Anderson Cooper SLAMS 'Birther' Army Officer For Hiding Behind His Lawyer During Interview

[Tx4obama]

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Anderson Cooper: Army Lt Col Birther Explains Why He Will Not Deploy Due to Obama Birth Certificate

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Pitiful, just pitiful and pathetic. If I were in the military, I would find this humiliating,

disgusting and treasonous.

I am not in the military, and I already feel that way.

This ignorant asshole is an embarrassment to the entire military.

[Ishoutandscream2]

2. Cooper did a very good job here

I'm a bit shocked and awed!

[Capitalocracy]

8. It surprised me too nt

[Cronus Protagonist]

22. Cooper actually seemed like a real journalist there!

I hope we see more of this.

[Historic NY]

42. me too, the lawyer was aPutz too.

[Bitwit1234]

3. Cooper asked one pertinent question

AND did not get a straight answer from the lawyer or the client. The one about all soldiers born in Hawaii. Are they really citizens because Hawaii provides a certificate of live birth instead of a birth certificate. IF HAWAII DOESN'T PROVIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE BUT A CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH, WHICH OBAMA HAS SUPPLIED, WHAT ELSE DO THEY WANT HIM TO SHOW.

This is something I can't understand.

[Kookaburra]

5. You don't understand it because you are using reason,

and birthers don't use reason -- whether they won't or can't, I don't know -- and so you will never understand them. Probably better if you don't, or you could end up just like them, and that would be a nightmare.

[tavalon]

50. And let's be honest here

The problem is that Obama is black. They are using this as a smoke screen. They know damn well this is the same sort of birth certificate released by all states (I was just looking at my son's tonight - it's identical even though it's from Texas). He's being Hawaiian while black. And worst of all, he's occupying the White House. Racism is raising it's ugly head, well that and hatred of all things Democratic. If it isn't the Clenis, it's the black.

[lumpy]

32. They want all the personal birth details, looking for something

to hang on Obama.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

55. It doesn't matter what he shows

The birthers will never. Ever. Under any circumstances accept the legitimacy of this presidency. Nothing short of God going on live TV and confirming that Obama is an American citizen would convince even a few of them. (The rest would most likely deny that that was actually God on TV)

The birthers are just the most lunatic faction of the Republican Bizarro cult, which will never accept any Democratic president as legitimate, or not having stolen an election. (I know- the irony of that is not lost on me either)

[BootinUp]

4. Anderson ripped them to shreds

I love the way he kept shutting the lawyer down. Can't wait for the verdict.

[Submariner]

6. African Americans should think twice about being a patient

of racist cracker doctors like this ex-Army doctor whiny ahole. I would not imagine they would get the same quality treatment an aryan brother would get.

[demosincebirth]

7. His hate will cool off after spending a few years in Leavenworth.

[Iliyah]

9. SOOOOOOOOOOOO

all the people who were born in Hawaii around the same time as Pres O are not American citizens? And Hawaii is actually not part of the United States?

They have no country or is Hawaii a country all by itself?

[monmouth]

14. Welllll, I heard Cokie Roberts say it was .... ah...very elite...LOL...I like elite...n/t

[demosincebirth]

16. Trying to argue with his ilk, you will find yourself pounding your head against the wall!

[PSzymeczek]

35. News to my brother-in-law,

who was born in Hawai'i the same year.

[tavalon]

51. Whites and native Hawaiians are fine, it's the black ones who are suspect,

especially the ones who are as uppity as Obama.

:sarcasm:

[WhoIsNumberNone]

56. Only blacks who want to be president

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

10. Frankly

I don't see why the media gives this guy any time at all. When I was a kid, say in the supermarket with my mom, I'd see National Enquirer say, with the lunatic headlines. Mon would say 'that's a junk newspaper. Don't pay it any mind'
That's what we should do with this guy. It's a non-story really, I'm sure the military will deal with him.............

[SargeUNN]

11. Was I really born in Louisiana? Listening to the lawyer, I guess not

I was adopted at the age of two. I was alledgedly born in New Orleans but listening to this lawyer, since my birth certificate was altered due to adoption it makes me wonder if my birth certificate could be called into question. Oh horrors, I live in Arizona and if I get checked out for citizenship questions (I am blonde haired, blue eyed, and light skinned but someone Arpaio is aware of) will the fact my birth certificate being altered make it unoffical? Screw this guy.

