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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:19 AM
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Dick Cheney '94: Invading Baghdad Would Create Quagmire
 
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:23 AM
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1. do you suppose the dems could use this video to their advantage? nope, not a chance nt
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:25 AM
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2. If Kerry/Edwards people had had it, and used it for the 2004 election, it could have helped
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 10:25 AM by brentspeak
Then again, the people running the show for the Kerry/Edwards campaign were largely a bunch of total incompetents.
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shayes51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 10:52 AM
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3. Where has this been all along?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:29 AM
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6. Where Was It In 2002"
When there was that whole march to war and all.

Oh, it wouldn't have mattered. If we'd brought it out we would have been accused of thinking with a "Pre 9-11 Mindset" "9-11 Changed Everything."

:eyes:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:14 AM
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4. I never thought I'd say this, but I agree 100% with Cheney
Everything he says there is spot on.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:28 AM
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5. So, Cheney deliberately took the US into a quagmire by going to Iraq!
Bush and Cheney knew this was a bad plan and intentionally put the US into a war they knew, we could not win!

However, they did find a worthwhile use for Iraq; Halliburon- could earn tens of millions of dollars and gain a perpetual client. The biggest pay-off would be control of Iraqi Oil!

We've been living their LIE, at the cost of thousands of American lives!
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:17 PM
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9. No, No, No,,, When it was Big Dog doing it, it would have been
a quagmire, but not when it is Dick the Slick ans the Bushiter. Everything is fine in Iraq, you just don't get it.:sarcasm:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:58 PM
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17. ....


who knew?
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Mugsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:52 AM
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7. Always heard the quote. Never saw the vid.
I first read the quote back in 2003, and always wondered if there was a video.

Why did it take so long for someone to dig it up???
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:55 AM
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8. Thanks for the link! I sent it to several FOX watching idiots and
asked them to "PLEASE explain THIS flip-flop" !!!!
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:32 PM
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10. Seems like I'd read the transcript of this some
time ago. He knows EXACTLY why we should not have invaded and occupied Iraq. But there was just too much money to be had for the oil companies and Halliburton. This is sick. He should be held accountable. To the Hague. He needs to be divested of every dime he's got!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:51 PM
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11. In 1994 Dick Cheney was formulating the policies to get back into power
....so as you can see what he said and ultimately what he forced onto the U.S. in 2003 were totally different. In 1994 Dick Cheney was already joining with the neoconservatives and putting together a plan that would become PNAC just three years later. This guy has always been a liar and will lie with his dying breath. Impeach this bastard now and get him out!
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 07:22 PM
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28. Exactly. The correct translation of this video is ...
"God, I hope Clinton doesn't make a deal with the multinational oil companies to send in the US military to secure the oil for the multinationals, because I want to be the guy who does that deal."
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:55 PM
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12. If anyone ever needed further proof that Iraq was a business decision
Here you have it by the one man who knew full well
why America's interests would not be served by such
an invasion.

Bad for America, good for Halliburton and Republican-
contributing business interests. Look who won out.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:03 PM
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13. We should have listened to this guy
He was 100% on target with every point. 13 years he described in considerable detail exactly where an invasion would leave us. He didn't get a single point wrong.

This guy gets it. Why couldn't we have just listened to him?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:15 PM
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23. Cheney should have listened to Cheney...
Oh crap! I think there is a disturbance in the time-space continuum!
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:18 PM
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14. unfortunately his puppet masters decided to move forward this time n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 01:18 PM by CGowen
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:34 PM
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15. Amazing
first time I have EVER heard him tell the truth
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:50 PM
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16. Brent Scowcroft
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 03:13 PM by Vattel
said that he can barely recognize his colleague from the Bush Sr. administration. My pet theory is that his brain was replaced by an AM radio: "The insurgency is in its last throes."; "Hogwash" (in reference to the bold suggestion that serious mistakes were made in the prosecution of the war); Cheney called Iraq the "geographic base of the terrorists who had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11;" etc. If we could just change the station to a traffic report or something, he could once again say useful things.
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Conscious Confucius Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:00 PM
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18. Forget Ron Paul, Cheney for President in '08
This guy is straight shooting.

Wait, can we now accuse Cheney of being a terrorist sympathizer? He is questioning the government's role in Iraq. That dirty commie, Cheney!
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:05 PM
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19. FLIP FLOP......n/t
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ocd liberal Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:21 PM
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20. no kidding
Hey, I was going to say that!
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 05:03 PM
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21. We think alike!
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 05:32 PM
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22. How do you rob a large country and several smaller countries
of their resources...duh...create a quagmire a fog of war where astronomical sums of money and resources are being transferred without much bookkeeping....and gee that is exactly what happened.

What is this the umpteenth smoking gun and the 2nd rubber stamp congress?...The only way this is going to end is a massive Mahatma style of uprising.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:37 PM
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24. We should send this to Keith Olbermann.....
I bet he would show it and do a "Special Comment". That would be awesome. He is the only one in the media that would actually show it.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 07:02 PM
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25. Of course think about what Cheney was doing between then and 2000...
And his reversal makes more sense.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 07:04 PM
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26. So they DO know better! But money beats common sense, I guess...
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 07:10 PM
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27. I liked the other video also
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 11:47 PM
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29. Let's see how far the "liberal" media runs with this.
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blayne Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:50 AM
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30. Thanks for the video clip;
I just added it to my myspace page. Just trying to spread the good word.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:09 AM
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31. YES, use it and PASS it on!!
Research and you'll find TONS of evidence that Bush/Cheney planned to invade Iraq PRIOR to coming into office in 2000 if they could find a reason for doing so. Why? 1) To avenge Bush #1. 2) To secure and control Iraq's oil reserves. 3) To carry out the Neo-Con ideology of making history and a legacy for themselves by setting up a
quasi-democracy in the Middle East which they think would domino across the region (and then they could really cash in on the oil). VERY FOOLISH AND ILL-CONCEIVED!! Yes everyone, email the link to this video (as I have already done) to everyone on your email personal email lists and to every Democrat and Democratic campaign that you can. We should definitely use it because we have to continually remind EVERYONE how badly we need MAJOR change from Bush/Cheney in '08, and we have to use every single tiny piece of ammo we can find to do this. The ReThuglican Prez candidates are Bush/Cheney lite at the very best and fraternal twins at worst. We must remind Americans of this each and every moment from now until election day. We need to attack these bastards bigitime this time and demoralize them with the idea that a Democracrat (and yes, EVEN HILLARY, if she is nominated) WILL defeat the ReThuglican nominee!
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:36 PM
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32. Simply incredible.
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