Scarborough bashes his own network, says Rand Paul shouldn’t have appeared on Maddow.

[kpete]

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JOE SCARBOROUGH: I will not mention any names, but I’ll just say one of the top conservative leaders in Washington, DC, not elected, but a real opinion-shaper, had two questions. First of all, how could he have been so stupid to have walked into this type of controversy? And secondly, this is part of a news story so I’m going to say it, what the hell was he doing on MSNBC? This isn’t an anti-MSNBC situation but you don’t find a whole lot of very liberal Democrats going on Fox News election night or the night after to do their victory lap. They’re wondering whether he’s ready for prime time.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/21/maddow-paul-scarborough/

[Gidney N Cloyd]

1. I think the mojo crew's been told to be careful when mentioning Keith or Rachel by name.

The unknown 'opinion-shaper' was probably very specific about not doing those two shows, not MSNBC in general, but I bet Joe's not supposed to stress that distinction.

[pinboy3niner]

7. We saw that in Mika's dustup with Joan Walsh

Mika thought there was extremist rhetoric on the left to match the violent tone of the right, but would not name names on-air (she told Walsh she'd name them OFF-air). My impression was that Mika had K.O. in mind, but another reference in that discussion indicated someone had been scolded before for directing criticism at one of MSNBC's own on-air personalities.

So I think you are right--there seems to be a clear taboo at MSNBC against any criticism of their on-air talent.

[border_town]

11. I want to like Mika but

The last time Dylan Ratigan was on, he gave her a complimentary peck on the cheek, she made such a face. Like she was disgusted with this gesture.

[pinboy3niner]

13. Welcome to DU, border_town!

I want to like her, too--and part of the time I do, until she does something like the Ratigan dis. I'd refrain from using the B-word, though Suggest you edit your post to delete it.

[border_town]

14. Thanks Pinboy!!

:)

[JDPriestly]

22. Mika has battered woman syndrome.

She has bought into the whole idea that she is inferior to Joe Scarborough.

Low self-esteem. She says relatively little on the show. Sometimes it is clear from her expresison that she questions what Scarborough is saying, but she does not articulate the reasons for her disagreement. I get the impression that Mika is a little frightened and insecure on the show.

I only watch snippets on the internet. I'm surprised that any women watch regularly. Can't stand the show myself.

[pinboy3niner]

24. She does seem to be intimidated by Scarborough

She challenges him at times, but not as forcefully as I would like. Of course, it's his show, and she is subordinate (and she was hand-picked by him for second chair).

I've also observed the way Mika constantly plays to the camera, often while Joe and guests are engaged in discussion. And something else: if she sides with a dem position one day, she seems to make it a point to side with the opposition the next. It strikes me as trying to "please all of the people . . . ." That seems consistent with your theory.

[snappyturtle]

2. I didn't hear Joe complaining a year ago that RP shouldn't annouce

his candidacy on Rachel's show. It's too bad that Joe is heard at all. imho

[rocktivity]

6. A Libertaritan wasn't a threat to the GOP then. That "top conservative leader" Joe mentions

probably applauded it. Let him hang out with gay liberals and make a total fool of himself with the mainstream conservative base!

:headbang:
rocktivity

[aquart]

16. Yet Rand made no announcements on Joe's show.

Is someone jealous?

[OHdem10]

3. It is wise to remember that Joe ended that spiel with the Prediction

that Rand Paul will win in Kentucky and Blumenthal will win
in Ct. Kentucky is Kentucky and Ct is Ct.

[rocktivity]

4. Joe has a talent for getting it wrong even when it gets it right

"...(H)ow could he have been so stupid to have walked into this type of controversy? And...what the hell was he doing on MSNBC?...(Y)ou don’t find a whole lot of very liberal Democrats going on Fox News...to do their victory lap. They’re wondering whether he’s ready for prime time."

I agree that it is now obvious that Rand's only qualification for political office is his pedigree. But I seriously doubt that Scarborough would be criticizing Rand's appearing on MSNBC if he'd appeared with him or Tweety!

:headbang:
rocktivity

[realitythink]

9. He was on Morning Shmoe that morning

Ayn Rand Paul was on the Cup O" Joe that very same day that he was on Rachel's show. Only difference was the crew kissed his ass.

[rocktivity]

12. WHAT??? If that's the case, Joe ought to be suspended, at the very least

My apologies for coming to the wrong conclusion, but why would ANYONE come to any other? That makes Joe's statement even MORE hypocritical and nonsensical. Keith Olbermann had BETTER say something about it now...he doesn't have to mention Joe by name...

:evilgrin:
rocktivity

[wtmusic]

5. Paul didn't "walk into" this type of controversy - he created it.

The truth is a bitch.

[rocktivity]

8. Keith Olbermann didn't say a word about Jon Stewart eviscerating Jim Cramer

as much as we wanted him to. Nor did he criticize Tweety's gaffes about http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/9/14418/63974">Hillary getting the sympathy vote for being cheated on, or forgetting about Obama being black for an hour. Will Keith defend Rachel's honor tonight? Stay tuned...