[jemelanson]

12. Hmmmm? Wonder what this guy is going to do with his life after

his Dishonorable Discharge from the Army? Wonder if his license to Practice Medicine will be revoked? It really should be. I wonder if all of his accrued benefits and awards/medals won will be canceled out with that Dishonorable Discharge? What other penalty comes with failing to carry out an Order in the time of war? Failing to Deploy during the time of War? This guy has royally screwed himself. That is just my opinion.

[tavalon]

52. Actually, he could be cooling his heels in prison

[matt819]

13. I'd like to see this doctor's diplomas

With judgment skills this poor, one can't help but wonder if he is who he says he is. Can you imagine seeing a doctor with such poor judgment. Does he have the capacity to understand medical texts and journals? If he can't understand the issues concerning birth certificate and certificate of live birth, then I have to question his ability to discern the fine points of medical treatment. Which brings me back to my curiosity - is this guy really a doctor?

[Tx4obama]

15. I found his education and medical training listed on the link below

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/who-is-ltc-terry-lakin.html
Looks like the Army paid for most of his medical training!
If he is found guilty in his Court Marshall then he should pay us back!

[matt819]

54. I challenge you to find his education buried in those documents

It looks like he has a D.O. - doctor of osteopathy - from University of Health Sciences - College of Osteopathic Medicine.

Where/what is the University of Health Sciences? It sounds pretty vague, though I found one - http://www.stateuniversity.com/universities/MO/The_University_of_Health_Sciences_College_of_Osteopathic_Medicine.html. Is that the one? I don't know.

Also, I've always wondered, but never really looked up, the difference between and MD and DO. I always had the sense that the DO was MD lite.

Yeah, I know it's sacrilege to be critical of active duty military or veterans (subject of another post I'd like to write), but I just get the feeling that a more detailed investigation into this guy's resume would turn up holes.

[Radical Activist]

17. How many times did CNN interview soldiers who refused to deploy to Iraq

because it was an unjust war of aggression? I rarely watch since corporate news is a wasteland of crap, but I doubt they featured many.

[leftynyc]

18. Actual journalism

I had almost forgotten what it looked like.

[Hokie]

19. Jensen said this could all be over if Obama would show his BC

Actually no. Lakin is on trial for missing a movement. The President's birth certificate has nothing to do with that. Jensen speaks as if this were a civil trial. However, his client is up on the military equivalent of serious criminal charges that will likely land him in prison. This interview convinced me that Lakin is even more of a pathetic moron than I thought he was.

[peacetalksforall]

20. It would be so great if someone in the family had saved all 'those old boxes

of bills and stuff' ...... so the other side could come to courtroom with the hospital bill and copy of the check, including bills and checks for the local grocery store and pharmacy and a baby bed and diapers and littel clothes and toys. All Hawaii store purchases right up to the day of birth and right after. Let's say they saved it, but copied it on microfiche to save space. These birthers would say the fiche was faked.

See, don't throw anything away.

Seriously - why did the lawyer keep saying 'release' in such an emphatic way.

They want his copy - why. They wouldn't be satisfied just looking at it - they would want to take it and pay for tests on it. Right? What do they suspect about his copy?

How can they not believe the State of Hawaii representatives?

Not even Ronald Reagan could get these people to see logic.

[peacetalksforall]

21. I just hope that the people who hate him so much are far out numbered

by people who don't.

Racism - pure and simple. See it hear - all on video.

[Guilded Lilly]

25. Agreed...racism.

The depth to which racists will go to blame everything else that they can come up with to discredit our President, no matter how ridiculous and pathetic the *reasons* are, is a very sad and dangerous example of how deep seeded the fear so many of these people have for African Americans and non-whites.

Bellicose insecurity. How intensely dimwitted they all look.

[NOLALady]

39. True that.

I still haven't figured out the reason for their "fear".

[The Wizard]

23. He's just avoiding his military obligation

in a word, punk.
He needs to get a blindfold and cigarette.

[Guilded Lilly]

24. Saw this live...

part of me was cheering on Anderson (he's always been a favorite and this kind of news reporting is what origianlly made me a fan of his) and really having my stomach turned by the pathetic responses and behavior of that ridiculous lawyer. Even worse was the image of this impotent soldier hiding behind a legal blowhard.

The bigger problem is that these genuine asshole lawyers believe their own bullshit.

