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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:04 AM
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Stu Bykofsky - We Need Another 9/11 To Save America
 
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:32 AM
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1. Stu doesn't realize: most Americans are terrified by this Administration.
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 08:32 AM by Perry Logan
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subsuelo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:46 AM
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3. is it because Americans know
this administration can and is willing to let another 911 happen again?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:37 AM
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2. I never thought I would see nostalgia for 9/11.
Remember how the country was so united? Remember how everyone was so patriotic and loved our President? Oh, those were the good old days.



Disgusting.


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:57 AM
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4. Who's America are they trying to save?
bu$h's Amerika is doing quite well but the America we all once knew and loved is on her deathbed.
These fuckers are just plain stupid and dangerous.
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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:04 AM
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5. *Action Alert*
From my blog post on this today:


It wasn't enough that Stu Bykofsky, in his Philly Inquirer column of 8-9-07, he makes the outrageous statement that the US needs another 9-11, Fox news gives him a forum to continue to insult the American public with such hurtful commentary with the anniversary of 9-11 just a month away. From the column:

"If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail."

Nevermind the fact that 9-11 had nothing to do with Iraq, thousands of us should just die violent deaths so that Bykofsky can 'rage'-- presumably -- with the people left behind, without people throwing inconvenient truths in his way.

He bemoans in his appearance the calls for his termination from the paper, and boldly claims his editor won't fire him. Perhaps we need to keep insisting that we don't need cheerleaders for violent death of innocent people writing columns in our newspapers.

The Philadelphia Inquirer
Mailing address:
P.O. Box 8263
Philadelphia, Pa. 19101
Phone: 215-854-2000
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:31 AM
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13. Bykofsky's "righteous rage" = the PNAC agenda.
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 11:33 AM by Seabiscuit
First Iraq, then Iran, then Syria, then... you know the ritual.

This moran dreams that another 9-11 will get the American public to lend another 80% to a Bush invasion of Iran???

Friggin' nutcase.

Only the shameless stooges at FOX Noise could give this blithering idiot airtime.
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:39 PM
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24. ...


This "moran" dreams that another 9-11 will get the American public to lend another 80% to a Bush invasion of Iran???


Sorry, I had to do it...

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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:56 PM
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27. Who is this Morans person and why does he need a brain?
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 12:59 PM by jhrobbins
;)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:36 AM
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6. Typical FOX News interview backs right off when the journalist Stu Bykofsky
...began talking about the Iraq War and the Bush Administration's total mismanagement and failures in that war as one of the main reasons for why the country is divided. Having pointed that out, there on live cable news ( with 9 second delay just in case a guest gets out of control) this guest Stu Bykofsky showed he is a coward and lied. He said the syndicated headline for his piece from August 9 2007 was the one which carried the word "Need" and that was not what was actually published in the Philadelphia Daily News where his column appeared first. Well here is the article in full as printed by his paper and you be the judge of what this columnist Stu Bykofsky advocates:

<snip>
Thursday Aug. 09, 2007
To save America, we need another 9/11
by Stu Bykofsky


ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America.

What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?

A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.

It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.

Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.

Most Americans today believe Iraq was a mistake. Why?

Not because Americans are "anti-war."

Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don't have the patience for a long slog. We've been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.

That's not the American way.

In Iraq, we don't believe our military is being beaten on the battleground. It's more that there is no formal "battleground." There is the drip of daily casualties and victory is not around the corner. Americans are impatient. We like fast food and fast war.

Americans loved the 1991 Gulf War. It raged for just 100 hours when George H.W. Bush ended it with a declaration of victory. He sent a half-million troops into harm's way and we suffered fewer than 300 deaths.

America likes wars shorter than the World Series.

Bush I did everything right, Bush II did everything wrong - but he did it with the backing of Congress.

Because the war has been a botch so far, Democrats and Republicans are attacking one another, when they aren't attacking themselves. The dialog of discord echoes across America.

Turn back to 9/11.

Remember the community of outrage and national resolve? America had not been so united since the first Day of Infamy - 12/7/41.

We knew who the enemy was then.

We knew who the enemy was shortly after 9/11.

Because we have mislaid 9/11, we have endless sideshow squabbles about whether the surge is working, if we are "safer" now, whether the FBI should listen in on foreign phone calls, whether cops should detain odd-acting "flying imams," whether those plotting alleged attacks on Fort Dix or Kennedy airport are serious threats or amateur bumblers. We bicker over the trees while the forest is ablaze.

America's fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.

What would sew us back together?

Another 9/11 attack.

The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The U.S. is a target-rich environment for al Qaeda.


