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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:28 PM
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Carville's Oil Outburst
 
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"Man you got to get down here and take control of this, put somebody in charge of this thing and get this thing moving, WE ARE ABOUT TO DIE DOWN HERE!"
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:35 PM
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1. He's right. nt
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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:40 PM
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2. I am glad he said it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 12:52 PM
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3. The points he makes are right on - there's so much more a president can do. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:01 PM
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4. They don't call him the Ragin' Cajun for nothing. n/t
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:11 PM
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5. I disagree with Obama in a lot of issues, but Mr. Carville is not one to talk
he is another hack trying to have it both ways: pretend he has some credibility, while sleeping with the enemy... literally in Carville's case.

An attention whore is right in the same sense a stopped watch is the most energy efficient method to tell time twice a day.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:51 PM
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14. I'm not a fan of Carville
But he has personal (LSU roots) interest in this and I believe his concern is genuine -
His suggestions are sensible and informed by his political experience- Like Papantonio he mentions the oil tankers - there are so many resources that the President could call upon - and all we get seems to be one excuse after another - to name just three that I've heard most often

I'm sure there are more

This has happened before and we didn't know
The Republicans let this happen
We're letting BP handle this

TOTAL CRAP!!!

Like Firedoglake said - the Administration is in denial and whether real or imagined appears out of touch - with so many Americans who either empathize with the ecological or cultural catastrophe in the making
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:31 PM
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26. A person who sleeps with a close advisor of Cheney, whose policies led to this disaster should STFU
He may have his roots in Louisiana, and all that. But his bread is buttered on a different side. I don't care what he has to say, actions speak louder than words to me. He is a hypocrite of the maximum magnitude.

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:43 PM
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19. Carville can say any thing he wants. He lives in Louisiana. You have
to experience one of these to understand that rage. He is right.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:26 PM
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25. Saying whatever one wants and validation are two very different things.
Edited on Wed May-26-10 07:26 PM by liberation
Mr. Carville has selective rage, and as such... I don't give a rat's ass about whatever he says, because he will always reek of opportunism.

That being said, no one is denying his right to free speech. I just don't have to take him seriously, and it is not my fault... his track record is.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 10:58 PM
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30. given that he kept clinton from screwing up and not getting the
presidency, I put a bit of emphasis on his ability to tell someone when the house is burning down and how to put it out.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:15 PM
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6. I'm not a fan of Carville's at all,
but on this subject, he's right.
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:54 PM
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11. I despise James Carville and nothing pisses me off more than agreeing with him,
but he is absolutely right about this in every way. Damn it.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:02 PM
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22. +1.nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:15 PM
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7. ANY WAY THEY TRY TO SLICE OR DICE IT, THIS CATASTROPHE IS BUSH AND CHENEY'S DOINGS!!!
Edited on Wed May-26-10 01:17 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:18 PM
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9. Lon, or Jr?
Edited on Wed May-26-10 01:38 PM by jobycom


Edit: Darn, you edited it. :) Now my post makes no sense.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:47 PM
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10. LOL sorry..Chaney's was "spell check's doings.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:44 PM
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20. until now. they caused it but its now obama's baby and he better
do better than this. immediately. carville is right.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:17 PM
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8. Hey James - why don't you also ask your wife
about Cheney's role in this catastrophe.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:22 PM
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12. Is he speaking for the DLC now, or is he personally involved. What's the DLC think? nm
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 02:41 PM
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13. problem started with Gibbs on Sunday saying 'we're doing everything humanly possible' which is

never a true statement because there is always something more that can be done. Always. That is why there are times you can say it about someone else's efforts to be supportive, but never about your own efforts because it comes across as haughty.

As for a suggestion on one simple thing that could be done?

Put some of these people, the Dowds, the Carvilles, the Mary Matalins (yes, her too) IN the solution loop - get them involved directly FOR the White House because THEY are there, they have a real stake that it gets handled properly, and frankly, they are going to take more effort to get things accomplished than perhaps someone who doesn't live in the area and have a personal stake in it. They'll work the extra hour, fill in the extra forms, make the extra calls that gets the clean up further along.

Admitting you have an unfathomable disaster is the first part of taking steps to address it.

