Dennis Kucinich: 'I Am Mainstream' MSNBC - Aug. 7, 2007

[Hissyspit]

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[whistle]

8. Interesting, but this has nothing directly to do with Dennis Kucinich's message

....unless I missed something. :shrug:

[Deep13]

2. Parma, OH is not exactly Haight-Ashbury or Berkley.

The suburb of Cleveland is as average as one can get. I can't watch the movie from here, but I don't find Kucinich to be much of a radical. It only seems that way because the other candidates are so cautious (some would say spineless.)

[YOY]

10. Parma actually has a pretty bad reputation (although it's changing I heard)

of being pretty racist.

Meh, I went to H.S. there and I recall some pretty WT outlooks from many classmates. I remember we had one black student our sophmore year. A fellow classmate called her some nasty names. I always regretted not calling him out on it... She left our school within a few months.

[Deep13]

11. Regrettably, that reputation is pretty well founded.

It is a pocket of white next door to a majority Black city.

[YOY]

12. Some of the violence that has happened over the past few years hasn't helped

Like the woman who was raped and killed going out to her van at Parmatown mall a few years ago. The Mary Jo Pesho case. I remember a bunch of people talking that it had to be a black kid who did it. Turned out to be a white (Italian American like me no less) guy...just shows the mentality.

[kenfrequed]

13. Well now

This really isn't a fair characterization. I really doubt the racist elements of that area would vote for a liberal, peace-nick, "pinko" like Kucinich. I don't think I approve of this kind of brushstroke.

Racism can be found anywhere. Sadly.

[Deep13]

14. Not all liberal interests are especially enlightened.

Blue collar and union workers who are the backbone of DK's constituency are not necessarily liberal on other things. Please DK has excellent name recognition among all groups from when he was mayor of Cleveland.

[kenfrequed]

18. Now wait a minute!

Many of the candidates in the democratic field have a backbone of labor interests (save possibly the DLC-free trade crowd). I don't think I have to point out that Labor has long been an ally of the democratic party.

In seeming to jab Kucinich with this nonsense you have also managed to give a slap in the face to organized labor, treating them as if they were the selfsame hardhats of the sixties. Are you aware of the make up of modern organized blue collar labor? It certainly bears little resemblence to the so-called 'blue collar comedians' that grace Comedy Central.

Am I to imagine only the management class and the white collars are somehow enlightened enough to be free of such racism? Of course! This would explain why white collar jobs are so evenly distributed amongst various ethnicities. Give me a break.

Rather than taking weird angled and improbable strikes at Kucinich, why not actually try to come up with an issue where Hillary fares better than Kucinich.

Good luck with that.

[depakid]

25. "Labor has long been an ally of the democratic party."

And they've repeatedly been taken for granted and betrayed by a good 1/3 of the party- particularly the corporatist Clinton wing.

[kenfrequed]

30. I agree

Absolutely.

[postulater]

20. sorry but what is WT?

[YOY]

33. WT='White Trash'

Regardless of income level or actual ethnic composition (other than generally European descent), generally ignorant racist knuckledraggers who blame all of their problems on someone else: liberals, Jews, Democrats, blacks, hispanics as well as revel in low culture and are generally anti-education... There is a commonly associated with the word 'poor' but there are indeed 'Wealthy White Trash' (e.g. Brittany Spears.) The British version are often refered to as 'chavs' but that intones a different lifestyle as well.

I suppose many FReeps would fit in this category but not all.

[Beelzebud]

3. Dennis Kucinich - One of the last national Democrats worth voting for.

[subsuelo]

29. hard to disagree

[mikelgb]

4. well said on all points

especially the self-fulfilling-prophecy media...

[rabidchickens]

5. Dennis is great

I might even through him a primary vote (im in NYC, which is going hillary), too bad he doesnt have much of a chance.

