look at the NEXT label below when they say their names! And here is the give away "FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR" BINGO!!!! If you're a Faux news contributor YOUR RIGHT WING PERIOD!! They would NEVER EVER us someone who may disagree with them. It's like when they use Dick(less) Morris and EVERY DAM STINKING TIME say "former Clinton advisor" in other words see even this DEMOCRAT is against them so they must be wrong. All this means is at one time Morris WAS a Democrat and now has switched parties and seen the error of his ways.

the RARE time they use someone is on Hannitys great American panel and sorry don't know the guys name (you might) he does stand up to Hannity and call a spade a spade but TRUE Democrats are few and far between on these shows OR they use limp ass Noodle *ussies that sit back and take it and I'm embarrassed they are ALLOWED to call themselves Democrats when they just sit back like little biathes and take it. PATHETIC!!

MOST of the SO CALLED Democrats they use on these shows are used as exmples of "See even their own party is against them" losers.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:25 PM
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7. K&R nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 08:41 PM
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8. Way to piss off the douchebags
:thumbsup:
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:32 PM
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9. One of O'Lielly's BEST "my viewers are dumb douche bags" performances!
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seattle_blue Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 10:45 PM
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10. honestly
if you are to believe the numbers at the beginning of the video, you would have to believe that teabaggers are honest. I am willing to bet any amount that they were ordered to tell any pollsters that they are "independents." This is a highly organized, and well funded machine.
I do have one fear though. The republicans are very well known for stealing elections. That is an undeniable fact. I am beginning to wonder if they are not using the ol' independents abandoned Obama meme, hence, president palin. These monsters have done it before, and I promise, they will do it again.
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Deadgnome Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-10 11:43 PM
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11. I work for Gallup doing interviews
And I can assure you that those that are calling themselves Independent are not true independents. Instead they are just life-long Republicans that think it is a cool thing to say because the Becks, Limbaughs, Savages, and Ingrams of the world tell their viewers it daily.

The funny thing about this data is that they never show our follow-up question we ask on the demographics. When we ask if someone is Republican, Democrat or Independent and they say that they are Independent the follow-up question is "Do you lean to either the Republican or Democratic party" Most quote "Independents" I am finding are saying that they are more closely identified with the Republican party. The kicker is the very next question asks "Do you consider your political beliefs to be Very Conservative, Conservative, Moderate, Liberal, or Very Liberal?" Most that I find that say they are Independent again fall in the Conservative to Very Conservative coding.

It's absurd how the media is using these polls. They aren't accurate for one (plus minus 4, but I'd beg to say more like 10), the target demographic is stacked on any particular day, we call the South ALOT, a vast majority of our target market are either stay at home moms, the unemployed, the retired, the psychotic one way or another (You haven't lived until you spend 30 minutes doing a 10 minute survey with a paranoid schizophrenic), and generally lonely people that are widowed or single that do not have anyone to talk to and generally watch a lot of television.

You'd be surprised how many people actually say that they watch FOX News and think they are informed. I have to mute and laugh constantly as a result. I have people telling me that they were never political and have never voted, nor cared about politics, but now they do because the Commies are coming. And yes, they say Commies and far worse, even when I remind them they are being recorded.

Oh well, this party isn't legitimate, and most decent Americans will not buy this bullshit. Wait until campaign season gets into full swing and you see 10 of these fuck-rags trying to suck the teat of an underemployed populous for donations. I have a feeling that these people aren't smart enough to know that you shouldn't flood a particular seat with oodles of potential candidates. Just wait until you see the brilliance in their campaign ads, slogans, etc. If their protest signs are any indication it should be interesting to say the least. I'm sure that in 2 months time we will see borderline if not full-blown racist, homophobic, isolationist, xeno-phobic, sociopathic, etc. etc. etc. mantras coming from these candidates and the general, decent-minded population will spit in their general direction, that or just do the opposite of what these imbeciles want, which is to vote for the other guy. They are playing with fire here and don't understand that there is a solid base of Democrats that will vote against these folks and the Republican side of the aisle will be busy dividing up their votes all while simply shooting themselves in the feet Nader style.