[doc03]

26. Something confuses me about this. Does the state of

Hawaii issue a birth certificate? (Yes or No) The lawyer wants to see the birth certificate. From what I heard Cooper say is one (exists) and they issued this certificate of live birth after viewing his birth certificate. Does Hawaii have birth certificates? (yes or no) Do they actually have one for Obama then? (yes or no) If they do why not show it then? I don't doubt Obama was born there but if they do actually issue birth certificates why don't they just show it instead this certificate of live birth, case closed. If Hawaii does issue them and for some reason they won't show it they do have a point don't they?

[Vasmosn]

28. Hawaii...

...probably like other states has two forms. A certificate of live birth is what it issues. The long form is what it keeps on record. This is probably no different from any other state. It doesn't RELEASE the long form because it's against the law. Only people who have a vested interest in it are allowed to have it. Sure, Obama could get it if he wanted to but no one else can and why would he? At the very least it has become an irresistible lure to so many otherwise undercover racists, drawing them out into the open while all the while they think they are hiding behind a "constitutional" issue. And, at this point, if he did release it, does anyone really think it would do any good? I can hear it now: "Oh, he had just enough time to change it. That's not the real one, etc...." I wish Cooper had pointed out the fact that Hawaii, legally cannot release that information. I also wish he'd asked him if he'd asked for Bush, Clinton, or other Bush's certificates.

[doc03]

30. I remember about 35 years ago when my dad retired

my mother needed her birth certificate. She wrote to several counties in WV and they had no record, she ended up getting one from the state capital in Charleston. If it exists produce the thing and shut these nuts off. The question is does Hawaii have birth certificates (yes or no)? If they don't and the official record is the certificate of live birth case should be closed. If they do have a birth certificate produce it case closed. There is a certain segment of the American people who doubt his place of birth, I would say that is a vested interest to release it. Why all this secrecy stuff, it just adds fuel to the fire doesn't it?

[lumpy]

33. They only reason they 'doubt' his US birth is because they want

to continue stirring their rats nest by keeping this ridiculous ploy afloat. This is just a program to continue injecting doubt into the misguided heads of some people who have an axe to grind about Obama. There are some details in hospital birth records that are personal and confidential and should not be available to the general public.
Presenting them also would open a door for many people being questioned regarding their citizenship; a convenient political tool to say the least.

[doc03]

36. I have my birth certificate, it has my name, place, date and

time of birth, my parents names, place and date of birth and their address at the time. It is signed by the head nurse and the attending physician. That's it no information that I would want to hide from the general public if I was running for an office. If they have a birth certificate release it and put it to rest. Remember when we were questioning W's military record and they wouldn't release it? What goes around comes around.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

44. I have a good friend who is in charge of my county's vital statistics bureau.

Every now and then, I need a copy of my B/C. Being a poor record keeper and too lazy to look through my own files, I call my buddy up when I need the b/c and he hand delivers a couple copies to me over a beer at the local pub.

Up until a few years ago, he would bring me a stamped/sealed copy of the original certificate listing mother's maiden name, my birth weight etc. etc...... NOW, when I ask for a B/C, I get a computer generated stamped/sealed "Certificate of Live Birth" - very similar to our President's.

My buddy tells me they save a lot of time and money not having to pay a clerk to search stacks of records to make copies. It's all about streamlining.

This is 2010 - microfiche is out, computer files are in. Why should the President jump through hoops for the lunatic fringe?

Your Bush National Guard analogy makes no sense. Bush was caught in several lies. Where's the lie in B.O.'s status as a citizen?

[BootinUp]

34. What makes you think the nutjobs

won't come up with another "serious issue" to attack Obama with? This is what many warned about during the primaries, there is no end to it with them. Besides all that, the State of Hawaii has validated it. End of story.

[Guilded Lilly]

38. It has been produced, it has been seen, it has been provided.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

What it never will be..is accepted by persistant and belligerant conservatives, scared looney tunes and many racists living in permanent denial that the man elected President is actually President.

Frankly, if they can't handle the truth, then let them go off in their little, shallow, narrow boxed mind and complain for the rest of their lives. To them the case will never be closed because they don't WANT to believe it. They will accept NOTHING.

Other than the fact that Cooper made them both look ridiculous, they should never be given air time anymore.

[doc03]

40. That convinces me n/t

[NOLALady]

37. If they didn't expect a birth

certificate from any other President, they do not have a point IMHO.

[tavalon]

53. Yep, it looks just like my kid's

Oh, shit, I may have an illegal living in my house, mooching off of my paycheck!

