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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:44 PM
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Sons Of Confederate Veterans Chairman Defends Omission Of Slavery From Confederate History Month
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 01:45 PM by Turborama
 
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Tamran Hall dealt with this hoodless Klansman extremely professionally. Her sigh at the very end says it all.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:55 PM
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1. A quote from the vice-president of the CSA:
Andrew Stephens, CSA Vice-President, the Cornerstone Speech - March 21, 1861, three weeks before battle of Fort Sumter
http://civilwarcauses.org/corner.htm
But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition.
This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind -- from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics; their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just -- but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.

In the conflict thus far, success has been on our side, complete throughout the length and breadth of the Confederate States. It is upon this, as I have stated, our social fabric is firmly planted; and I cannot permit myself to doubt the ultimate success of a full recognition of this principle throughout the civilized and enlightened world.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-10 01:30 AM
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10. Here's the homepage of that address:
http://civilwarcauses.org/ Looks to be a good source for that Civil War. I'm currently listening to the Audible.com version of Howard Zinn's "A People's History Of The United States", and have just finished the Civil War and its aftermath. Frequently when reading such books, I stop and web-check for accuracy. On the whole, Howard is FAR more on target than most conventional histories.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:13 PM
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2. What is friggin' WRONG with these people????
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 02:16 PM by AlbertCat
They claim to be so proud of their history and then pretend to ignore the huge 10000 lb gorilla in the room.

Yes it is true that the Civil War STARTED because SC seceded and Lincoln called the soldiers to go defend Ft Sumter.

But why exactly did SC secede? Huh?

Like I said before, these things don't just all of a sudden come up. History does not happen in a vacuum. Has this Jeff Davis ever heard of:

The Missouri Compromise (1820-something)

The compromise of 1850? (interestingly, this included the ban of the slave trade (BUT NOT SLAVERY) in the District of Columbia! To do this they had to give Alexandria (where I used to live) back to VA....where Alexandria remained a major part of the slave trade.... one of its main businesses. See....nothing to do with slavery in VA!)

Hell that thing about the North West... the North West Ordinance (?) which bans slavery in that territory and starts the tit for tat arguments about slave vs free states is like 1780-something!

I need to look it up on Wikipedia...

God I'm sick of selective history! I may not be able to remember everything accurately, but I do know slavery was a problem since the friggin' 1690s!

Real history is much more fun, interesting.... and MESSY!
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:41 PM
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4. Slavery Was Also a Worldwide Issue for Centuries
That it has become so closely associated with the American South is a misreading of history in my view.
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:16 PM
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7. southern brutality was unique.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 07:01 PM
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9. southern brutality was unique.
Yeah... all those gladiator games and stuff.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:30 PM
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3. "sons" ???? The civil war ended like 8 generations ago...
How old is this guy 150 years?

Dishonest even when it comes to name their organizations, what a bunch of chickenshits. Got their asses handed to them and still bitch about it.

Grow a pair jackasses...
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:47 PM
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5. Not really, Liberation. I look at it like this:
My father's grandfather, my great-grandfather, was a Union soldier from Iowa. He marched with Sherman, and my dad told me that when he was a kid, he and his brothers were told not mention the fact that he was with Sherman, because Sherman was so ruthless. So, it isn't really that far removed for me.
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Aslanspal Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:04 PM
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6. Bad interview
a no win all the way around ....she has not problem with having a confederate history month???? come on major compromise!
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:24 PM
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8. My family fought on both sides
of the Civil War, in Kansas and Missouri. My particular branch were unionists and abolitionists. The other side were slave owners and Confederates. My side moved to Montana after the war. In 1968 I was in the Army and went to Missouri to visit a girl friend before being shipped overseas. My grandmother asked me if I might look up some of her confederate kin who still lived there and with whom she had remained in touch since her youth. I obliged. The taxi let me out at a white clapboard house. An old man sat in a rocking chair on the porch. I was wearing my uniform. I walked up the stair and introduced myself. He said, "We've been expectin' ya. I see y'all are still fightin' for the Yankees." I said, "Yes sir. We are."
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 11:33 AM
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11. Jeff Davis?
How appropriate. What a doddering revisionist clown. And I'm sure it was no accident that they gave this assignment to the hot black chick. All this bullshit with Confederate History Month and the slavery issue...

You know, based on his logic maybe Germany should start having Nazi History Month. They could do it in March (the month they passed the Enabling Act) or August (The month Hindenburg died and Hitler assumed control of the government) After all, the German soldiers did fight very bravely, and they continued to do so even after early 1943 when it became clear that they couldn't win. If you omit any reference to the Holocaust or the ghettos or Kristalnacht and call it a crusade against communism (as many of today's revisionists already do) it all seems pretty noble...
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