And even if they do win a few seats, can you imagine a REAL "Good ol boy," Joe the Plumber, poorly educated malcontent actually being able to function in Washington? I surely can't.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:53 AM
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13. Intelligence and education are not prerequisites. There exist plenty already.
Haven't watched Colbert in a long while but that was pretty obvious from his Better Know a District segments. At least one rep I recall even laughed about it. They can function because they can do what they are told and make good puppets.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:17 AM
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15. Your first paragraph is dead-on right and explains that recent poll that claims 51% of
teabaggers are either democrats or independents. Thanks for this post and welcome to DU.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:37 AM
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17. Welcome to DU Deadgnome
You probably need a little left wing discourse considering where you are! Although, of the all places in NE, Lincoln is probably the most liberal.
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Deadgnome Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:11 PM
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19. Lol
Yeah, I'm a Minnesota boy, born and bred, and was living in Mankato for the last 5 years, finishing my undergrad. Now the wife is finishing her degree here at UNL. Omaha is a bit more liberal than Lincoln, but overall there isn't much liberal discourse with the Ben Nelson Democrats running amuck. I was working for Tim Walz before I moved and had thought of keeping up the policy research with Nelson, but the more I looked at him, and with Walz's dissuading I opted against it. I have been a reader of this site for years, but have only recently began posting.
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Deadgnome Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:29 PM
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20. Here is some more info on this poll....
More on the Tea Party Movement
Each side of the political spectrum appears to have a vested interest in portraying the Tea Party movement in the specific way that best fits their ideological positioning. This is of course not at all a surprising fact of life in a hot political environment.

Those with a negative orientation toward the Tea Party have an interest in marginalizing it as a narrow segment of ideologues. Those with a positive orientation are interested in portraying the movement as widespread and representative of a broad swath of the American population.

The exact "size" of this movement is difficult to quantify. The number of actual participants in the Tea Party movement -- those who appear in person at rallies or meetings -- is, on a relative basis, small. That is, hundreds or thousands or even tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands as compared to the base of 300+ million Americans or about 220 million adult Americans. But. As is the case for an iceberg, what's visible often tells us little about the size of what is beneath the water.

Survey research has an important role to play in this arena. Surveys are, in theory, our most effective mechanism for gauging the level of commitment or support or agreement with the Tea Party movement out there across the country.


Note that I used several different nouns to describe what it is we are measuring. That’s because there is not an accepted or universally agreed-upon standard for defining participation in the Tea Party movement.

Let’s look at some numbers. We asked Americans in our USA Today/Gallup poll if they considered themselves to be a “supporter of the Tea Party movement, an opponent of the Tea Party movement, or neither.” The results showed 28% supporters, 26% opponents, and the rest either “neither” or with no opinion.

This question leaves it to the respondent to define what is meant by support (and opposition). It assumes nothing about either physical support (going to a rally) or financial support.

Contrast that to the finding of a recent Quinnipiac poll which asked “Do you consider yourself part of the Tea party movement or not” and found only 13% saying yes. The phrase “a part of . . . ” here presumably connotes to the respondent a more active form of participation. It’s unlikely that 29 million Americans (13% of the 220 million 18+ adults in this country) have actively participated in a rally or some other behavioral manifestation of support. But the language appears to erect a more substantial cognitive barrier for the respondent than does “support.” More people say they are supporters than are willing to say that they are “a part” of the movement.

This 13% in the Quinnipiac poll is similar to the 11% who were defined as Tea Party “activists” by CNN based on a poll conducted back in February. The CNN question defined activists as those who at that point said they had given money to the Tea Party movement, attended a rally or meeting associated with the Tea Party movement, or took “other active steps to support the Tea Party movement, either in person or on the Internet.”

At the other end of the spectrum, a recent The Washington Post/ABC News poll asked “Given what you know about the Tea Party's positions on the issues, would you say that overall you agree with them strongly, agree somewhat, disagree somewhat, or disagree strongly?”

The results showed 46% agreeing with the issues either strongly or somewhat. Forty percent disagreed.