Edwards or Obama will have to do

[rucognizant]

32. rabidchickens

"too bad he doesn't have a chance" ???????
"The Secret" was BIG a while ago. If you bought the book or video, you could improve your situation by employing it's techniques. It works by the law of attractions, therefore if you write down/think positive; you can alter the course of your life. ( It is harder than one would think to banish negative thoughts from your mind; we have all aquired negative tapes from our childhood experiences.)
And the motives have to be pure! The attack on Iraq did NOT change the reality on the ground, as advertised & promised, because the intent was evil! The neocons, despite their strutting hubris failed!
It worked quite well for me as a single Mother/Artist, with the motivation to do the best for my kids! It empowered me, gave me confidence, enabled me to frame the right words............Magically another free lance job would come my way when needed!
I admit, it's a lot harder in today's society! There's a lot of cognative disonant debris to steer around,.........Equate that to listening to the radio when weather conditions cause a lot of static! However; It STILL works!
If every one of us; would rid our minds of the uncertainties, negative thoughts about Dennis' candidacy and EXPECT HIM TO WIN! Vote for him in the primary..............and if he isn't chosen as the Dem candidate who runs...........................write him in on the ballot, on election day. He WILL WIN. Because his motives are pure and he is the best thing for this country!
He has worked hard and devotedly, never straying from the correct path for many years.............NOT for the prize! but for the Common Good!
HE is the quintessential latter day Abe Lincoln: homely, lived in a car ( not cabin) brilliant and compelling! ANd wouldn't it be a treat to have the lovely Elizabeth as the First Lady?

[rabidchickens]

38. The Secret is bullshit

Posistive energy doesnt change anything, actions change things, not thoughts

[Dhalgren]

6. Every time I hear Congressman Kucinich speak, I become more

convinced that he is the only hope for this country. We simply cannot sustain, as a nation, another 4 or 8 years of "business as usual". Dennis is the only candidate, regardless of party, who is ready for change - out of the gate. All of the other candidates are just more of the same old politics that got us into the shape and position we are in today. We must have change, we have to turn things around, make things different - Kucinich is the one we need, the one we must have. I just wish that for once, Americans could just come together, let the blood flow back into their brains, and vote intelligently, just for once. Then Kucinich would win and we could start to regain our country. Kucinich is a long shot, no doubt about it, but this one, lone, long shot is all we have left...

[whistle]

7. Dennis Kucinich is great, I don't have a lot of cash to give Dem candidates

...but Dennis's campaign gets a fiver from me this month to help him keep delivering his message:applause:

[penguin7]

9. Dennis at his best!

[dkofos]

15. Dk is the only candidate I will support, because he is the only who

wants to make America the great country it should have been.

[lovuian]

16. Love Dennis

:woohoo:

[Ian_rd]

17. Wait minute ... he's a politician and he actually states real opinions clearly and proudly?

Repeat after me:

DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS! DennIS!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[slipslidingaway]

19. Thank you! n/t

[Divine Discontent]

21. very VERY enjoyable interview...

if Edwards was not in the race, I believe Dennis would be my fave, he's that good of a man!

[Madrone]

22. I love that man.

Listening to him brings tears to my eyes ... he keeps speaking the truth and saying what needs to be heard, and few are willing to listen. I find that unbelievably frustrating.

[GMFORD]

23. That's it, I'm sending $100.00

I can ill afford to Kucinich tonight. The country would be a much better place with a man like this in the White House.

[go west young man]

24. Greatr interview by Dennis Kucinich.

The only real Dem thats running for President with a spine and a heart. The media may make the other candidates but dennis doesn't need to be made. He's a complete fully aware individual.

[cosmicdot]

26. knr

[bonito]

27. K&R for Dennis!

[The Sushi Bandit]

28. K&R

Dennis is the only choice!

[urgk]

31. I just followed the OP link to this...

It's an interview with Ann Curry. And by "interview" I mean a way for Curry to openly attack Kucinich for having the wherewithal to avoid her verbal traps. He did a beautiful job, though. The whole thing gave me more respect for Kucinich and made me wonder whether a write-in campaign for an MSNBC debate between right-leaning Curry and truth-leaning Olbermann might be in order. He'd wipe the stage with her, MSNBC would get a ratings boost and I'd watch it on TiVO until the hard drive gives out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgreLLMbbZk

[slipslidingaway]

34. Welcome to DU and thanks for this link, I took the liberty of

posting the video in it's own thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x46034

[rabies1]

35. Why don't they give this fantastic man more time?

He consistently has given the best answers to questions.
I think he could win by getting more time and attention.

[go west young man]

36. You probably already know this..

but they don't give him more time because "they" (the corporate media) don't want him to win. He could truly make America great but the almighty dollar rules the country.

[rabies1]

37. All the more reason to push him to the front.

I fear that this is a beauty contest and it is too important to be based on that. We have to take charge here, WE do. WE have to put a stop to the big corporations and do something about health care and global warming. We can't waste anymore time by choosing someone on looks alone.