Ron Paul dynamic at Southern Republican Leadership Conference

[Joanne98]

Run time: 03:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfNpRoCbY5E   Posted on YouTube: April 10, 2010 By YouTube Member: fshakir1 Views on YouTube: 309   Posted on DU: April 11, 2010 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 2932

 

They're booing each other. lol

[Voice for Peace]

1. k/r

I know a lot of people here hate Ron Paul & I'm not interested in debating anybody. But sometimes I just love the guy.

[elleng]

2. I usually like him,

and often love what he says, or just that he says it. (I don't understand anyone hating him!)

[liberation]

31. Yeah, why would anyone have an issue with a racist misogynistic maroon

of a doctor, who doesn't believe in evolution and wants to cut every single social program under our beautiful blue skies... while having lived off the public tit for the past 2 decades. Right?

[Lasher]

4. He's OK if you like hypocrites who would love to dismantle all our social services.

I find him difficult to love at any time.

[stopbush]

3. Nice to see Paul throwing a monkey wrench into their jerk-off fest,

but he's still an idiot.

[Taverner]

7. Agreed

Your summation is how I feel

[emulatorloo]

25. Yep, one of the biggest idiots out there.

Don't understand the DU fascination.

[liberation]

32. Many libertarians seem to have got lost at some point took the wrong turn and ended up in DU

I swear seeing some DU posters making Rand's views look milquetoast in comparison is rather fascinating (in a deeply scary sort of way)

[FarLeftFist]

5. F Ron Paul.

[tabatha]

6. I wonder how a conversation between him and Sarah Palin would go?

:rofl:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

8. This was great

but Ron Paul is a douchebag. I thought the Republican mouth breathers booing peace was a nice touch.

[athenasatanjesus]

9. USA USA USA USA!

It's nice to see a sophisticated crowd that seem to view politics with all the seriousness of an olympic soccer game.

[edw987]

10. I like him

Freedom is progressive.

[AtheistCrusader]

12. His position on abortion sucks, along with some of his conservative social policies

but it's hard to criticize him on his international/war policy.

As long as he's raising hell in their camp, good enough for me.

[Ranting_Wacko]

13. Ron Paul? Progressive? Don't make me laugh...

He's a racist lunatic who wants to drag us back into the 19th century with his gold-standard based economic policies.

I used to live in his district and the guy is a joke and a crook. He campaigns on being a deep believer in term limits yet is a career politician who refuses to live his own proposed standard. And at a time when his district was suffering the worst flooding in a decade, he was on Capitol Hill giving a conspiracy-theory driven speech about the evils of FEMA at a time when FEMA were the only ones doing a damn thing to help people in our area. Paul didn't show up until a few days later and gave a speech from a country club some five miles away from the nearest water line.

[protocol rv]

14. I didn't know US congressmen bailed water?

Sorry, I am not from the US, but isn't it a tad excessive to expect a US Congressman to bail water? Isn't that a local issue?

I did like this speech, agree with him completely, you guys waste too much money invading other countries. And your politicians seem to be too beholden and subservient to Israel. Don't you think it's pathetic US politicians have to pledge allegiance to Israel all the time?

[Ranting_Wacko]

21. A congressman is the lowest "local" position at the Federal level.

While it might not have been necessary for Paul to have shown up and start bailing as the rain was falling and people were losing their homes, it MIGHT have been nice for him to not actively try to cut funding for a federal organization that was provides disaster relief at a time when the people he (in theory) represents were losing everything they owned and drowning.

[protocol rv]

22. So there was flooding in the area in Texas where he comes from?

And they didn't have flood insurance?

[liberation]

33. What I think is pathetic is the whole act you're trying to play...

... your stripes are showing up.

LOL

[szatmar666]

27. Paul is a REgressive!

but I don't believe he is the evil genius you portray him. On the other hand I have nothing against a well run empire: if it's needed. Right now the US empire does what the British and the Spanish did for centuries: makes commerce safe and takes a generous tax income on other people's trade. As long as that's not excessive every nation is happy to pay the price of dollar denominated commodity markets because the US military makes sure that local powers don't take over shipping routes and resources.

Problem lately (for about 30 years since Vietnam) is that the US is run by a bunch of thugs and warlords that are becoming more and more criminal by the day. The solution to this is not the sudden dismantling of the empire but the transitioning to the rule of law and perhaps on the long run that could be international law with international military instead of an imperial military.

Of course Ron Paul would be the first to denounce the UN and any international law: he would go back to the stone age and revert world trade to a barter system until we all crawl back on trees.

[PinkFloyd]

11. Anyone remember CPAC?

And Ron Paul the libertarian won. Even the cons didn't really want to elect a con. I thought that was kinda funny.