Is there any doubt they are planning to hit us again?

If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.

The unity brought by such an attack sadly won't last forever.

The first 9/11 proved that. *

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/stu_bykofsky/20070809_Stu_Bykofsky___To_save_America__we_need_another_9_11.html

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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 09:38 AM
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7. John Gibson is helping to lay the groundwork for the next MIHOP
n/t
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:03 AM
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8. All part of the "fear factor" faux news networks plan to help make dumb
asses afraid so Faux can buy more time for their corrupt cronies in power. Pathetic.
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kevinore Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:34 AM
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9. Seems to me
these guys kept talking about how the left loved 9/11. Four about three years after the fact gop pundits kept claiming the left liked 9/11. I guess this has come full circle.

I also seems to me that the US pulled together to get the guys who did this. After 6 years of waiting, we are no closer.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 05:19 PM
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20. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:48 AM
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10. Unite???
What astounds me is these people thinking a SECOND catastrophic failure by these people would UNITE the country "over to their side"... especially after all that has been expended (lives/money) on their assurances that what they are doing is "making us "safer".

Astounding. :wow:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 10:53 AM
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11. One 9/11 was too many n/t
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:18 AM
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12. john gibson needs '5 in the noggin'
the other mediawhore needs a good kick in the arse too, but, hey, it's america, and americans only kill kids and their peasant farmer daddy/brothers etc
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:38 AM
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14. Geez, just when you think every whack job has come out
of the closet, another one emerges!!! Yet another pimple on the complexion of America, coming to the surface. I often wonder where have these weirdos been all these years - lurking in the shadows, waiting for the right moment to claim their fifteen minutes of fame? Guess its better to have them out in the open than growing and festering in dark obscurity.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 12:50 PM
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15. half assed
What a half assed solution!

What would really unite all of us is fucking WORLD WAR THREE!

Nuthin gives a country a sense of shared sacrifice like a good old balls to the wall world war!

-85% Jimmy
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tactics Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 01:16 PM
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16. 3000 more dead?
if you truly cared about america, how about you(bykovsky) commiting the atrocious attack yourself. oh wait tim mcveigh already did that, he claimed his act was for america and for freedom. those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither, but you (bykovsky) would sacrifice innocent? for an agenda? this person is supposedly educated. i am a combat infantryman and i may not agree with what people say, but i defend to the death the right to say it, but this is madness. this is inciting violence.
what is wrong with these people? where is their morality? actually, america would more be saved if we took every person who felt like that and incinerated them, so we can get to true, honest, spirited debate and move foward towards a free society.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 05:19 PM
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19. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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Wink Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 03:56 PM
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17. This is what I wrote his editor
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 04:05 PM by Wink
So, Mr. Bykofsky, let's just say we are once again attacked, are we going to go after those who did it this time or are we just going to blame Iraq again? Or will this administration just use that as their excuse for going into Iran?

Frankly, it's people like yourself, who perpetuate the lies of the Bush administration, who are most responsible for the slaughter house we call the Iraq War. And your article about us needing to be struck again is yet another step in the process that enables Bush to wage more war. You don't have to be psychic or especially smart to know we will be attacked again. It's inevitable. It's a shame that you would use this inevitability as a justification for backing Bush's failed policies when you could and should be using this as a reason for people to unite and denounce them. The fact that we haven't been attacked recently (inside the U.S. proper) isn't a proof positive indicator that Bush's policies are working. Remember that Al Qeida hadn't attacked us for 8 years after the 1st WTC attack and I'm relatively sure Bush's policies didn't go back in time to make that happen. In fact, as the pentagon has acknowledged, his policies are turning out to be a great recruiting tool for more terrorists and his war is providing a fertile training ground for future attacks on our country. Despite this fact I see that you will be using any future attack as validation that the Iraq war is justified. How convenient. Much like a shamun using rudimentary knowledge of astronomy as proof of his mystical powers.

Another item from your article distrubs me. You say that congress backed Bush's decision to go to war. What you (and just about every other commentator) fail to mention is that what little evidence Bush provided congress, to prove his case for war in Iraq, was tainted, slanted, and incomplete. It had been vetted of intelligence that was contradictory to the goals of the neocons who pushed for this war. The fix was and is still in. Bush continues to stonewall congress on providing key pre-war intelligence that Bush, and only Bush, received concerning Iraq. It's hardly fair to continue blaming congess when evidence to the contrary was intentionally withheld from them.