[RollWithIt]

27. It is VERY clear that this guy is just in WAY over his head.... he allowed himself to be used....

And he has no clue what he's actually talking about.

[husky92]

29. Enough With This Crap

When will this shit end!!!

These knuckleheads need to go off to some deserted island somewhere and take all the lunatics with them once and for all. Then they can sit around and talk about all the ills Obama has brought on this country.

I am simply amazed we have so many dumb asses in this country that keep bringing this up day after day and the media keeps giving them a forum to spread their lunacy. If its not that bimbo with bleached blond hair opening her mouth its people like this. I have two words for all of them -- SHUT UP!!! This has gone on for two+ years now and it never ends. I wish Obama would come out and say..."Folks, I'm sorry, but I was born in Indonesia!" I would love to see the reaction from these morons. It would be worth it. As I've said to many people, George W. Bush was born here and look what the hell his presidency was like!

Hey birthers, give it up and get back to doing something more important than worrying about this.

[lumpy]

31. Some people will do anything to get out of service. The fool

should look around for a different lawyer also, he doesn't have a good argument.

[Jefferson23]

41. I don't believe I have ever seen Cooper more on top of his game, kudos.

As far as the piece of shit Lt.Col, anything he may have done prior that was honorable, will now forever be

tainted by this hideous venture.

Take a look at the legal analysis given here in a report by Fox News, the legal mess this man faces is intense.



snip* But others say Lakin's novel approach is doomed to fail, and legal experts say he apparently made his decision to proceed to a court-martial without the advice of experienced counsel.

One military attorney said Lakin had advice from a lawyer, Paul Rolf Jensen, but that Jensen had “only three months' experience in military law as a clerk in the 1980s” and was not an expert in military law. Jensen did not return a phone call seeking comment, but military experts called Lakin's effort a tragedy and waste.

“He is likely to lose everything and accomplish nothing,” one attorney lamented. “No military judge will say that (obtaining documents) of the president is necessary to prove the charges,” said Philip D. Cave, a Washington attorney and director of the National Institute of Military Justice.

Cave said that the validity of Lakin's orders, under military law, does not depend on the president but on the chain of command. “He will be convicted and is in jeopardy of dismissal,” he said.

Dismissal, for a military officer, is the same as a dishonorable discharge for an enlisted servicemember.

“We all feel saddened,” said David Price, a former captain and 25-year veteran of the Navy Judge Advocate General’s office, now in private practice.

“He was issued an order to deploy and didn’t. End of issue,” he said. He said the military has dealt with these types of cases since Vietnam, when soldiers tried to make larger political issues the basis of their trials, and is experienced at keeping the proceedings free of politics.

Price also said that if the case does finally get to a general court-martial and a judge is asked to approve discovery requests by the defense, it is unlikely that it would be allowed to encompass the presidency. He said this wasn’t because of a conspiracy, but because the case is relatively simple and doesn’t require it.

Gary Myers, a former military lawyer who now heads a Washington firm specializing in military law, says he "just shook my head" when he heard about the case “I think is out of his mind” for thinking he could challenge the president this way, he said.

“It is grandstanding.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/23/birther-army-doctor-court-martial-yield-new-document/?test=latestnews

[Politicalboi]

43. If only Lankin were

GAYYYYYYY! It would be over tomorrow. LOL!

[ljm2002]

45. Anderson Cooper did great!

And both those men looked like total fools: the Colonel looked like a fool because he only responded briefly to a couple of questions, while the lawyer looked like a fool and a prick because he insisted on answering for his client and interrupting Anderson every single time he spoke.

I don't think anyone (except other birthers) watching would come away with a good impression of either of these birther idiots.

[Jack Rabbit]

46. The basis of all Birther logic and reason

[Carnage251]

47. PWNT

[Turborama]

48. K&Rec #4

This thread should have made it to the greatest hours ago.

[urotsukidoji]

49. Racism, playing fancy-dress-up as "Constitutional concern"

Please...can we stop pretending that this isn't racism? Did they demand Bush's birth certificate? Reagan's? Even McCain's? (McCain was born in Panama, for f*ck's sake).


I have my birth certificate right here....it says "Certificate of Live Birth". I mean, seriously...if you're going to go after the guy, go after him on the grounds of the myriad promise reversals since his campaign. Go after him on his continuance of illegitimate, illegal murderous wars. Go after him on his awful pitching arm. Anything, but spare us the stupidity of attacking him about his place-of-birth.