This is, of course, a fairly loose definition of support. I think there would be general agreement that one of the Tea Party movement’s positions on the issues is opposition to the recently enacted healthcare reform law. Our most recent poll found that 50% of Americans think that passage of this law was a bad thing. In theory, all of these people could therefore have said that they agree with the Tea Party’s positions on the issues. The 50% who say healthcare reform was a bad thing is not too far off of the 46% in the Washington Post/ABC News poll who say they agree (at least somewhat) with the Tea Party's positions on the issues.

So we are left with a fairly wide range of reactions to the Tea Party as defined by surveys -- ranging from 11% to 13% who are “activists” or who define themselves as “a part” of the movement to 46% who at least somewhat agree with the Tea Party movement’s ideas.

Our Gallup measure of “support/opposition” allows people to respond affirmatively who may not be active in the movement, yet restricts the respondents to those who have to have more than a modicum of support for the whole idea of the Tea Party movement. As it turns out, our 28% support figure appears to be somewhat of a midpoint.

Who Supports the Tea Party Movement?

Exactly who is or is not a supporter of the Tea Party movement? As you can tell from my discussion above, a lot of the answer to that question is going to depend on how you define support. (See here for a profile of supporters based on an analysis of the “activist” question asked in February in the CNN/Opinion Research poll).

My colleague Lydia Saad showed tables that deconstructed supporters (based on our Gallup question) into various political, ideological, and demographic categories. Tea Party supporters are actually fairly close to the overall national average in terms of their age, education, employment status, and, to a degree, racial and ethnic backgrounds.

The finding on employment is important. A recent piece in The New York Times highlighted Tea Party activists who were able to find time for their activism because they were unemployed. (Of course, being unemployed also generates a lot of angst and anger, which can be displaced onto social movements.) But our data on Tea Party supporters shows them to be no more likely to be unemployed that the average American. About half are employed full-time and a quarter retired -- both figures that are very close to what we found for all Americans we interviewed.

Politically and ideologically, Tea Party supporters are different from the overall American population. In particular, as Lydia points out, only 8% of supporters in response to our question identify as Democrats. That compares to 32% of all of those interviewed in the sample who were Democrats. Forty-nine percent were Republicans, compared to 28% in the overall sample. And 43% independent, compared to 40% in the entire sample.

These partisan data are based on what we call our “original” question on party identification: “In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, or an independent?”

Of interest are the data based on leaned independents. (We follow up with those who identify as independents and ask: “As of today, do you lean more to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?”) In this particular poll, the combined categories ended up being 46% Republican/lean Republican and 46% Democrat/lean Democrat.)

It appears that a healthy majority of those independents who are supporters of the Tea Party movement lean toward the Republican Party. When we do the math, we end up with 83% of supporters who are Republican or lean Republican, 4% who are pure independent (don’t lean to either party) and 13% who are Democratic or lean Democratic.

The conclusion is simply a reinforcement of what Lydia wrote in the story: “Tea Party supporters are decidedly Republican and conservative in their leanings.” Just how different these supporters are on other demographic dimensions will depend on how they are defined.

Link: http://pollingmatters.gallup.com/2010/04/more-on-tea-party-movement.html
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 07:05 PM
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21. Interesting.
Thanks for sharing this.
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HappyCynic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:41 AM
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12. K & R
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:04 AM
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14. Teabaggers value reality almost as much as young earthers. And what a pleasure it is to debate
people like that.
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:47 AM
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16. 51% not Republicans
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 03:49 AM by WhoIsNumberNone
As Cenk pointed out (and as I thought immediately when O'Reilley tried to make this point) just because they don't call themselves Republicans doesn't mean they aren't right-wingers. In fact, chances are (again, as Cenk also pointed out) that they are so far to the right that they don't think the Republicans are right-wing enough.

I'm bothering to post this because I have some first-hand experience with these kinds of people. Just as the craziest, most fundamentalist Christians will never claim a denomination (insisting that they are simply "Christians") the most right-wing nut jobs will almost always call themselves "independents". How many KKK members do you suppose call themselves Republicans? Not very many. They all vote Republican, but they are holding out hope that some day a more right-wing party may come along.
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