You say that we are "bickering" and "squabbling" over the wrong things. And your solution is to fall in line with an administration that has consistently lied, mislead, and mishandled everything they've touched? We are supposed to trust someone who; politicizes every facet of gov't (U.S. Attorney firings, caging), hides everything they do (Cheney's energy meetings, illegal wiretapping, U.S. Attorney firings,), promotes illegal activity (Libby's perjury and obstruction, contempt for congress, intelligence leaks, illegal wire tapping, torture, kidnapping, Cheney's refusal to abide by intelligence handling audit laws), and generally lies on a daily basis to the American public ( "I'll take care of who ever leaked intelligence"). These aren't minor subjects of debate qualifying of the title "bickering". These are important issues that you, as a member of the press, should be bringing to the forefront as prime evidence of why Bush and Cheney must be impeached.

If you want unity so badly why don't you join the majority of the American public in denouncing the criminal activities of George W. Bush? Perhaps then our country could concentrate on tracking down those people who attacked us instead of hoping that future attacks divert Americans into the camp of an incompetent fool.

Paul Winkemann
Romeoville IL


P.S. Isn't e-mail great? You can quickly scan messages, determine that it doesn't coincide with your ideas, and then easily delete them without reading them. Which you've probably already done.
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EnricoFermi Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 04:20 PM
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18. THEY need another 9/11 to complete their coup
That's what he was really trying to say.

In order to gain complete control over the populace and all of government, they need another horrific act of terrorism to activate the sheep and scare the dissenters. I've got a pretty good idea that we're going to get another 9/11.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:16 PM
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21. What do two Sh*t piles look like communing on a fervent hope for treason against us look like?
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 06:22 PM by ooglymoogly
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 06:58 PM
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22. We know who the enemy is...
its these crazy ass people of the rightwing.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 08:54 PM
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23. Faux Snooze is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They're right about
one thing: Another 9/11 could save the USA by getting the lemmings to wake up and throw out the neo-cons. I can always dream.
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Banned_Wagon Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:10 AM
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25. Let me re-phrase what the man said..
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 03:12 AM by Banned_Wagon
If another 9/11 is to happen in the USA, We know who will be behind it. We will know where to find the culprits. We will sentence them to death. And WE won't have to travel much further than Washington, DC to serve justice upon these murderous criminals. And when we do, let them remember the civil liberties they have taken from us, as we inflict the same treatment upon them. We will take their properties. We will seize their bank accounts to pay off our debts. We will hold them and their supporters indefinitely without a trial. We will use the tools that they use against us to claim our victory this time around. Then, and only then will America be United! LET's FUCKIN ROLL!
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Gonnuts Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:59 AM
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26. There are times ...
in my life that I wonder as a species how we made it this far - this is one of them.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 03:08 PM
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28. FOX intro: "or does this columnist actually have a valid point?"
"So, is this just a means to shock, or offend, or does this columnist actually have a valid point?"

Why is this FOX 'journo' so ambiguous?? Does Bykofsky have a valid point, yes he calls for attack upon the American population, so that the majority of 84% will join the fast shrinking minority of extremists, and be united behind Bush.
You need to be scared again, because the old attack don't work anymore.

Who are these guys? :shrug:
One may presume that the new attack mr. Bykofsky and FOX has in mind would be in the category 'the bigger the better', perhaps? After all, that makes sense when you think like this in the first place.

And if that attack don't work, another one. Bigger? Sure, why not?
This is the kind of thought that will end in the bunker. The people never suffice, they just aren't good enough. Blame the people, they can't fucking stand in line, won't do what you want, can't see the overwhelming NEED to comply. As the duct of opportunity narrows, and 'we, the people' that doesn't understand, doesn't have a clue, turns out to be more or less the whole population, so narrows the mind of groupthink among the few.

If you have your wallet stolen, a need develops to have your wallet stolen again. It's a remedy, so that your wallet won't be stolen in the future. So, if time and life eventually makes you forget that your wallet was stolen, it must be stolen promptly, to make sure that, well, you know, you don't slip on wallet security. And if that doesn't help, you need to be set up to have your wallet stolen at regular intervals, you hopeless individual.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 07:16 PM
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29. yeah, we were united.....in fear, shock and horror.........yep, that's the way to keep a country
together! What PUTZ!

Yes, we were united after 9/11......and then jr pissed it all away. If an attack united us again.....jr would just piss it away again. Hopefully we'd be united in our contempt for jr and company and for his removal.

And since when is "9/11, the good ol' days" ?!??!?!?!!!!!!

They both say another attack in "inevitable". So let me get this right. We've shredded the constitution and turned it into toilet paper so we would be safe.....yet an attack is inevitable.....so why the hell did we give up all our rights for something that is inevitable?

Thsi is just messed up on more levels than I can cover!
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