[elleng]

18. I like your point, even the 'conservatives'

didn't really want to elect a conservative. Its not funny, I think, but says a lot about that group of cons, as in con-men; they are nothing like real conservatives. Haven't studied this, but I suspect Paul's a lot more like Goldwater than anything ELSE in the repug 'party.'

[Stumbler]

15. There's a reaon why I supported him..

Although Kucinich was my primary vote, there's still a reason why I supported Paul..

[elleng]

19. so what's the reason, Stumb?

Kuch and Paul, thats an interesting combo!

[emulatorloo]

26. To me, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are polar opposites. Paul is all "me me me"

DK is all about the American People.

DU is funny sometimes.

[elleng]

28. DU is ??? sometimes!

Don't see Paul as being about me me me, but thats just me, prolly!

[emulatorloo]

29. Libertarism generally is "me me me" Maybe he is the exception? or Maybe not.

"DU is ??? sometimes!"

Hilarious -- :toast:

[elleng]

30. Haven't done ANY studying on libertarianism, and I guess it is

as you say, theoretically anyway.

:toast:

[Lasher]

35. A libertarian is an anarchist with money.

A libertarian is the opposite of a populist. If you want to learn more about libertarians, this is a good place to start.

[elleng]

36. PERFECT, Lasher!

How you doing?

[Lasher]

38. OK thanks.

Getting into these beautiful springtime days. You?

[elleng]

42. Yes, here too.

[Lasher]

44. Just put you on my buddy list.

Cos U R cule.

Can't wait for football season. It's what life is all about.

[elleng]

45. NO! NCAA Basketball!

Remind me to check with daughter about wvu tickets for you, bud!

[Bucky]

41. If you ever do study libertarianism, try asking them about "social costs"

In economics there's a term for the general costs of doing business that no one is technically responsible for. It's the added cost of a business fixing its flat tires, which goes up when roads are bad and goes down when the government upkeeps the roads right. This cost applies to medical services, health services, pollution, building codes, and even the regulations needed for Wall Street. It's at the core of why we need government and libertarians, as a rule, like to pretend this doesn't exist.

[elleng]

43. So good to see/hear this here, Bucky.

We here need such education!

[DeSwiss]

16. K&R

[Hyper_Eye]

17. Boo Peace! Boo! Boo!

Yea war! Yea for men, women, and children dying needlessly! Yea for preemptive and unnecessary war! Doesn't this guy know what it means to be a modern conservative? He is supposed to only talk about how we are wasting money on social services, welfare, redistribution of wealth, the unconstitutional Obamacare, and useless stimulus bills. How dare he talk about defense spending as if it were wasteful! Defense spending is what the federal government is for!!!

Just in case because this is, afterall, DU... :sarcasm:

[theFrankFactor]

20. This Guy is Progressive Poison

A Libertarian for fuck's sake!

[underpants]

23. "We can do better with peace than with war!".....BOO!!

they boo-ed peace

[bulloney]

24. I would like to know how many of those 'boo-birds' in the audience served in the military.

Based on the people they idolize (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc), probably none.

[LaPera]

34. Ron Paul is a fucking republican, and votes republican and supports REPUBLICANS!!

Get fucking real with the lame-brain moronic semantics!

[pepperbear]

37. one more MF-ing time for the MF-ing cheap seats....

PAUL WANTS TO PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING!

[TrollBuster9090]

39. There is a libertarian fault line in the GOP that deserves a sledge hammer.

The Cato Institute determined that libertarians usually do not support their own party, and instead vote for either the Republican or Democratic party at a ratio of 3:1. The 2008 election was the only election where they split 50:50, and you saw what happened when they failed to support the GOP in their usual numbers.

The attitude towards Israel and the American Empire is an obvious fault line in the Republican party, as this video demonstrates.

How it plays out in 2010 is obvious. Republicans, as usual, will pretend to be libertarians when they're talking to a libertarian audience, and "conservatives" when they're talking to a conservative audience, and win big on it as usual. What happens in 2012, however, is a different story. There are two possible scenarios:

1. Paul runs for the GOP nomination and the usual Republican machine will work against him. Fox New excludes him from the debates again, angry Ron Robots chase Hannity down the street with signs again, and the Republican party is split again, like it was in 2008.

2. Paul takes a backroom deal to stay away from the Republican leadership contest in exchange for the winning candidate giving him the VP slot, and the Republicans get to have it both ways.

[Bucky]

40. He really sticks to his values. But he's a darker person than his liberal admirers would like.

There's an unfortunate racist strain that has run through many of his off the cuff comments in the past. But he's no jingoist and he thinks things through logically in light of his privileged, 19th Century ideology. As a result, he's no shill for corporate interests. I admire his independence, but there's a dark underbelly to this man. I don't think I'd enjoy talking to him at a cocktail party.