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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:43 PM
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18. Good points
There are a whole range of experts that could be brought to bare - I thought Carville's mentioning Woods Hole (among others) was a great idea.

There are some people who lack imagination - while I believe that no one can be all things to all people - any president should have a staff with some foresight or imagination.

Whoever Obama is listening to on this should be fired.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:04 PM
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15. Look, DUers. (including James Carville).
Obama has two huge crises on his hands right now. The BP spill is one. The Korean conflict is another.

We aren't hearing or thinking much about what is going on in Korea, but it is one huge, scary, scary mess.

And the Republicans are practically in a state of sedition, not because of anything that Obama has done that they don't like. Obama has continued business a la Bush on practically every important issue. The Republicans are mad simply because their goal of setting up a Republican-run theocracy has met set-backs on a lot of fronts.

The BP crisis is absolutely horrible. I lived in Mobile for years. Emotionally, this just tears me up. I feel so bad.

But I realize that Obama can't do anything magic to fix the Gulf. Scientists and engineers and geologists have to set the policy in the Gulf. Obama can only authorize what the law and those experts recommend.

But Korea is Obama's responsibility. He and Hillary Clinton have the primary responsibility for what we do there. And it is potentially just as bad a situation as the Gulf.

So, cut Obama a little slack. Please. Please. Right now he needs it.

And I have been critical of Obama's giving in to the Republicans -- one of the most critical on DU. But right now, I think he is handling things as well as any president could. He is only human after all.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:08 PM
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16. I will keep that in my head, thanks

but I do understand folks venting, which is good as well

Just as long as the big picture of the world isn't far off in their minds as well as you mention. Thanks.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 05:37 PM
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23. His administration is FOLLOWING THE LAW. CERCLA
Amis are all about chest-thumping and have no time for weenie commissions. Jefferson Parish "commandeered" 40 BP boats the other day in a macho show of "taking charge." Too bad they're on record having REFUSED federal assistance. That story got scrubbed STAT! Chess players know about lining up ducks. Thank you so much for your contributions to the discussions. :yourock::hi:

Remember that old video game "Asteroids?" ;-)
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:19 PM
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17. I'm sorry.
Carville is, and always has been, a hack and an ass. The idea that he could be even sincere with an angle is beyond my ability to credit. I don't see how he could even listen to one sentence from his wife's mouth, let alone kiss it. This is all a game to him, always has been. Now his home state is in dire straits. That's too bad, but the real cause of the disaster lies closer to home - right next to him, figuratively. His wife's former boss was, after all, Dick Cheney.

If I could for a second imagine that he's gone off on her or her old boss like he's going off on Obama, I might feel a modicum of sympathy. But he's doing this publicly, without acknowledging the obvious conflict with reality that he is living.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 04:45 PM
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21. all of that is beside the point. he's right. Obama is going to live or
die on this one. welcome to the new katrina.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 06:09 PM
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24. Carville's wife is a red herring
and has nothing to do with this Armageddon in the Gulf. Bush and Cheney certainly represented the interests of the oil industry but Obama is in the top ten all-time recipients of largess from the oil and gas industry. Furthermore, his administration is pushing off-shore drilling and other toxic forms of energy such as nuclear power that could have equally disasterous results.

True that Carville has long been a DLC hack not some out in left field progressive - therefore Obama should pay all the closer attention to the criticism coming from his own side of the aisle. If Carville can say this there are exponentially more people from within and outside Obama's party that are thinking it.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 07:34 PM
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27. No it is not a red herring, because Matalin was an adviser to Cheney.
And Cheney was responsible for a lot of the oil prospecting deregulation that led to this disaster.

Pretending that we can ignore Carville's better half, while he completely ignores his massive conflict of interests, reeks to me of attempting to have it both ways.


Even if I agree with the gist of what this buffoon is saying, I find his hypocrisy suffocating to be honest.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:51 AM
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31. My home state is in dire straits too
Are you going to tell me "too bad" as well. Say what you want about the messenger, the message is dead fucking on!
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:05 PM
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28. "Very seldom do you get something that's really good politics..."
"his approval ratings should be up seven points right now"

He's right, of course, but to say it. So....yuck. I can see those comments coming back to bite him.
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 09:10 PM
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29. Love his shopping list of what Obama can/should do though...n/t
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