:headbang:
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[Radical Activist]

15. I missed Matthew's comment

but I talked to three women separately while canvassing in Ohio during the primary who told me they were voting for Hillary because the felt sorry for her. I'm sure it pisses some people off to hear it, but it was a factor.

[aquart]

17. Rachel needs defending? Hardly.

Big girl can take care of herself just fine.

[PatrynXX]

10. think Keith's gone up against his own network before too

It is his own opinion. lets not pretend this is fox where you can't utter your own opinion if it's against the network. (not talking about the Faux disagreement between arg and Glenn Beck.)

[Berry Cool]

25. Keith doesn't go up against his own network anymore; he's learned better.

He's a team player now; he won't criticize MSNBC people until they leave. Then, he says what he feels like saying.

He made a mistake once, sending a private email that eventually went public, saying he thought Rita Cosby was dumber than a suitcase of rocks. He caught shit for that one because he made the mistake of sending it to one of his haters, who of course forwarded it to Keith's then-boss.

Nah, he's learned his lesson. He didn't criticize Don Imus until he was fired, and he didn't criticize Tucker Carlson until he was out the door. And I'm sure he's been sorely tempted, considering that he's had to work with Pat Buchanan on election nights. The closest he ever came was during the Dem convention in '08 when Joey was saying something he thought was ridiculous and he said something like "Joe, get a shovel."

[valerief]

18. Uh, a hard-core conservative said this. Joe Dead Intern Scabby is a hard core conservative.

Who cares what he says?

[rasputin1952]

19. First things first, Rand Paul is an idiot...

whether he chooses MSNBC, CNN FOX or any other outlet to prove how stupid he is is irrelevant. I found it very appropriate that he chose a brick wall as his backdrop during TRMS...fit right in, or rather, it was as if a brick fell out of the wall and named itself Rand.

Scarborough is not an intellectual himself, and his record in the House is pretty poor, his record as a "host" is somewhat close to being as bad. He bolsters a lot of ridiculous RW claptrap, and thinks Teabaggers will be the salvation of democracy...lot of brains there.

Rand Paul is an idiot. Anyone who has listened to more than 2 sentences from this oaf realizes he is an idiot, and he has the charisma of a wet mop. McConnell thought this would be an easy win for his clown, even he never thought this dolt would get off the ground. That's 3 idiots right there...Paul, Scarborough, McConnell...the "brains" of the Republican Party.

I've said it before, I'll say it again...we are witnessing the dissolution of the GOP...I for one am more than happy to help it over the cliff...:D

[pinboy3niner]

20. When you're right, you're right, brother!

Apart from the pedophiles and others who've gotten caught in sex scandals, so many of these guys seemed to be made of Teflon. It's heartening that now, FINALLY, people are beginning to see that the emperor really DOES have no clothes. It's been incredibly unreal for so long that I want to pinch myself to be sure I'm not dreaming . . .

:hi:

[Enthusiast]

21. Joe Dead Intern Scabby is upset

that Rand betrayed his racist identity. Rand was supposed to keep that quiet until after the election in November.

[JDPriestly]

23. Joe, it's not hard to figure out why Rand Paul wanted to appear on

Rachel Maddow's show on MSNBC. Look at all the attention that appearance is getting Paul!

It's a smart move. TV is no longer about what happens on the show itself. It's about what happens on the internet after the show.

A lot of nutty right-wingers and extremists will rejoice in the idea that Rand Paul stood his ground and represented them on MSNBC. Rand Paul wants to profile himself as the hero of the extreme Right. What better way to do it?

I wonder what Michael Steele thinks about Rand Paul?

I wonder what other African-American, Hispanic and Asian Republicans think of him?

I remember a time when Asians had trouble getting a room in some motels in the South. It wasn't just a matter of discrimination against African-Americans. I don't remember hearing much about discrimination against Hispanics back then. Hispanics were a small minority pre-1980. I don't think people thought of them as being a different race or ethnicity.

I don't think that very many people want to return to that.

[ljm2002]

26. He's so full of shit...

...first of all, Dennis Kucinich has been noticeably willing to appear on Fox News.

Second of all, where was it again that Rand Paul announced his candidacy? Let's see now... oh yeah. MSNBC. The Rachel Maddow show, in fact!

And Joe doesn't think it's Mr. Paul's actual positions that make him "not ready for prime time". No, the fact that he would like to roll us back to 1963 in terms of civil rights, that's fine. But he showed bad judgment in allowing his views to be laid bare for all to see.

That is unforgivable and makes him not ready for prime time. Typical Republican reasoning.

[Tx4obama]

27. Chris Matthews said A LOT of nice things about Rachel Maddow tonight on his show. n/t

[ArizonaLiberal]

28. Go Maddowl! NT